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post 1656955413 02-26-2022, 03:55 PM
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It says right in the video this same thing can happen just from getting the virus ...... I'm sure op didn't watch that far
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
It's not something you have checked to compare levels. D-Dimer is something we use to rule OUT blood clots. A high D-Dimer does infact not indicate blood clots per say, just infers that there is a risk of it and it must be further controlled. Plenty of factors increase D-Dimers in otherwise clot-free healthy populations such as pregnancy, common colds, age, and more.

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I didn't bring up D-Dimer and it doesn't relate to my post.
Originally Posted By zonee2k
This is my first post to misc in like a decade. I went from bodybuilding to studying physical therapy and then getting an MD after that. I've worked in the ER throughout the pandemic and I can tell you that I never had a vaccinated patient with double sided pneumonia during the delta times, however there was plenty of unvaccinated elderly who I saw get it and pass away from it as well. Not to speak of those who survived by had a very rough recovery. It's tragic, really.

Long Covid seems to be real from my own anecdotes. That said I did have one patient who seemingly developed myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine. But then again, I sawseveralyoung healthy males (unvaccinated) who suffered from myocarditis after Covid infection. There are scientific studies supporting this as well - the risk of myocarditis after covid is is 14x higher than from the vaccination itself (https://theconversation.com/myocardi...ination-174580scientific studies found in the article).
I've never discounted the potential seriousness of the virus for vulnerable people, the reality of long covid, or that people have gotten myocarditis after a covid infection.
Originally Posted By zonee2k
So I'm just coming here to tell you that the OP stance is ****ed. Vaccinations might have side effects, but considering how many people got vaccinated world wide it's remarkable how little unwanted effects it has had. At the end of the day people like OP just want to find potential reasons to support their stance for not vaccinating themselves - even though it's basically them just being afraid of a ****ing shot. All this pathetic rambling about the dangerous of "spike proteins". OK. Only person I've seen talk about this in real life was an otherwise schizophrenic middle aged lady.

We all did what we had to do in the pandemic. If you didn't get vaccinated and was well off - good for you. The rest of us just wanted to go back to a normal life quicker, or to protect our weak and loved ones. If you didn't get vaccinated you made an egoistic decision based on you fears. That speaks greatly of the type of person anti-vaxxers are. The rest of us actually took the risk (everyone knew there was some risk involved) in hopes for a better society and for the safety of others.
If you knew me you would know that this isn't true. I initially was considering vaccination, though I was hesitant due to how quickly is was rolled out. My ex husband did get the injections and died of a heart attack after the second one. My daughter is down to one parent. And I've been sick 3X- the first time near the start of pandemic when I didn't have fever, but a very bad headache, body aches and chills. Maybe it was correlation, not causation, but I believe we have paid our pound of flesh and that the shots aren't worth it for us anyway.
Originally Posted By zonee2k
I'll admit that I was also a vaccine sceptic when I was browsing misc more than 10 years ago. However I was 17-18 at the time, and then I decided to actually educate myself for real, not just fearmonger on forums and try to "do my own research" from basically pure conformational bias. Once you have your MD you see how deluded most people are trying to understand how science works, or how to read and interpret articles that are way above their level of understanding. This or they echo the opinion of a quack youtube physician trying to make a quick buck feeding contrarian / populistic opinions to the uneducated.

Anyways have fun on your high horse thinking the world is a conspiracy while you're ultimately just making selfish decisions based on uneducated fears.

Peace.
I'm not a vaccine skeptic or anti-vaxxer in the real sense. I've had all the normal vaccines and my daughter had them all too.

If you truly believe that the large increase in all cause mortality [in people with no COVID diagnosis] is totally unrelated to these shots I'm curious what your alternative explanation is and if you have anything to support it.

The post injection data leaked from the VA?



Which they then claimed was a glitch? But their "corrected" data doesn't make any sense?





Or the report from the German health insurer, BKK, estimating 4% to 5% of their insured sought medical care for post shot effects? Their estimate that 31,000 people suffered fatal adverse events post injection?

Or the other chart I included from Australia that shows a suspected 33.3 fatalities per 100k people from the shots?

You can look at the FOI yourself if you want...3586 at this link:

https://www.tga.gov.au/foi-disclosure-log


I understand that it is mostly redacted.

There has been a lot of redaction and foot dragging and straight up admission of data being hidden from the public.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2022...-covid-19-data

^^^
Original article was in the NYT.

