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post 1656450543 02-18-2022, 07:54 PM
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College is honestly not for those outside the top level.

Either world class universities or world class schools for a specialty, and military if not, makes sense for most people.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Well, I'm not American, I'm an immigrant, but for the most part I'd say the American dream is alive and well for those willing to earn it. 7 years in my career field, $150k+ per year, multiple houses, multiple cars. Full disclosure, I do not have a white picket fence, it's more like a greenish color.
Immigrants have an advantage. On hiring and AA and ****. You have way more opportunity than impoverished Whites. They dream has died for many Americans
post 1656450803 02-18-2022, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
College is honestly not for those outside the top level.

Either world class universities or world class schools for a specialty, and military if not, makes sense for most people.
Exactly. I'm probs gonna retrain and go the skilled tradie route.
post 1656450953 02-18-2022, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By MilkforBrains⏩
Immigrants have an advantage. On hiring and AA and ****. You have way more opportunity than impoverished Whites. They dream has died for many Americans
I had the "opportunity" to be raised in one of the worst ghettos in the US. I can tell you're just a loser, you'll make every excuse, your life will never get better, because you're too fuking stupid to get out of your own way. Just by being born in the US you've basically won the lottery, what a waste.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I had the "opportunity" to be raised in one of the worst ghettos in the US. I can tell you're just a loser, you'll make every excuse, your life will never get better, because you're too fuking stupid to get out of your own way. Just by being born in the US you've basically won the lottery, what a waste.
If you are straight, white and male you have to work 2-3 times harder to get the same results. It's just the way it is now. No one said life was fair.

And I'n from Europe, not the US
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Originally Posted By MilkforBrains⏩
If you are straight, white and male you have to work 2-3 times harder to get the same results. It's just the way it is now. No one said life was fair.

And I'n from Europe, not the US
Europe, where you don't even need to work. My boss is a straight white male who is younger than me and makes 3 times the amount of money I make.
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post 1656453283 02-18-2022, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Europe, where you don't even need to work. My boss is a straight white male who is younger than me and makes 3 times the amount of money I make.
We do need to. The cost of living so crazy
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College or no college is not the issue; the issue is the toxic myth that someone else prescribes your life purpose.


I went to college, but not for a typical life path or 9-5 career. My dream was to earn a PhD and not stop until I had succeeded because I was so passionate about the plethora of interesting topics I like to research. I tried stereotypical 9-5 jobs and they weren't for me. It took me 10 years from first day of undergrad to now, but I'm basically there, apart from the rigmarole of administration and final defence/examination etc.

I've got a few mates that became lawyers because they thought they "had" to become lawyers. All are miserable.
Back off, Warchild.

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post 1656453563 02-18-2022, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
College or no college is not the issue; the issue is the toxic myth that someone else prescribes your life purpose.


I went to college, but not for a typical life path or 9-5 career. My dream was to earn a PhD and not stop until I had succeeded because I was so passionate about the plethora of interesting topics I like to research. I tried stereotypical 9-5 jobs and they weren't for me. It took me 10 years from first day of undergrad to now, but I'm basically there, apart from the rigmarole of administration and final defence/examination etc.

I've got a few mates that became lawyers because they thought they "had" to become lawyers. All are miserable.
Just think. You're in your 30's and have no skills or experience lmao.

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post 1656453603 02-18-2022, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By PattBattmann⏩
Bruh, I have been working as a CPA for 10 years with an MBA to boot and only make $50K/yr.
Geez, I've gotta change jobs.
Wtf you doing man??? That’s ENTRY at literally any financial firm or commercial bank. You should be making 80-100k effortlessly right now.
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post 1656453633 02-18-2022, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By backinbusiness⏩
Wtf you doing man??? That’s ENTRY at literally any financial firm or commercial bank. You should be making 80-100k effortlessly right now.
Typical miscer lmao.
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post 1656453753 02-18-2022, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
College or no college is not the issue; the issue is the toxic myth that someone else prescribes your life purpose.


I went to college, but not for a typical life path or 9-5 career. My dream was to earn a PhD and not stop until I had succeeded because I was so passionate about the plethora of interesting topics I like to research. I tried stereotypical 9-5 jobs and they weren't for me. It took me 10 years from first day of undergrad to now, but I'm basically there, apart from the rigmarole of administration and final defence/examination etc.

I've got a few mates that became lawyers because they thought they "had" to become lawyers. All are miserable.
ya except you needed a phd to learn this if you did not attend a top undergrad. Most who attend Harvard undergrad or similar do not bother with Ph.D.s. They are invited to research in hedge funds or wherever from undergrad or during undergrad.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Just think. You're in your 30's and have no skills or experience lmao.

