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Dr Peterson always had a tendency to go on tangents but he was always able to bring it back to hammer a point.
Now he's going on a tangent but not really coming back to the point he was making.
He was interrupting Rogan a lot too and it was pretty uncomfortable.
I hope he learns from this.
Now he's going on a tangent but not really coming back to the point he was making.
He was interrupting Rogan a lot too and it was pretty uncomfortable.
I hope he learns from this.
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30 minutes in and not loving it. Something seems off. Rogan fact-checking one of JP's "7 million kids dead/year from indoor pollution" statements did not make me feel great my beliefs of what JP says.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
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Originally Posted By bsmit107⏩
Yeah that was a very cringy moment30 minutes in and not loving it. Something seems off. Rogan fact-checking one of JP's "7 million kids dead/year from indoor pollution" statements did not make me feel great my beliefs of what JP says.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
01-26-2022, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan⏩
What would happen to me? What are you warning me about? That if im sick il listen to JP and conclude that im sad instead of going to see a doctor?I said OTHER people said that you fukin retard. I haven't had cancer so how can I compare it?! I was merely highlighting that it is a fuked up disease yet every doctor you go to tells you nah dawg you're chitting water out your ass 20x a day because of stress and anxiety, take some antidepressants. And the reason they do that is because 'psychology' has convinced people that all illnesses are mental. That's why in my other post I gave an example of someone I knew who died of colon cancer for the same reason. What is narcissistic about pointing out that this could happen to you too and trying to warn you not to trust people like Jordan Peterson?
I'm irate when I see this snake oil salesman preach about 'being a man', 'cleaning your room', taking responsibility, how men today are depressed and soy blah blah blah, then when his life gets tough he jumps on so many benzos he has to go to a rehab clinic while his wife is dying lmao. What a fukin role model.
If you want I can find the proof because Jordan AND Mikayla both talk about her going to several doctors getting antidepressants because they thought it was all in her head. The fukin girl was eating 1 kind of meat for a year because she thought she had food intolerance lmao. Do you really believe him being a 'clinical psychologist' had no influence on this?
Hedonistic, do you even know what that word means? What fuking pleasure do I find from having C diff you stupid kunt lmao. What pleasure do I get from being pissed that these charlatans are the role models men look up to while using hard drugs whenever they have a stressful situation? Why do you think so many young people are on antidepressants and committing suicide? Because they seek help from these ****g0ts who put them on drugs that fuk their brains up.
I'm irate when I see this snake oil salesman preach about 'being a man', 'cleaning your room', taking responsibility, how men today are depressed and soy blah blah blah, then when his life gets tough he jumps on so many benzos he has to go to a rehab clinic while his wife is dying lmao. What a fukin role model.
If you want I can find the proof because Jordan AND Mikayla both talk about her going to several doctors getting antidepressants because they thought it was all in her head. The fukin girl was eating 1 kind of meat for a year because she thought she had food intolerance lmao. Do you really believe him being a 'clinical psychologist' had no influence on this?
Hedonistic, do you even know what that word means? What fuking pleasure do I find from having C diff you stupid kunt lmao. What pleasure do I get from being pissed that these charlatans are the role models men look up to while using hard drugs whenever they have a stressful situation? Why do you think so many young people are on antidepressants and committing suicide? Because they seek help from these ****g0ts who put them on drugs that fuk their brains up.
Every doctor would say nah dawg take some antidepressants because youre pissing water out your azz 20x/day?
I apologize you went through illness, i myself have gone through similar. But a few cases does not mean it happens to everyone.
I dont know if his background influenced his daughters choices of going to the doctor or not.
The guy preaches good lessons. He didnt walk the walk though on one occasion. Thats it. Hardly falls under taking hard drugs for every stressful situation.
Do you even statistics? Do you know how many simple things like abdominal pain, rash, fatigue, etc etc never get diagnosed. Do you know what global pain is? Medicine is very real, and an aspect of that is physical and also mental.
Im not defending the guy at all, but you seem to just be generally angry my man. Angry at JP and angry at doctors in general.
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Originally Posted By T150⏩
Hes not a con man. He was a tenured professor at University of Toronto with hundreds of publications, his own clinic and has taught at Harvard.Wait...Some of you are surprised that JP gets his facts wrong? JFC.
