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post 1654891463 01-24-2022, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
What do Brady and Gronk have to do with this picture
Mahomes repeatedly bailed his defense out, usually with Brady his defense bails him out. I take that into account. Nonetheless, he's the greatest game-managing system quarterback of all time though, no doubt. Can't take his accomplishments away.
Originally Posted By ZBlacktt⏩
One day it will register to those that refuse to see.Nobody in the history of this sport is on Mahomes level. Hosting every AFC Championship game in your career. Looking for a 3rd straight Superbowl in 4 years. Remember 2018 Dee Ford lined up Offside. As Brady just threw a game ending 3rd INT. Otherwise Mahomes Superbowl every year of his career.... aside from all the other NFL Records Mahomes has smash in his very young career. He is on 10x the pace at longevity records. He can't make up 21 years when he's only 26.

As for TE, not even remotely close obviously.
Facts. Anyone being honest with themselves can see the talent.

Josh Allen elevated himself as well. He's even better than I thought and I already considered him a top 5 QB.
9 TDs 0 INTs in 2 playoff games lmfao!
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post 1654891553 01-24-2022, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
imo, if antonio brown didn't go crazy again bucs would have been in the NFC Championship game
Brady shouldn’t have choked and lost a game where his defense got him 4 turnovers
and that’s the bottom line
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Most career postseason games with passer rating of 120 or higher [minimum 20 pass attempts]

5 … Tom Brady
5 … Joe Montana
5 … Pat Mahomes

4 … Peyton Manning
4 … Aaron Rodgers
3 … Troy Aikman
3 … Brett Favre
3 … Kurt Warner
3 … Josh Allen
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Originally Posted By beer
Brady shouldn’t have choked and lost a game where his defense got him 4 turnovers
His defense also went full potato time after time.

If his Defense played as good as the Packers did though, it would have been a cake walk.

laughed my ass off when they let the best receiver in the entire league just stroll right behind everybody.
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Originally Posted By ZBlacktt⏩
One day it will register to those that refuse to see. Nobody in the history of this sport is on Mahomes level. Hosting every AFC Championship game in your career. Looking for a 3rd straight Superbowl in 4 years. Remember 2018 Dee Ford lined up Offside. As Brady just threw a game ending 3rd INT. Otherwise Mahomes Superbowl every year of his career.... aside from all the other NFL Records Mahomes has smash in his very young career. He is on 10x the pace at longevity records. He can't make up 21 years when he's only 26.

As for TE, not even remotely close obviously.
And to think I rooted for the chefs since I thought there fans were less annoying

Mahomes is extremely gifted, and blessed to have started his career with a literal arsenal of weapons. Don’t forget his slump for over half this season.
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Originally Posted By thigoonar⏩
Mahomes repeatedly bailed his defense out, usually with Brady his defense bails him out. I take that into account. Nonetheless, he's the greatest game-managing system quarterback of all time though, no doubt. Can't take his accomplishments away. Also let’s note the fact that has already been statically proven that he’s had luck and field position well above any other QB in the NFL. As we know he has a keenness for bending the rules with deflategate and spygate. It’s impossible to know what tactics he’s using undetectably to get a competing advantage but history has proven its gone on and it’s only stopped if he’s caught. I’d suspect that’s still going on in ways we don’t know




Facts. Anyone being honest with themselves can see the talent.

Josh Allen elevated himself as well. He's even better than I thought and I already considered him a top 5 QB.
9 TDs 0 INTs in 2 playoff games lmfao!
This I actually agree with, I never claimed Brady wasn’t an elite game manager who is in the same class as Alex Smith. The guy isn’t tooled to put a team on his back and single handedly win a game and never has in his career. He is prime disturbing a ball 5-15 yards up the field while minimizing mistakes and maintaining a lead. Plenty of college QBs do it but with the system Belichick laid the foundation was the first to continue college like spread offense success for Brady to put up insane numbers in the pros.
post 1654895393 01-24-2022, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Azrairc⏩
This I actually agree with, I never claimed Brady wasn’t an elite game manager who is in the same class as Alex Smith. The guy isn’t tooled to put a team on his back and single handedly win a game and never has in his career. He is prime disturbing a ball 5-15 yards up the field while minimizing mistakes and maintaining a lead. Plenty of college QBs do it but with the system Belichick laid the foundation was the first to continue college like spread offense success for Brady to put up insane numbers in the pros.
Your cope level Is over 9000.

Dude is among the league leaders in air yards.

At 44.

Stay mad
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Originally Posted By Azrairc⏩
This I actually agree with, I never claimed Brady wasn’t an elite game manager who is in the same class as Alex Smith. The guy isn’t tooled to put a team on his back and single handedly win a game and never has in his career. He is prime disturbing a ball 5-15 yards up the field while minimizing mistakes and maintaining a lead. Plenty of college QBs do it but with the system Belichick laid the foundation was the first to continue college like spread offense success for Brady to put up insane numbers in the pros.
What team do you root for

That should explain some of this retarded butthurt logic
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
What team do you root for

That should explain some of this retarded butthurt logic
WFT... Also something else is off...
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Just checked the stats cringing at the Bills defense. Average yards allowed all year per game: 272

Last night: 410. No wonder they folded towards the end.