Chit smearing ****get.
This is why he’s on the R&P section as a bleeding heart liberal because he has zero life experience and nothing but hard left professors feeding him the propaganda. It will figure it out after all tha hard work is sliced up to Uncle Sam who pisses it away in Russian wars soon.
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post 1656453863 02-18-2022, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By backinbusiness⏩
This is why he’s on the R&P section as a bleeding heart liberal because he has zero life experience and nothing but hard left professors feeding him the propaganda. It will figure it out after all tha hard work is sliced up to Uncle Sam who pisses it away in Russian wars soon.
One thing I never liked about university was having professors who have only worked in academia.

I took finance and I had a phD in finance teaching me about finance lol Would rather have some guy who has actually worked in finance teach me - It's like I don't care about your theories on corporate finance you read from Modigliani and Miller I want someone teaching me who has actually worked in corp finance

Had a few profs who were part time and worked full time and those were always the best profs
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Originally Posted By TallWhiteDude⏩
fuarrrk i don't know if it's the same in accounting but at least in tech if you want to drastically increase your income you generally gotta job hop at least every 2-3 yrs. the same company doesn't have any incentive to give you big raises if they know you're sticking around. start polishing that resume boyo
It sucks but this is true. Just the way it is now.

It used to be that people generally stuck with their same job for life and got great benefits, regular raises and bonuses and retired early with a great pension and retirement.

Now you gotta switch jobs every year or two just to keep up with the inflation. I hate job hunting and having to go through all the interviews and trial periods and then have to get settled just to move again in a few years.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
The American dream is a myth
They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it

It used to be reality though. It used to be that the average person could just work hard at an average job and be able to buy a home, own a car or two, support a stay at home wife and a few kids and still take regular vacations.
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Originally Posted By MilkforBrains⏩
If you are straight, white and male you have to work 2-3 times harder to get the same results. It's just the way it is now. No one said life was fair.

And I'n from Europe, not the US
Anyone denying this fact is being intentionally obtuse or is a Boomer.

I can confirm it absolutely sucks for straight white males right now. I'm looking for jobs because I can't get a raise and every single job right now is basically only hiring based on "diversity" or are hiring remote overseas or H1B.

Even my company now. When I started it was almost all white men but they all left and I'm basically the only one left. They've hired a bunch of "diverse" people who are very subpar at their job but got hired because "diversity is our strength". Most companies now have "Diversity Directors" and other bullchit positions that push this stuff. Corporations now have social credit scores called ESG ratings too based on how "woke" they are.
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
Sometimes I wish I did something earlier in my life career wise, but then I look at the morons who wasted all their time in college getting a chit degree and only came out with a lot of student debt, and that reminds me I don't have it too bad
Id say its actually better to come out of college with a chit degree(because they make you take core classes for the first two years, which is important) and in debt then to have never gone to college at all.

Money can always be earned. But knowledge, nobody goes and seeks it outside of a higher education setting - I'm studying physics right now and the textbooks(I have several) are the thickest books I own. People avoid physics because 1. it's mathematical, 2. its very dense in subject matter. But the thing is - physics kept the American's from "conquering" Russia, back then and TODAY. Physics was also responsible for Saddams downfall.

Life is about PHYSICS mogging.

I am talking to an automotive engineer who's retired after 40 years and he physics mogged me in alot of our convos online. But after getting some education, I finally understand some of his statements. But he was PHYSICs mogging me the whole time.

Funny enough, he convinced me to attend college. Not even my own family could have convinced me to go.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Lol really?

I have a bachelors degree in business admin and passed level 1 of the cfa and make 200k

Surely you’re trolling??
Uhh a lot of people with degrees make $50k a year. It's the average US middle income. Not everyone is making $200k-$500k per year like on the Misc.

Non degree retail workers generally make around $30k per year

Salary workers with a degree make around $50k to $60k per year
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Or get into the union, get paid training, guaranteed raises, do alpha chit and make 6 figures




Profit?
Thanks for your input, you frauding fat slampig-Sirfapsalot '20

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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Id say its actually better to come out of college with a chit degree(because they make you take core classes for the first two years, which is important), or in debt, then to have never gone to college at all.