Like any good con man, he mixes lots of common sense with equal amounts of pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Like any good con man, he mixes lots of common sense with equal amounts of pseudo-intellectual garbage.
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Originally Posted By PenguinWarrior⏩
Of course he's not a con man. He has an H-index of 55. That's very good for any academic/researcher.Hes not a con man. He was a tenured professor at University of Toronto with hundreds of publications, his own clinic and has taught at Harvard.
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Originally Posted By bsmit107⏩
Got his facts mixed up with that but looks like he wasn’t too far off the mark:30 minutes in and not loving it. Something seems off. Rogan fact-checking one of JP's "7 million kids dead/year from indoor pollution" statements did not make me feel great my beliefs of what JP says.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
Hopefully it's gets better and I was super excited when I saw it pop up, but have been kind of let down so far.
- WHO estimated that there were about 4.3 million deaths in 2012 caused by indoor air pollution, mostly people cooking inside using wood and coal stoves in Asia.
- 7 million die per year on indoor + outdoor pollution
- 1.5mil children per year die from air pollution
- 7 mil children per year life expectancy reduced due to air pollution.
I don’t think the exact number is the core of his argument, he’s in the ballpark somewhat.
But I don’t get how this supports his argument against climate change activist? What is he trying to argue here? That we should stop polluting the air, isn’t that what climate change activists argue for? Not a rhetorical question, listened to it last night and missed the core of his argument with this point.
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Originally Posted By PenguinWarrior⏩
Which doesn't make him infallible. Especially when he speaks outside his area of expertise.Hes not a con man. He was a tenured professor at University of Toronto with hundreds of publications, his own clinic and has taught at Harvard.
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Yeah the first 15-20 mins of climate change talk were painful to listen to. I have no idea why he used that line of argument. Climate is everything, everything is climate. Wtf brah
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
Was he arguing that money could be better spent building infrastructure than combating climate change?Got his facts mixed up with that but looks like he wasn’t too far off the mark:
- WHO estimated that there were about 4.3 million deaths in 2012 caused by indoor air pollution, mostly people cooking inside using wood and coal stoves in Asia.
- 7 million die per year on indoor + outdoor pollution
- 1.5mil children per year die from air pollution
- 7 mil children per year life expectancy reduced due to air pollution.
I don’t think the exact number is the core of his argument, he’s in the ballpark somewhat.
But I don’t get how this supports his argument against climate change activist? What is he trying to argue here? That we should stop polluting the air, isn’t that what climate change activists argue for? Not a rhetorical question, listened to it last night and missed the core of his argument with this point.
- WHO estimated that there were about 4.3 million deaths in 2012 caused by indoor air pollution, mostly people cooking inside using wood and coal stoves in Asia.
- 7 million die per year on indoor + outdoor pollution
- 1.5mil children per year die from air pollution
- 7 mil children per year life expectancy reduced due to air pollution.
I don’t think the exact number is the core of his argument, he’s in the ballpark somewhat.
But I don’t get how this supports his argument against climate change activist? What is he trying to argue here? That we should stop polluting the air, isn’t that what climate change activists argue for? Not a rhetorical question, listened to it last night and missed the core of his argument with this point.
Globalist like Gates want people to die. They feel like overpopulation and climate change are one and the same.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
Still haven't watched but as I recall generally the argument is that climate change activists are prioritizing "green technology" over human lives.Got his facts mixed up with that but looks like he wasn’t too far off the mark:
- WHO estimated that there were about 4.3 million deaths in 2012 caused by indoor air pollution, mostly people cooking inside using wood and coal stoves in Asia.
- 7 million die per year on indoor + outdoor pollution
- 1.5mil children per year die from air pollution
- 7 mil children per year life expectancy reduced due to air pollution.
I don’t think the exact number is the core of his argument, he’s in the ballpark somewhat.
But I don’t get how this supports his argument against climate change activist? What is he trying to argue here? That we should stop polluting the air, isn’t that what climate change activists argue for? Not a rhetorical question, listened to it last night and missed the core of his argument with this point.
- WHO estimated that there were about 4.3 million deaths in 2012 caused by indoor air pollution, mostly people cooking inside using wood and coal stoves in Asia.
- 7 million die per year on indoor + outdoor pollution
- 1.5mil children per year die from air pollution
- 7 mil children per year life expectancy reduced due to air pollution.
I don’t think the exact number is the core of his argument, he’s in the ballpark somewhat.