Also zero turnovers. KC didn't get any either, but still. Also, if Allen wasn't rushing the Bills only got 40 yards on the ground.
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in to see the cope from Brady and Rodgers fans.

Both played like chit this weekend and did not get the job done.

Bills vs. Chiefs had to be one of the best games of the last decade, if not more. Josh Allen was a machine in that game. It honestly sucks one of the teams had to lose.
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post 1654896823 01-24-2022, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
in to see the cope from Brady and Rodgers fans.

Both played like chit yesterday and did not get the job done.

Bills vs. Chiefs had to be one of the best games of the last decade, if not more. Josh Allen was a machine in that game. It honestly sucks one of the teams had to lose.
Rodgers didn't play yesterday.

Brady got swarmed all game.

Bills have no run game or Pass D
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Rodgers didn't play yesterday.

Brady got swarmed all game.

Bills have no run game or Pass D
Fixed.

Yes Brady was pressured all day, but when you are the GOAT, you are expected to carry your team, which he almost did in the 4th quarter. Either way he did not play well for 3 quarters, and was gifted 4 fumbles.

Same thing for Rodgers, your defense holds the opponent to 13 points and you can't win. Not very MVP like.

There no excuses for either. They just did not get the job done.
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post 1654897323 01-24-2022, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Fixed.

Yes Brady was pressured all day, but when you are the GOAT, you are expected to carry your team, which he almost did in the 4th quarter. Either way he did not play well for 3 quarters, and was gifted 4 fumbles.

Same thing for Rodgers, your defense holds the opponent to 13 points and you can't win. Not very MVP like.

There no excuses for either. They just did not get the job done.
Being down an All Pro tackle when facing the best dline in fb has an impact. Also Missing Godwin and AB hurt.

You're just a butthurt Cowboys fan
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Being down an All Pro tackle when facing the best dline in fb has an impact. Also Missing Godwin and AB hurt.

You're just a butthurt Cowboys fan
Butthurt? I'm being objective. I like Tom Brady, and I know he is the GOAT. Injuries are part of football. Yes they have an impact, but it does not change that Brady did not play well for a majority of that game.

Also - I bash my team (Cowboys) more than anyone and I recognize when they play like chit.....which is almost all the time against anyone over .500.
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post 1654897823 01-24-2022, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Butthurt? I'm being objective. I like Tom Brady, and I know he is the GOAT. Injuries are part of football. Yes they have an impact, but it does not change that Brady did not play well for a majority of that game.

Also - I bash my team (Cowboys) more than anyone and I recognize when they play like chit.....which is almost all the time against anyone over .500.
There's no excuse for Rodgers. This happens every year.
He's done in GB
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
There's no excuse for Rodgers. This happens every year.
He's done in GB
I agree with that. On a large scale Brady can have first round exits for the next 3 years and it doesn't affect his legacy. 7 rings is untouchable.

Rodgers is out of GB and that lack of playoff success will be a stain on his career. We will see what happens with his next team.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Josh Allen was a machine in that game. It honestly sucks one of the teams had to lose.
Allen should retire or demand a trade. He isnt going to win anything for Buffalo, because they are cursed. he did everything a human being can do to win a game and lost it all in 13 seconds. He deserves better.


Personally, I cant go on from this. I cant go on knowing they were 13 seconds away from going to the super bowl. I have to believe that the bills would have blown it next weeks somehow. Maybe allen gets hurt early in the game. Maybe every gets rona and cant play. Or chase just goes off.

But I can not go on believing everything was 13 seconds away
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Predictions for AFC Championship?

51-48...?
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Jesus Bills defense blew it half a dozen times. #1 rated all season and can't stop them twice when the game is on the line.
pathetic
Originally Posted By MYOFIBRAH⏩
i have a real prob w OT rules if the chiefs score a TD here. this game doesn’t deserve that
even if the Bills would have pulled it out, i dont see how the OT rules as they are now cant be changed to each team having one possession and on the third score having to go for 2 points.
Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Bills defense blew it. Can't believe how bad they played all game. Allen has to be livid with the D.
will never understand how you give up 44 yards at the end of reg in 13 fukcing seconds
Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag⏩
Frazier cost himself a potential HC job. Hopefully daboll leaves
good.
Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Didn’t read any of that

Let’s go Cinci!!
yup.
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Let him get past bid dick burrow before we declare it
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Allen should retire or demand a trade. He isnt going to win anything for Buffalo, because they are cursed. he did everything a human being can do to win a game and lost it all in 13 seconds. He deserves better.

Personally, I cant go on from this. I cant go on knowing they were 13 seconds away from going to the super bowl. I have to believe that the bills would have blown it next weeks somehow. Maybe allen gets hurt early in the game. Maybe every gets rona and cant play. Or chase just goes off.