If the data supported the shots then they wouldn't be hiding it.
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post 1656955673 02-26-2022, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
Long Covid seems to be real from my own anecdotes. That said I did have one patient who seemingly developed myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine. But then again, I sawseveralyoung healthy males (unvaccinated) who suffered from myocarditis after Covid infection. There are scientific studies supporting this as well - the risk of myocarditis after covid is is 14x higher than from the vaccination itself (https://theconversation.com/myocardi...ination-174580scientific studies found in the article).

The rest of us just wanted to go back to a normal life quicker, or to protect our weak and loved ones. If you didn't get vaccinated you made an egoistic decision based on you fears. That speaks greatly of the type of person anti-vaxxers are. The rest of us actually took the risk (everyone knew there was some risk involved) in hopes for a better society and for the safety of others.
Myocarditis is higher in males <40 than covid infection. The studies are clear:
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.co...tis-stratified

Vax doesn't pevent infection or transmission and vaccinated carry similar viral loads as unvaxxed. So tell how getting vaccinated is for the "safety of others" and to "to protect our weak and loved ones". You sound like a quack doc
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Originally Posted By GM54
It says right in the video this same thing can happen just from getting the virus ...... I'm sure op didn't watch that far
Already covered ITT that there have been people diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis post viral infection with COVID if that is what you are referring to.
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post 1656955993 02-26-2022, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Already covered ITT that there have been people diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis post viral infection with COVID if that is what you are referring to.
Imagine if it was contagious hepatitis tinder about to be wild af
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Wife and i refused the jab. she had covid twice, but maybe 3-4 days of symptoms each.

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Originally Posted By JUSA
but if that a large fry and coke are your daily meals, eventually it will bring you down.
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For me personally. Looking at the people in my life, who were anti vaccine vs pro vaccine. “Even though I am very skeptical about anything handed down from big brother” I got the shot. Way too many suspicious vaccine smooth brains.
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
It's not something you have checked to compare levels. D-Dimer is something we use to rule OUT blood clots. A high D-Dimer does infact not indicate blood clots per say, just infers that there is a risk of it and it must be further controlled. Plenty of factors increase D-Dimers in otherwise clot-free healthy populations such as pregnancy, common colds, age, and more.

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This is my first post to misc in like a decade. I went from bodybuilding to studying physical therapy and then getting an MD after that. I've worked in the ER throughout the pandemic and I can tell you that I never had a vaccinated patient with double sided pneumonia during the delta times, however there was plenty of unvaccinated elderly who I saw get it and pass away from it as well. Not to speak of those who survived by had a very rough recovery. It's tragic, really.

Long Covid seems to be real from my own anecdotes. That said I did have one patient who seemingly developed myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine. But then again, I sawseveralyoung healthy males (unvaccinated) who suffered from myocarditis after Covid infection. There are scientific studies supporting this as well - the risk of myocarditis after covid is is 14x higher than from the vaccination itself (https://theconversation.com/myocardi...ination-174580scientific studies found in the article).

So I'm just coming here to tell you that the OP stance is ****ed. Vaccinations might have side effects, but considering how many people got vaccinated world wide it's remarkable how little unwanted effects it has had. At the end of the day people like OP just want to find potential reasons to support their stance for not vaccinating themselves - even though it's basically them just being afraid of a ****ing shot. All this pathetic rambling about the dangerous of "spike proteins". OK. Only person I've seen talk about this in real life was an otherwise schizophrenic middle aged lady.

We all did what we had to do in the pandemic. If you didn't get vaccinated and was well off - good for you. The rest of us just wanted to go back to a normal life quicker, or to protect our weak and loved ones. If you didn't get vaccinated you made an egoistic decision based on you fears. That speaks greatly of the type of person anti-vaxxers are. The rest of us actually took the risk (everyone knew there was some risk involved) in hopes for a better society and for the safety of others.

I'll admit that I was also a vaccine sceptic when I was browsing misc more than 10 years ago. However I was 17-18 at the time, and then I decided to actually educate myself for real, not just fearmonger on forums and try to "do my own research" from basically pure conformational bias. Once you have your MD you see how deluded most people are trying to understand how science works, or how to read and interpret articles that are way above their level of understanding. This or they echo the opinion of a quack youtube physician trying to make a quick buck feeding contrarian / populistic opinions to the uneducated.

Anyways have fun on your high horse thinking the world is a conspiracy while you're ultimately just making selfish decisions based on uneducated fears.