But I don’t get how this supports his argument against climate change activist? What is he trying to argue here? That we should stop polluting the air, isn’t that what climate change activists argue for? Not a rhetorical question, listened to it last night and missed the core of his argument with this point.
What is being sold as technology to "save the planet" looks more like a big corporate/government[see: fascism, the marriage of corporate and government power]money and power grabwhen you look at all of the things that could be done to reduce pollution without draining more wealth from the masses.
- require all electric vehicles which necessitates a massive investment in new vehicles and power generation/transmission
- shift investment to "renewable energy" without also creating reliable base power [nuclear] for when renewable energy can't meet demand
- villainize meat as a food source while ignoring human amino acid requirements, that ruminants raised for food are a negligible source of greenhouse gases vs. transportation, the fact that large areas of land are not suited to growing plant foods, or that the oceans [great potential source of animal protein] have been nearly ruined
Meanwhile let's also ignore things that could be done to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that don't make a profit for anyone:
- reducing food waste/rotting food in dumps which would be the third biggest greenhouse gas emitter [giving food away > reduced demand for purchased food > lower profits]
- reducing transportation of products and people by encouraging local production and remote work [halting or highly taxing transport of products from poor countries to rich countries > lower profits; reducing demand for private vehicles + convenience products [time lost to commuting] > lower profits]
We have the technology to create a much higher standard of living while also reducing greenhouse gas emissions given that we are also nearing our population peak.
One road could lead to a better life for most of us, while not making the oligarchs filthy rich and ridiculously powerful.
Not that it would be an easy thing to do- managing de-growth in a humanitarian way would require that humanity overall grow the f*ck up and stop acting like a group of conniving backstabbing high school children vying for social dominance.
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About 2 hours in. This dude has lost his marbles.
Also, Joe hinted at some episodes in February. I would guarantee the one will be with Steven Koonin about his book unsettled. Now Koonin does a really terrible interview but I highly recommend reading the book.
Also, Joe hinted at some episodes in February. I would guarantee the one will be with Steven Koonin about his book unsettled. Now Koonin does a really terrible interview but I highly recommend reading the book.
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JP was not as polished as pre-Covid interviews.
Let me tell you why...
The people of Canada that are red pilled, that see the atrocities that are occuring around them, are mentally beat down.
We see the rest of the world opening up, removing restrictions, our neighbors to the south have some bastions of freedom in TX and FL, but Canada has nothing.
Essentially all of our provincial govts enact the same policies, and follow the lead of the federal govt who is run by a certified moron.
This has taken a massive toll on people the last 2 years.
You can see it in his conversation, as he is seething angry at the "left wing" for destroying a once great country.
For those of us who are unvaccinated, vaccinated by force, or refuse to be boosted - we see the hypocrisy daily and it unfortunately infiltrates all aspects of our lives.
JP is one of those people.
I will give him a pass on this interview.
Let me tell you why...
The people of Canada that are red pilled, that see the atrocities that are occuring around them, are mentally beat down.
We see the rest of the world opening up, removing restrictions, our neighbors to the south have some bastions of freedom in TX and FL, but Canada has nothing.
Essentially all of our provincial govts enact the same policies, and follow the lead of the federal govt who is run by a certified moron.
This has taken a massive toll on people the last 2 years.
You can see it in his conversation, as he is seething angry at the "left wing" for destroying a once great country.
For those of us who are unvaccinated, vaccinated by force, or refuse to be boosted - we see the hypocrisy daily and it unfortunately infiltrates all aspects of our lives.
JP is one of those people.
I will give him a pass on this interview.
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
Exactly. And some fanboys ITT butthurt that I pointed out that fact alone made me lose all respect for this hack.It’s just not cool being a stern voice of rational masculinity then having a nervous breakdown from benzos and crying over everything.
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Originally Posted By LiftBigEatBig⏩
Exactly this.JP was not as polished as pre-Covid interviews.
Let me tell you why...
The people of Canada that are red pilled, that see the atrocities that are occuring around them, are mentally beat down.
We see the rest of the world opening up, removing restrictions, our neighbors to the south have some bastions of freedom in TX and FL, but Canada has nothing.
Essentially all of our provincial govts enact the same policies, and follow the lead of the federal govt who is run by a certified moron.
This has taken a massive toll on people the last 2 years.
You can see it in his conversation, as he is seething angry at the "left wing" for destroying a once great country.
