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01-13-2022, 04:32 PM
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Which would you advise your son?
Your son comes to you for career advice. There are two options:
Option 1
-study hard in high school
-get good grades to get into top university
-do 5 year combined degree in law, econ or finance (or some combo)
-intern or get an entry level job in the field while studying
-graduate after 5 years and go into professional year/mandatory work experience
-use dadβs contacts to get into mid-tier law firm or top-tier management consulting firm
-enter workforce around 25 years old start paying pay student loans
-hopefully be on track for equity partner by around 40 years old
option 2
-quit school at 16 years old
-start apprenticeship in trade
-finish apprenticeship at 19 or so
-get building license
-do a few small projects
-get awarded fat construction contracts from dadβs property development company
-retire as a multi-millionaire by age 30
Please give reasons for which option you select
Option 1
-study hard in high school
-get good grades to get into top university
-do 5 year combined degree in law, econ or finance (or some combo)
-intern or get an entry level job in the field while studying
-graduate after 5 years and go into professional year/mandatory work experience
-use dadβs contacts to get into mid-tier law firm or top-tier management consulting firm
-enter workforce around 25 years old start paying pay student loans
-hopefully be on track for equity partner by around 40 years old
option 2
-quit school at 16 years old
-start apprenticeship in trade
-finish apprenticeship at 19 or so
-get building license
-do a few small projects
-get awarded fat construction contracts from dadβs property development company
-retire as a multi-millionaire by age 30
Please give reasons for which option you select
01-13-2022, 04:36 PM
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not reading that
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01-13-2022, 04:37 PM
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01-13-2022, 04:40 PM
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Doesn't matter, both are equally unlikely. Odds are he won't make it into a top tier university. Odds also are if he drops out, he will be tradie trash and drink alot of monsters, smoke alot and have a kid by his early 20s.
01-13-2022, 04:42 PM
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Your options are so far fetched.. Who says the dad has those connections... and why quit school at 16? no one is gonna whether if even legal or illegally. going to give an apprenticeship to a 16 year old high school drop out.. your options are asinine.
I'd tell my son whatever it is you decide to do. put your all into it.. whether it be to continue to go to school or go to a trade school and pick up a trade...
I'd tell my son whatever it is you decide to do. put your all into it.. whether it be to continue to go to school or go to a trade school and pick up a trade...
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01-13-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By p7nk⏩
Can legally drop out after year 10 as long as you go into some other form of education (I.e apprenticeship)Your options are so far fetched.. Who says the dad has those connections... and why quit school at 16? no one is gonna whether if even legal or illegally. going to give an apprenticeship to a 16 year old high school drop out.. your options are asinine.
I'd tell my son whatever it is you decide to do. put your all into it.. whether it be to continue to go to school or go to a trade school and pick up a trade...
I'd tell my son whatever it is you decide to do. put your all into it.. whether it be to continue to go to school or go to a trade school and pick up a trade...
You canonlyget an apprenticeship between 16-18 years of age because after that they have to start paying adult wage
Why are the options far fetched?
01-13-2022, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Spazzzzy⏩
Had not looked at it from that angle. Repped.Option 1 without a doubt.
More educated, more transferable skills, socialising with people who want to do better in life, would have seen where a lot of people go wrong in life before having access to money, women don't want men below them and education is a component in that, basically no women don't have a bachelors these days, longer life-expectancy, body not ruined, not a tradie.
You can do Option 1 and still do labouring to get through uni. Having worked on jobsites even the senior guys are usually retards srs. Walk with the lame, develop a limp as they say. Everyone on the jobsite was basically a scumbag with high amounts of credit card debt, ate fast food every meal, went home and drank 4-6 long necks every day, smoked, could barely read or write, $400-800/day was all wasted. It's good to see that lifestyle in small doses so you know what you don't want to be.
Also know a lot of parents who thought the same as you LMFAO. It never works out because the kids do what they want to do which is usually chasing tail, getting drunk and drugs, buying a 10yo V8 commodore and spend more money doing it up than if they bought new, getting covered in head to toe with tattoos because that's what the people they associate with do...etc
Most of where you end up in life is through your socialisation. If your peers work hard and are law abiding, chances are you will be too. If your peers are alcoholic, smoking, monster drinking and meat pie eating scumbags, chances are you will be too.
More educated, more transferable skills, socialising with people who want to do better in life, would have seen where a lot of people go wrong in life before having access to money, women don't want men below them and education is a component in that, basically no women don't have a bachelors these days, longer life-expectancy, body not ruined, not a tradie.