Money can always be earned. But knowledge, nobody goes and seeks it - I'm studying physics right now and the textbooks(I have several) are the thickest books I own. People avoid physics because 1. it's mathematical, 2. its very dense in subject matter. But the thing is - physics kept the American's from "conquering" Russia, back then and TODAY. Physics was also responsible for Saddams downfall.
Be realistic.. I know people who are 100k + in debt working dead end jobs. If your degree can't get you a decent post graduation, then it's not worth the time/effort regardless of how much you learn. At one point in my college career, I wanted to do social work because it was my "passion" to help people in need. Little did I know, that career paid peanuts even with a Master's degree. Passion can only take you so far... a lot of the time, it boils down to finding a decent paying job that can put food on the table.
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Originally Posted By DJKhaled⏩
Uhh a lot of people with degrees make $50k a year. It's the average US middle income. Not everyone is making $200k-$500k per year like on the Misc.

Non degree retail workers generally make around $30k per year

Salary workers with a degree make around $50k to $60k per year
The guy I quoted has a CPA and mba and 10 years of experience …
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8⏩
Or get into the union, get paid training, guaranteed raises, do alpha chit and make 6 figures




Profit?
how does one get into the union with no experience?
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Originally Posted By H00J⏩
how does one get into the union with no experience?
Apply, take their test, and hope you get a interview letter.
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Originally Posted By wutevs⏩
Be realistic.. I know people who are 100k + in debt working dead end jobs. If your degree can't get you a decent post graduation, then it's not worth the time/effort regardless of how much you learn. At one point in my college career, I wanted to do social work because it was my "passion" to help people in need. Little did I know, that career paid peanuts even with a Master's degree. Passion can only take you so far... a lot of the time, it boils down to finding a decent paying job that can put food on the table.
Alright Ill try to be more objective. Tuition for KU in Kansas is around 60k. It is expensive because my nephew is going there. He's sitting at home right now(its barely 1 semester) because his parents couldn't come up with 15k.

I mean, if you can't land a job in your field of study with 100k worth of tuition, that's just terrible life decision in general.

But I still believe what I said. It's better to come out in debt than to have never gone to college. You are enriched with useful information and there's still a good chance to be hired - on the other hand is being stupid forever with zero possibility of being hired.

All that said, I've made going to CC cool again. My tuition was only 6k - all paid for by the gov.

State colleges like KU should be left to the kids with rich parents. In the end it doesn't really matter. Because the kids arn't paying with their own money, they don't value what they learn. So they aren't competitive in the job market and rely on nepotism and connection.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Alright Ill try to be more objective. Tuition for KU in Kansas is around 60k. It is expensive because my nephew is going there. He's sitting at home right now(its barely 1 semester) because his parents couldn't come up with 15k.

I mean, if you can't land a job in your field of study with 100k worth of tuition, that's just terrible life decision in general.

But I still believe what I said. It's better to come out in debt than to have never gone to college. You are enriched with useful information and there's still a good chance to be hired - on the other hand is being stupid forever with zero possibility of being hired.

All that said, I've made going to CC cool again. My tuition was only 6k - all paid for by the gov.

State colleges like KU should be left to the kids with rich parents. In the end it doesn't really matter. Because the kids arn't paying with their own money, they don't value what they learn. So they aren't competitive in the job market and rely on nepotism and connection.
Lol you're making a lot of blanket statements/assumptions here for me to bother to address them all. Not sure how old you are, but one day you'll see that the world isn't that black and white.
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Originally Posted By H00J⏩
how does one get into the union with no experience?
The apprenticeships give you the experience. You can also show up to the local in person and sign up. I had someone on the inside so I didnt have to wait but the wait times can be over a year or two since ****s refuse to retire once they are useless and just milk the job for all it's worth
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Originally Posted By wutevs⏩
Lol you're making a lot of blanket statements/assumptions here for me to bother to address them all. Not sure how old you are, but one day you'll see that the world isn't that black and white.
I'm older than you by 4 years.

Of course, I'm just going by what I know. Motivation plays a huge role in life. People who live comfortable lives aren't competitive to people with motivation and drive. That's basic psychology. I know this first hand because when I made a small amount of money, I thought I was going to be set and I can see that my mind changed completely. I didn't want to do anything other than just be lazy.

That's why I can say I got more out of just 1 semester of CC than most people who went to 4 years at a state college paying 60-100k. I just have more drive, determination, hunger, resentment, and motivation. Motivation doesn't come out of thin air.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
brutal brah brutal
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lol @ anti-education MISC'ers.







Everyone brah I know making 100K+ has a college degree. Some tradies make bank... but most make chite money and need to drink and take pills to forget it and use survivorship bias to fool you into thinking they are all rolling in money with their leased trucks and opioid addictions.











Also lol @ using rappers as a metric for success. You still in high school homie?
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