For those of us who are unvaccinated, vaccinated by force, or refuse to be boosted - we see the hypocrisy daily and it unfortunately infiltrates all aspects of our lives.
JP is one of those people.
I will give him a pass on this interview.
Let me tell you why...
The people of Canada that are red pilled, that see the atrocities that are occuring around them, are mentally beat down.
We see the rest of the world opening up, removing restrictions, our neighbors to the south have some bastions of freedom in TX and FL, but Canada has nothing.
Essentially all of our provincial govts enact the same policies, and follow the lead of the federal govt who is run by a certified moron.
This has taken a massive toll on people the last 2 years.
You can see it in his conversation, as he is seething angry at the "left wing" for destroying a once great country.
For those of us who are unvaccinated, vaccinated by force, or refuse to be boosted - we see the hypocrisy daily and it unfortunately infiltrates all aspects of our lives.
JP is one of those people.
I will give him a pass on this interview.
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
You're only 31, still plenty of time left for the chance for life to fuk you in the a$$ and you'll ponder if crying makes you less masculine then.It’s just not cool being a stern voice of rational masculinity then having a nervous breakdown from benzos and crying over everything.
U married? Almost lose the love of your life to cancer? Misc. is so good at empathy and judging a person for a chit hand they've been dealt. Keep acting like a wise, tough guy 30yo. Just lol. You haven't even lived life yet.
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan⏩
Are you in the states? Did you go see a psychologist or psychiatrist for your bowel issues or was this a medical doctor?I said OTHER people said that you fukin retard. I haven't had cancer so how can I compare it?! I was merely highlighting that it is a fuked up disease yet every doctor you go to tells you nah dawg you're chitting water out your ass 20x a day because of stress and anxiety, take some antidepressants. And the reason they do that is because 'psychology' has convinced people that all illnesses are mental. That's why in my other post I gave an example of someone I knew who died of colon cancer for the same reason. What is narcissistic about pointing out that this could happen to you too and trying to warn you not to trust people like Jordan Peterson?
I'm irate when I see this snake oil salesman preach about 'being a man', 'cleaning your room', taking responsibility, how men today are depressed and soy blah blah blah, then when his life gets tough he jumps on so many benzos he has to go to a rehab clinic while his wife is dying lmao. What a fukin role model.
If you want I can find the proof because Jordan AND Mikayla both talk about her going to several doctors getting antidepressants because they thought it was all in her head. The fukin girl was eating 1 kind of meat for a year because she thought she had food intolerance lmao. Do you really believe him being a 'clinical psychologist' had no influence on this?
Hedonistic, do you even know what that word means? What fuking pleasure do I find from having C diff you stupid kunt lmao. What pleasure do I get from being pissed that these charlatans are the role models men look up to while using hard drugs whenever they have a stressful situation? Why do you think so many young people are on antidepressants and committing suicide? Because they seek help from these ****g0ts who put them on drugs that fuk their brains up.
I'm irate when I see this snake oil salesman preach about 'being a man', 'cleaning your room', taking responsibility, how men today are depressed and soy blah blah blah, then when his life gets tough he jumps on so many benzos he has to go to a rehab clinic while his wife is dying lmao. What a fukin role model.
If you want I can find the proof because Jordan AND Mikayla both talk about her going to several doctors getting antidepressants because they thought it was all in her head. The fukin girl was eating 1 kind of meat for a year because she thought she had food intolerance lmao. Do you really believe him being a 'clinical psychologist' had no influence on this?
Hedonistic, do you even know what that word means? What fuking pleasure do I find from having C diff you stupid kunt lmao. What pleasure do I get from being pissed that these charlatans are the role models men look up to while using hard drugs whenever they have a stressful situation? Why do you think so many young people are on antidepressants and committing suicide? Because they seek help from these ****g0ts who put them on drugs that fuk their brains up.
I've never heard of a General Practitioner or anyone for that matter NOT a psychiatrist prescribing anti depressants.
Sorry you went through it but I find it strange that going to my general practitioner with chronic diarrhea that he or she would automatically think to go to anti depressants.
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Jordan Peterson had a lot to say
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Originally Posted By JtotheIzzo⏩
Now that you mention it..Jordan Peterson had a lot to say
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Joe Rogan has always been a dumb ****, and Peterson being unstable since his medical problems does not help.
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