You can do Option 1 and still do labouring to get through uni. Having worked on jobsites even the senior guys are usually retards srs. Walk with the lame, develop a limp as they say. Everyone on the jobsite was basically a scumbag with high amounts of credit card debt, ate fast food every meal, went home and drank 4-6 long necks every day, smoked, could barely read or write, $400-800/day was all wasted. It's good to see that lifestyle in small doses so you know what you don't want to be.
Also know a lot of parents who thought the same as you LMFAO. It never works out because the kids do what they want to do which is usually chasing tail, getting drunk and drugs, buying a 10yo V8 commodore and spend more money doing it up than if they bought new, getting covered in head to toe with tattoos because that's what the people they associate with do...etc
Most of where you end up in life is through your socialisation. If your peers work hard and are law abiding, chances are you will be too. If your peers are alcoholic, smoking, monster drinking and meat pie eating scumbags, chances are you will be too.
01-13-2022, 04:54 PM
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Depends on the kid.
- likes school work, not into much physical activity: option 1
- doesn't care for school work, prefers doing stuff to sitting: option 2
Waste of time to tell a kid that doesn't enjoy school to go spend a lot more time in school.
And, if it were the US/not Oz, then I would tend more towards option 2 anyway because of how crazy school debt would probably be and because I've heard too many times that law is no bueno as a career in the US now.
Plus with option 2 by starting early he has time to fail at something and still start over and maybe make it.
- likes school work, not into much physical activity: option 1
- doesn't care for school work, prefers doing stuff to sitting: option 2
Waste of time to tell a kid that doesn't enjoy school to go spend a lot more time in school.
And, if it were the US/not Oz, then I would tend more towards option 2 anyway because of how crazy school debt would probably be and because I've heard too many times that law is no bueno as a career in the US now.
Plus with option 2 by starting early he has time to fail at something and still start over and maybe make it.
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01-13-2022, 04:55 PM
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I didn't pick either. I want to provide advice to my kid only when asked. I'll inform him about his options, but I want him/her to pick their direction. Kids are inclined to try to please their parents I don't want them picking anything because they think I want them to do it.
01-13-2022, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Also a good point. Iβm all for trying new things but at $20k+ per semester that can get very expensive very quickly in an academic contextDepends on the kid.
- likes school work, not into much physical activity: option 1
- doesn't care for school work, prefers doing stuff to sitting: option 2
Waste of time to tell a kid that doesn't enjoy school to go spend a lot more time in school.
And, if it were the US/not Oz, then I would tend more towards option 2 anyway because of how crazy school debt would probably be and because I've heard too many times that law is no bueno as a career in the US now.
Plus with option 2 by starting early he has time to fail at something and still start over and maybe make it.
- likes school work, not into much physical activity: option 1
- doesn't care for school work, prefers doing stuff to sitting: option 2
Waste of time to tell a kid that doesn't enjoy school to go spend a lot more time in school.
And, if it were the US/not Oz, then I would tend more towards option 2 anyway because of how crazy school debt would probably be and because I've heard too many times that law is no bueno as a career in the US now.
Plus with option 2 by starting early he has time to fail at something and still start over and maybe make it.
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01-13-2022, 04:58 PM
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pretty ****gy that dad's connections are involved in both, can't your kid stand on his own?
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You have to base this on his interests and abilities. This answer is different. I got a nephew who is handy and likes being active and has ADD so I told him he should learn a trade rather going heavy in debt for college, he simply wonβt be some Chad finance guy or doctor etc. you can make a good life with skilled trade.
But for someone with book smarts and drive I would absolutely say go for college and advanced degrees.
But for someone with book smarts and drive I would absolutely say go for college and advanced degrees.
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01-13-2022, 04:59 PM
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Option 1
Option 2 is contingent on a sh!t ton of capital necessary to float labor and material to make said millions to retire.
Option 1 gives many more pathways to other jobs, even though misc entrepreneurs will say it's 9-5 slavery. If you're smart you can go to JC for two years to avoid those loans too.
And LOL at both options thinking anyone on the misc has a father.
Option 2 is contingent on a sh!t ton of capital necessary to float labor and material to make said millions to retire.
Option 1 gives many more pathways to other jobs, even though misc entrepreneurs will say it's 9-5 slavery. If you're smart you can go to JC for two years to avoid those loans too.
And LOL at both options thinking anyone on the misc has a father.