Peace.
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post 1656958193 02-26-2022, 04:39 PM
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I'm a jabbie fyi.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's not though. The vaccine-encoded spike protein if conformationally differently than the viral spike protein.
Right. The spike protein in the jab is designed specifically to bypass the body's defenses and ends up replicating all over the body. The spike protein in the viral load gets dealt with by the immune system in one way or another.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
Right. The spike protein in the jab is designed specifically to bypass the body's defenses and ends up replicating all over the body. The spike protein in the viral load gets dealt with by the immune system in one way or another.
I don't think that's accurate.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
No dummy. They used mudbloods. You really are autistic.
you are a poor mudblood

why would you get a vax for an illness that doesnt stop you from getting it, transmitting it and that wears off in matter of months and if you are halfway healthy would not cause you any harm in reality.

The risk reward benefit is far too low.......anecdotal maybe but everyone i know who has had COVID recently and in some cases pretty rough have been triple jabbed

if you are COVID recovered as i am from the Alpha variant a year ago before the vax , not getting jabbed now is pretty much a no brainer
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
It's not something you have checked to compare levels. D-Dimer is something we use to rule OUT blood clots. A high D-Dimer does infact not indicate blood clots per say, just infers that there is a risk of it and it must be further controlled. Plenty of factors increase D-Dimers in otherwise clot-free healthy populations such as pregnancy, common colds, age, and more.

-----------------------------------

This is my first post to misc in like a decade. I went from bodybuilding to studying physical therapy and then getting an MD after that. I've worked in the ER throughout the pandemic and I can tell you that I never had a vaccinated patient with double sided pneumonia during the delta times, however there was plenty of unvaccinated elderly who I saw get it and pass away from it as well. Not to speak of those who survived by had a very rough recovery. It's tragic, really.

Long Covid seems to be real from my own anecdotes. That said I did have one patient who seemingly developed myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine. But then again, I sawseveralyoung healthy males (unvaccinated) who suffered from myocarditis after Covid infection. There are scientific studies supporting this as well - the risk of myocarditis after covid is is 14x higher than from the vaccination itself (https://theconversation.com/myocardi...ination-174580scientific studies found in the article).

So I'm just coming here to tell you that the OP stance is ****ed. Vaccinations might have side effects, but considering how many people got vaccinated world wide it's remarkable how little unwanted effects it has had. At the end of the day people like OP just want to find potential reasons to support their stance for not vaccinating themselves - even though it's basically them just being afraid of a ****ing shot. All this pathetic rambling about the dangerous of "spike proteins". OK. Only person I've seen talk about this in real life was an otherwise schizophrenic middle aged lady.

We all did what we had to do in the pandemic. If you didn't get vaccinated and was well off - good for you. The rest of us just wanted to go back to a normal life quicker, or to protect our weak and loved ones. If you didn't get vaccinated you made an egoistic decision based on you fears. That speaks greatly of the type of person anti-vaxxers are. The rest of us actually took the risk (everyone knew there was some risk involved) in hopes for a better society and for the safety of others.

I'll admit that I was also a vaccine sceptic when I was browsing misc more than 10 years ago. However I was 17-18 at the time, and then I decided to actually educate myself for real, not just fearmonger on forums and try to "do my own research" from basically pure conformational bias. Once you have your MD you see how deluded most people are trying to understand how science works, or how to read and interpret articles that are way above their level of understanding. This or they echo the opinion of a quack youtube physician trying to make a quick buck feeding contrarian / populistic opinions to the uneducated.

Anyways have fun on your high horsethinking the world is a conspiracy while you're ultimately just making selfish decisions based on uneducated fears.

Peace.
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
We all did what we had to do in the pandemic. If you didn't get vaccinated and was well off - good for you.The rest of us just wanted to go back to a normal life quicker,or to protect our weak and loved ones. If you didn't get vaccinated you made an egoistic decision based on you fears. That speaks greatly of the type of person anti-vaxxers are. The rest of us actually took the risk (everyone knew there was some risk involved) in hopes for a better society and for the safety of others..
How's that working out? 2 weeks to flatten the curve to where we are now.

Conspiratards were calling out exactly where we would be today, 2 years ago.

Imagine being a fkin MD and thinking that the vaccine will get us back to normal and using that as a rationale to take the vaccine, that's all you need to know these fkin morons.

Or are you still on the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' train? LOL

The MD just shows that you have an education, not that you are intelligent.

Fuk outta here.
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Originally Posted By katya422
And somehow it got out. I think everyone is aware of how that has gone.
How has it gone?
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So fuking happy to have resisted this in canada.

Didnt lose job

Convoyed in my city for almost a month

Freedoms starting to flow in my veins again

Every mandate being taking away


Now will have ukranian hbbs flooding my borders, das it mane
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Originally Posted By LargePeter
So if the vaxx is gonna mess with the liver does that mean jabcels should stop drinking?

