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Academic journals are the dumbest things I've ever read
02-01-2022, 09:30 AM
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while research papers kinda have to be like that by design. at the same time in university when writing a paper they teach you how to be concise and efficient with your wording. brb having 20 sentences to explain something that can be explained in 4. obviously some papers do a better job than others. motherfukers don't have time to read all of that chit and want you to get straight to the point. however to be fair sometimes chit is a bit too complex it becomes hard to do so.
But papers come in all sort of styles, i.e: critiques, analyses, research, etc.
this had me actually looking back to some of the papers I wrote in 3rd/4th year university. one was an analysis of:
"Ventral occipital lesions impair object recognition but not object-directed grasping: an fMRI study. "
lol, had to remind myself how dry and boring these papers are to read with their language.
But papers come in all sort of styles, i.e: critiques, analyses, research, etc.
this had me actually looking back to some of the papers I wrote in 3rd/4th year university. one was an analysis of:
"Ventral occipital lesions impair object recognition but not object-directed grasping: an fMRI study. "
lol, had to remind myself how dry and boring these papers are to read with their language.
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02-01-2022, 09:36 AM
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02-01-2022, 09:39 AM
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But if you can be published 2 times a year for a certain number of years a professor can achieve tenure.
02-01-2022, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Papers for courses =/= academic/scientific journal articles. The goal of an be paper for a class doesn't usually include fostering reproduction or contributing to meta analyses.while research papers kinda have to be like that by design. at the same time in university when writing a paper they teach you how to be concise and efficient with your wording. brb having 20 sentences to explain something that can be explained in 4. obviously some papers do a better job than others. motherfukers don't have time to read all of that chit and want you to get straight to the point. however to be fair sometimes chit is a bit too complex it becomes hard to do so.
But papers come in all sort of styles, i.e: critiques, analyses, research, etc.
this had me actually looking back to some of the papers I wrote in 3rd/4th year university. one was an analysis of:
"Ventral occipital lesions impair object recognition but not object-directed grasping: an fMRI study. "
lol, had to remind myself how dry and boring these papers are to read with their language.
But papers come in all sort of styles, i.e: critiques, analyses, research, etc.
this had me actually looking back to some of the papers I wrote in 3rd/4th year university. one was an analysis of:
"Ventral occipital lesions impair object recognition but not object-directed grasping: an fMRI study. "
lol, had to remind myself how dry and boring these papers are to read with their language.
02-01-2022, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
Not really. The bar for tenure is quite high. The system is rather abusive at the probationary levelBut if you can be published 2 times a year for a certain number of years a professor can achieve tenure.
02-01-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I'm not talking about essays.Essays for courses =/= academic/scientific journal articles. The goal of an be essay for a class doesn't usually include fostering reproduction or contributing to meta analyses.
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02-01-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
I said summaries provided by media are often inaccurate.So what do you mean by "Not written for the general public" if you don't mean that the general public is not able to make an accurate summary?
Those inaccuracies may be due to misunderstanding, either accidental or intentional.
02-01-2022, 10:17 AM
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02-01-2022, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
They don't teach you how to read, write, critique or analyze scientific papers at universities? Damn, post secondary education must have gone to chit in the past decade.Which classes have you submitting articles for publication in a peer-reviewed journal?
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02-01-2022, 10:20 AM
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02-01-2022, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
You are thinking of undergraduate research papers and he is talking about graduate level students (doctoral program) and working academics writing articles for blind review at official journals (or writing a book). Very different.They don't teach you how to read, write, critique or analyze scientific papers at universities? Damn, post secondary education must have gone to chit in the past decade.
02-01-2022, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Not following.They don't teach you how to read, write, critique or analyze scientific papers at universities? Damn, post secondary education must have gone to chit in the past decade.
This thread declared academic journals as "dumb".
Some of the arguments appear to be that they are dumb because they are too detailed.
You argued that you were taught to write concise papers for publication and thus others publishing are doing it wrong.
I asked which courses have you submitting those concise papers.
02-01-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
They are not written in lay language and assume prerequisite knowledge of the field.You're not squirming your way out of this, you also said that they are not meant for the general public; what do you mean by that?
02-01-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The closest thing that I can think of, that he might be referring to, are undergraduate journals that some department puts together every year. Those are not academic or scholarly journals but a lot schools/departments do them as practice for their students.Not following.
This thread declared academic journals as "dumb".
Some of the arguments appear to be that they are dumb because they are too detailed.