But I can not go on believing everything was 13 seconds away
couldnt have said it better. am in disbelief.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Allen should retire or demand a trade. He isnt going to win anything for Buffalo, because they are cursed. he did everything a human being can do to win a game and lost it all in 13 seconds. He deserves better.


Personally, I cant go on from this. I cant go on knowing they were 13 seconds away from going to the super bowl. I have to believe that the bills would have blown it next weeks somehow. Maybe allen gets hurt early in the game. Maybe every gets rona and cant play. Or chase just goes off.

But I can not go on believing everything was 13 seconds away
I really don't blame you. That was one of the worst ways to lose a game I've ever seen. They really had won that game twice in the last two minutes if the D could just make a stop.

Allen had to be gutted. He gave 130% in that game.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
I really don't blame you. That was one of the worst ways to lose a game I've ever seen. They really had won that game twice in the last two minutes if the D could just make a stop.

Allen had to be gutted. He gave 130% in that game.
All of this proves putting up a bunch of stats only matters when a player needs a new contract
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Allen should retire or demand a trade. He isnt going to win anything for Buffalo, because they are cursed. he did everything a human being can do to win a game and lost it all in 13 seconds. He deserves better.


Personally, I cant go on from this. I cant go on knowing they were 13 seconds away from going to the super bowl. I have to believe that the bills would have blown it next weeks somehow. Maybe allen gets hurt early in the game. Maybe every gets rona and cant play. Or chase just goes off.

But I can not go on believing everything was 13 seconds away
Even as a lifetime Bills fan I have to say I agree with this. How do you sit there on a bench and watch a guy move the ball 45 yards in 13 seconds. Right after you scored a touchdown with a minute left to play and saved the day. Jesus. He's gotta be sick to his stomach today. This was the year for the Bills to win and the defense blew it for them when it mattered the most. There's a dozen teams who would welcome him with open arms, not the least of which is Green Bay or Pittsburgh.

And it had nothing to do with Mahomes being brilliant (although he was really good). So many times they missed tackles that could have changed the game completely. Zero pressure on Mahomes and then when they got him out of the pocket they couldn't tackle him. Just terrible.
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Josh Allen won that game twice. The more I think about it the crazier it gets.

Letting tyreek burn your entire D. The one guy that can take the top off a defense.

Not squibbing or pooching it.

Then letting them go like 40 plus yards in 2 plays. And rushing 4 when Mahomes needs to get it off in a second or 2 anyway due to time.

All around terrible coaching
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag⏩
Josh Allen won that game twice. The more I think about it the crazier it gets.

Letting tyreek burn your entire D. The one guy that can take the top off a defense.

Not squibbing or pooching it.

Then letting them go like 40 plus yards in 2 plays. And rushing 4 when Mahomes needs to get it off in a second or 2 anyway due to time.

All around terrible coaching
its a curse. I dont think buffalo is capable of winning anything. Its the only explanation for what happened.

Allen took on the football gods and almost won. He wasnt playing the chiefs.
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag⏩
Josh Allen won that game twice. The more I think about it the crazier it gets.

Letting tyreek burn your entire D. The one guy that can take the top off a defense.

Not squibbing or pooching it.

Then letting them go like 40 plus yards in 2 plays. And rushing 4 when Mahomes needs to get it off in a second or 2 anyway due to time.

All around terrible coaching
I was rooting for you guys. Special teams and defensive coordinators need to be launched. Those 2 safeties were standing at the 30 yard line on the 2nd play of the drive. How about squibbing the ball to the 5 and make the Chiefs burn some clock?

Bills needed a rover on Mahomes.

I am a Pats fan. I don't root for Brady. That's like rooting for your ex-wife after she leaves you for another guy. Phuc that.

Don't play the "if" game. Dee Ford lined off side and the Chiefs couldn't get off the field.
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What goes around comes around.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
And to think I rooted for the chefs since I thought there fans were less annoying

Mahomes is extremely gifted, and blessed to have started his career with a literal arsenal of weapons. Don’t forget his slump for over half this season.
Why are you so mad? lol.

I actually gave Brady a great compliment and you neg haha. This is my issue with Brady fans, they will mention other QBs having weapons, but ignore the weapons Tom has had in his career and literally the greatest defensive coach of all time to go with it.

Notice that you never disputed the fact that Brady has consistently had great defenses in his career. It still doesn't take away from his accomplishments though!

He's still a phenomenal QB.
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Josh Allen 27-37 [73%], 329 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, 136.0 rating

Pat Mahomes 33-44 [75%], 378 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 123.1 rating

First playoff game in NFL history both QBs had a passer rating of 123 or higher.

Some of the best QB play we've ever seen.

Patrick Mahomes after the 2-minute warning and in overtime

🔥 10/13
🔥 188 yards
🔥 2 TDs
🔥 157.9 passer rating
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