I'll stick to C, D3, K2, Zinc, Magnesium and Quercetin to stay healthy

Jabcels should do the same
The irony is taking all that is more like to damage your liver than the vaccine. I don't by any means trust the vaxx. But one study done in vitro isn't some definitive proof.

And even in the animal study it says right in the study it's a temp condition. And the thing about these animal studies is they usually give a dose several orders higher than the equivalent human dose.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Stress on your bodies builds up and over time can lead to all kinds of bad things. You don't die the minute after you eat a Big Mac, but if that a large fry and coke are your daily meals, eventually it will bring you down.

I don't get why all these people who joke around like you don't seem to grasp that. You expose yourself to poison, that's bad. Do the vaccines qualify as that? I don't know, seems like more and more to some degree, yes. I would be concerned if I'd put improperly tested mRNA therapy in myself knowing how shady these companies are, how they withheld so much information, how we know they demanded legal immunity, etc...

I could see the more joking attitude towards someone like Skylinerd posting about vaccines causing magnetism or making bold claims off any shred of flimsy evidence -- but Katy isn't like that at all.
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I just don't really care tbh.

Life is temporary.

As long as I die in my sleep or something, and it isn't painful, let the will of Allah be done.
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Taking advice from 4chan. What could go wrong?
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
You know you're going to die anyway, right?
In what sense? In that eventually we all die, or that there is some kind of nefarious force at play that will swoop down and take all of our lives according to their plan(s)?
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This is actually quite concerning….not that I would ever take any misc thread seriously BUT

I was always against the vaccine…. I had to get 2 Pfizer jabs if I wanted to keep my international tax free six figure job

2 weeks ago I went for my annual health check.

Liver: normal size with normal parenchymatous echogenicity, a small hyperchoic nodule of less than 1cm was discovered in my left lobe liver

The doctor told me it was benign…why after 35 years and no sudden health changes was this discovered in my body??
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Originally Posted By PowerRanger
This is actually quite concerning….not that I would ever take any misc thread seriously BUT

I was always against the vaccine…. I had to get 2 Pfizer jabs if I wanted to keep my international tax free six figure job

2 weeks ago I went for my annual health check.

Liver: normal size with normal parenchymatous echogenicity, a small hyperchoic nodule of less than 1cm was discovered in my left lobe liver

The doctor told me it was benign…why after 35 years and no sudden health changes was this discovered in my body??
there was another female miscer that reported issues with her liver after getting the booster.

the problem is if something does happen you people can't sue or anything lol you literary signed away all your rights when you agreed to take the jab.
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Originally Posted By messomi
there was another female miscer that reported issues with her liver after getting the booster.

the problem is if something does happen you people can't sue or anything lol.
Most people who got vax'd did it out of sheer desperation and fear (for their financial well-being).

Given by the dude you replied to it was sink or swim with his job. ****get was desperate, and knew he probably wouldn't find another opportunity like that again.

If he could have he would have said f getting vax'd.

If you did research on this shyt, before you injected yourself with poison you sure as hell were NOT going to get an mRNA vax. And, you definitely weren't going to get boosted.

I tried to play my cards by doing the bare min. Just enough to get by the authorities.

Am I screwed down the road? Maybe.

If you got an mRNA you really outdid yourself.
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post 1656989823 02-27-2022, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Most people who got vax'd did it out of sheer desperation and fear (for their financial well-being).

Given the dude you replied to it was sink or swim with his job. ****get was desperate, and knew he probably wouldn't find another opportunity like that again.

If he could have he would have said f getting vax'd.

If you did research on this shyt, before you injected yourself with poison you sure as hell were NOT going to get an mRNA vax. And, you definitely weren't going to get boosted.

I tried to play my cards by doing the bare min. Just enough to get my the authorities.

Am I screwed down the road? Maybe.

If you got an mRNA you really outdid yourself.
I wasn't judging you people I am talking about the aftermath of certain choices certain people made in life I completely understand some people were forced to take it.

you don't have to keep defending yourself what I was talking about is that the "vaccine" manufactures made sure you can not sue them or anything if something goes wrong which made everything triple suspicious from the very beginning.

people are acting like this is some sort of wild anti vaxx larp conspiracy but we are talking real serious issues here.
post 1656989913 02-27-2022, 07:09 AM
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FWIW, I posted a wealth of information that the virus was not engineered and occured naturally and OP never got around to addressing it.



I suspect OP is posting copypasta she doesn't really understand.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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