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02-26-2022, 11:57 PM
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This part of Breaking Bad I never understood.
The To'hajilee scene where Hank and Jessie finally get Walt.
I don't understand how they were able to arrest Walt. All that Walt really did was jump in his car and speed out into the desert. Sure, he did that because he was scared of losing his money, but he got tricked by the fake they made.
Hank had no tangible evidence connecting him to the meth operation, no tangible evidence the money even existed--even though he was in the right spot--and only Jesse's word that all of this existed. And even if they did find the money, is it even a crime to have a Scrooge McDuck pile of cash? I wasn't aware it was a crime to have a lot of money and nothing connects it to the meth operation.
The only possible reason I can think that gave Hank grounds to arrest Walt was his mention on the phone that he ran over drug dealers and killed Crazy 8. Thoughts?
I don't understand how they were able to arrest Walt. All that Walt really did was jump in his car and speed out into the desert. Sure, he did that because he was scared of losing his money, but he got tricked by the fake they made.
Hank had no tangible evidence connecting him to the meth operation, no tangible evidence the money even existed--even though he was in the right spot--and only Jesse's word that all of this existed. And even if they did find the money, is it even a crime to have a Scrooge McDuck pile of cash? I wasn't aware it was a crime to have a lot of money and nothing connects it to the meth operation.
The only possible reason I can think that gave Hank grounds to arrest Walt was his mention on the phone that he ran over drug dealers and killed Crazy 8. Thoughts?
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02-26-2022, 11:59 PM
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haven't re-watched in a couple years but is this actual tangible evidence or just a dramatic scene for the viewers?
02-27-2022, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Skeptical_Hippo⏩
They never had tangible evidence of anything. Everything else was a dead end but the money. That's when they devised the plan to trick Walt with the photo. It worked, and he sped out to the desert, but all Walt has done has raced away in a car. He could just deny the money existed, or downplay the amount of money, or say he found it down a well or something.haven't re-watched in a couple years but is this actual tangible evidence or just a dramatic scene for the viewers?
It's not a crime to have a lot of money. I just don't see a justification for arresting Walt.
Back off, Warchild.
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02-27-2022, 12:07 AM
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Jesse's story directly contradicts Walt's bs story in the DVD he made to blackmail Hank. At that point it was only Jesse's word against Walt's, but finding Walt's millions and Hank's partner Steve Gomez witnessing all of that unfold (Walt leading them to his stash) was pretty damning evidence that Walt's "confession" was a lie and that Jesse's confession was the legitimate one.
02-27-2022, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Skeptical_Hippo⏩
That’s the scene when Hank realized it was Walt. There were subtle hints throughout the show and I believe he reviewed gales book and asked Walt who WW was. Yeah so he saw the WW in gales book and then saw it in walts book along with GB. There was also that poverty sketch of heisenberg. Jesse faking hanks wife was in the hospital. Along with Walt acting weird the entire show. There was also that realization when Walt caused that car accident.haven't re-watched in a couple years but is this actual tangible evidence or just a dramatic scene for the viewers?
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02-27-2022, 12:47 AM
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Man, I love BB. I think with these shows, sometimes you just have to take it at face value to enjoy it. I'm sure a lot of the evidence stacked against Walt wouldn't be admissible in a real court, but if we're talking real life.. Hank was a good detective when it came down to it. I'm sure if he kept digging, he would've found evidence somehow whether it be through Skylar or Jesse. Walt was just incredibly (and conveniently) lucky throughout this entire show.
If we're talking plot holes though.. Dexter New Blood... I never had so much love for a series before only for it to be ruined in one single episode (the finale).
If we're talking plot holes though.. Dexter New Blood... I never had so much love for a series before only for it to be ruined in one single episode (the finale).
02-27-2022, 12:58 AM
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02-27-2022, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted By wutevs⏩
I'm as willing to suspend belief as much as the next guy, but it's just too much of a stretch. They had nothing tangible on Walt at all. No justifiable reason to chase him into the desert, and no legal grounds to slap the cuffs on him. Speeding into the desert isn't a crime. Nor is having a large pile of money.Man, I love BB. I think with these shows, sometimes you just have to take it at face value to enjoy it. I'm sure a lot of the evidence stacked against Walt wouldn't be admissible in a real court, but if we're talking real life.. Hank was a good detective when it came down to it. I'm sure if he kept digging, he would've found evidence somehow whether it be through Skylar or Jesse. Walt was just incredibly (and conveniently) lucky throughout this entire show.
If we're talking plot holes though.. Dexter New Blood... I never had so much love for a series before only for it to be ruined in one single episode (the finale).
If we're talking plot holes though.. Dexter New Blood... I never had so much love for a series before only for it to be ruined in one single episode (the finale).
I'll admit I wanted Walt to get away too. Why I analyzed this so much.
Back off, Warchild.
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02-27-2022, 01:16 AM
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I have been arrested for:
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
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02-27-2022, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted By TheFitLord⏩
What the fuk?I have been arrested for:
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
02-27-2022, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By TheFitLord⏩
4am estI have been arrested for:
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
1) mentioning to my counselor that I planned on buying a pot to cook beans in (they said pot was drug related, they took what I said completely out of context.)
2) saying I needed to drink water after eating when my counselor wanted to take me somewhere (they claimed I was talking about alcohol, completely out of context)
3) walking down a Main Street eating cheese that someone gave me, the cops said they thought it was stolen.
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You can get arrested for anything, anytime by the police and it’s up to the court system to sort it out.
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02-27-2022, 01:51 AM
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02-27-2022, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
reality is even worse than that. anybody can sue you civilly. when you're taken to court by the police, you're sued by the stateWhat the fuk?
all that training cops go under gives them pretty good advantage in the court of law
all court is is compiling evidence to make a narrative more believable. that's it. it doesn't mean 100% guilty. most of the time the aim is to get the defendant to admit guilt. after that is reasonable doubt
i think the typical picture of court painted is one of "justice", but in reality it's not that at all. it's about crafting and framing a narrative [true or false], which gives way to so much bullchit
02-27-2022, 02:16 AM
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02-27-2022, 02:59 AM
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lmao @ arguing about a tv show plot
GOAT show though
GOAT show though
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02-27-2022, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted By II
It's not unusual, I do this all the time and on the BB forums people discuss all kinds of what ifs and counterfactuals.lmao @ arguing about a tv show plot
GOAT show though
GOAT show though
And the scene in question was a massive turning point in how the entire show unfolded from there on in. I don't take discrepancies like that lightly.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
02-27-2022, 04:53 AM
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Sure it's enough to arrest him on. There's nothing wrong with the scenes in that regard. A DEA ASAC can certainly make an arrest off of the text convo between Walt/Hank alone. Suspected Drug Dealer tricked into leading them to barrels of cash. Almost likely enough for a judge to sign a search warrant too.
Now add in the fact that they also had Walts Accomplice giving a full confession and it's likely they'd have no problem getting an indictment, as well.
Now was there enough evidence to hold or convict him based off of that text convo? Almost certainly not if Walt had a good lawyer, but it'd come down to how much of Jesse's testimony was allowed/believed etc.
But we never got to find out.
Now add in the fact that they also had Walts Accomplice giving a full confession and it's likely they'd have no problem getting an indictment, as well.
Now was there enough evidence to hold or convict him based off of that text convo? Almost certainly not if Walt had a good lawyer, but it'd come down to how much of Jesse's testimony was allowed/believed etc.
But we never got to find out.
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