You argued that you were taught to write concise papers for publication and thus others publishing are doing it wrong.
I asked which courses have you submitting those concise papers.
This thread declared academic journals as "dumb".
Some of the arguments appear to be that they are dumb because they are too detailed.
You argued that you were taught to write concise papers for publication and thus others publishing are doing it wrong.
I asked which courses have you submitting those concise papers.
02-01-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
quite the leap don't you think? you called them "essays"Not following.
This thread declared academic journals as "dumb".
Some of the arguments appear to be that they are dumb because they are too detailed.
You argued that you were taught to write concise papers for publication and thus others publishing are doing it wrong.
I asked which courses have you submitting those concise papers.
This thread declared academic journals as "dumb".
Some of the arguments appear to be that they are dumb because they are too detailed.
You argued that you were taught to write concise papers for publication and thus others publishing are doing it wrong.
I asked which courses have you submitting those concise papers.
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02-01-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Funny but trueand then msm cancels the people who present the data to a general audience lmao.
02-01-2022, 10:33 AM
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02-01-2022, 10:36 AM
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02-01-2022, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
There are hundreds of thousands of papers in all different fields. The vast majority of summaries are accurate.So please post papers that had inaccurate summaries and post a summary that is accurate.
Here's a random one I picked out of my last research paper that I wrote for graduate school.
Hodge, E. M. (2016). School Desegregation and Federal Inducement: Lessons From the Emergency School Aid Act of 1972. Educational Policy, 32(1), 86–116.https://doi.org/10.1177/0895904816632608
Abstract
This study uses the example of the Emergency School Aid Act of 1972, a federal desegregation incentive program, to discuss the benefits and challenges of equity-oriented incentives. This study applies theories of policy instruments and the social construction of target populations to congressional records, archival program materials, and other historical sources to trace the origin and evolution of the incentives and mandates built into the Emergency School Aid Act.The study ultimately concludes that the program’s combination of a financial incentive with rigorous oversight offers lessons for how to incorporate equity-oriented incentives into current education policy.
The bottom line is that you're talking about (blasting) something you don't really understand.This study uses the example of the Emergency School Aid Act of 1972, a federal desegregation incentive program, to discuss the benefits and challenges of equity-oriented incentives. This study applies theories of policy instruments and the social construction of target populations to congressional records, archival program materials, and other historical sources to trace the origin and evolution of the incentives and mandates built into the Emergency School Aid Act.The study ultimately concludes that the program’s combination of a financial incentive with rigorous oversight offers lessons for how to incorporate equity-oriented incentives into current education policy.
My guess is that you want to believe that all academic-types are full of chit so you can justify your position on some political topic (based on where we are - the Misc - I'd bet my next paycheck that it's vaccines lol). Just let it go. You're talking about stuff you don't understand.
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02-01-2022, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Your abstract is an accurate summary of your paper (I assume!).There are hundreds of thousands of papers in all different fields. The vast majority of summaries are accurate.
Here's a random one I picked out of my last research paper that I wrote for graduate school.
Hodge, E. M. (2016). School Desegregation and Federal Inducement: Lessons From the Emergency School Aid Act of 1972. Educational Policy, 32(1), 86–116.https://doi.org/10.1177/0895904816632608
The bottom line is that you're talking about (blasting) something you don't really understand.
My guess is that you want to believe that all academic-types are full of chit so you can justify your position on some political topic (based on where we are - the Misc - I'd bet my next paycheck that it's vaccines lol). Just let it go. You're talking about stuff you don't understand.
Here's a random one I picked out of my last research paper that I wrote for graduate school.
Hodge, E. M. (2016). School Desegregation and Federal Inducement: Lessons From the Emergency School Aid Act of 1972. Educational Policy, 32(1), 86–116.https://doi.org/10.1177/0895904816632608
The bottom line is that you're talking about (blasting) something you don't really understand.
My guess is that you want to believe that all academic-types are full of chit so you can justify your position on some political topic (based on where we are - the Misc - I'd bet my next paycheck that it's vaccines lol). Just let it go. You're talking about stuff you don't understand.
I was referring to what we're seeing more and more with politicized topics, where media reports "A new study finds..." and presents a summary with more more certainty than present in the actual article, or sometimes presenting inconclusive results as though they are conclusive.
02-01-2022, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I know you were. I'm on your side for the most part.I was referring to what we're seeing more and more with politicized topics
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02-01-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Please stop embarrassing yourself.So no link?
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