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01-13-2022, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Depends on your son, Success can be achieved either way.Your son comes to you for career advice. There are two options:
Option 1
-study hard in high school
-get good grades to get into top university
-do 5 year combined degree in law, econ or finance (or some combo)
-intern or get an entry level job in the field while studying
-graduate after 5 years and go into professional year/mandatory work experience
-use dadβs contacts to get into mid-tier law firm or top-tier management consulting firm
-enter workforce around 25 years old start paying pay student loans
-hopefully be on track for equity partner by around 40 years old
option 2
-quit school at 16 years old
-start apprenticeship in trade
-finish apprenticeship at 19 or so
-get building license
-do a few small projects
-get awarded fat construction contracts from dadβs property development company
-retire as a multi-millionaire by age 30
Please give reasons for which option you select
Option 1
-study hard in high school
-get good grades to get into top university
-do 5 year combined degree in law, econ or finance (or some combo)
-intern or get an entry level job in the field while studying
-graduate after 5 years and go into professional year/mandatory work experience
-use dadβs contacts to get into mid-tier law firm or top-tier management consulting firm
-enter workforce around 25 years old start paying pay student loans
-hopefully be on track for equity partner by around 40 years old
option 2
-quit school at 16 years old
-start apprenticeship in trade
-finish apprenticeship at 19 or so
-get building license
-do a few small projects
-get awarded fat construction contracts from dadβs property development company
-retire as a multi-millionaire by age 30
Please give reasons for which option you select
For every consultant or Lawyer that MOGmaxxxes there are plenty that struggle
For every tradie there are some people who don't find it fulfilling for whatever reason.
Personally, I would choose learning a trade just because it is less effort and Compounds sooner therefore you will probably do better then most lawyers or Consultants since you'll have had more time to save up and Have been able to gain a good bit of experience. The only exception is that as a tradie you would have to start your own business since that is were the money is but if you just wanted an easy job then be a lawyer consultant and Maybe there is still some decent upside even if it takes longer and Costs more.
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In the two scenarios you offered, easily option 2
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01-13-2022, 05:05 PM
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Learn both a trade and STEM so he can have something to fall back on, in case the other doesn't work out.
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Not everyone enjoys school. I'm all for learning a trade. If they start that young they can learn and excel in more than 1 trade if they wanted to. In the end it's their decision.
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
Well probably the bigger barrier is the money to acquire the land - hence the kid would need to do a few projects first up to acquire the capital - but fair point.Option 1
Option 2 is contingent on a sh!t ton of capital necessary to float labor and material to make said millions to retire.
Option 1 gives many more pathways to other jobs, even though misc entrepreneurs will say it's 9-5 slavery. If you're smart you can go to JC for two years to avoid those loans too.
And LOL at both options thinking anyone on the misc has a father.
Option 2 is contingent on a sh!t ton of capital necessary to float labor and material to make said millions to retire.
Option 1 gives many more pathways to other jobs, even though misc entrepreneurs will say it's 9-5 slavery. If you're smart you can go to JC for two years to avoid those loans too.
And LOL at both options thinking anyone on the misc has a father.
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If they know their passion and can have a career in that, follow it.
If not, go to university to get a degree that gives you an 8-5 job so you have your evenings and weekends free as it's the more sustainable lifestyle for most people.
If not, go to university to get a degree that gives you an 8-5 job so you have your evenings and weekends free as it's the more sustainable lifestyle for most people.
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Would just text him "lol @ tradies, srs"
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Originally Posted By infinityplus1⏩
Testi pleaseWould just text him "lol @ tradies, srs"
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Even without going with your extreme examples, ****ing lol @ going to school for a million years and graduating with so much debt you won't have it paid back until your 40s. Generic university degrees are pretty much useless nowadays.
Plus you can learn whatever you want online in a shorter time for much cheaper.
Plus you can learn whatever you want online in a shorter time for much cheaper.
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Originally Posted By wolfofmarkcity⏩
What parts are extremeEven without going with yourextreme examples, ****ing lol @ going to school for a million years and graduating with so much debt you won't have it paid back until your 40s. Generic university degrees are pretty much useless nowadays.
Plus you can learn whatever you want online in a shorter time for much cheaper.
Plus you can learn whatever you want online in a shorter time for much cheaper.
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Get both
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01-13-2022, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By skinnyfat88⏩
basically thisIf they know their passion and can have a career in that, follow it.
If not, go to university to get a degree that gives you an 8-5 job so you have your evenings and weekends free as it's the more sustainable lifestyle for most people.
If not, go to university to get a degree that gives you an 8-5 job so you have your evenings and weekends free as it's the more sustainable lifestyle for most people.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
HrmGet both
Major in construction engineering
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