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Originally Posted By Bodhy
FWIW, I posted a wealth of information that the virus was not engineered and occured naturally and OP never got around to addressing it.



I suspect OP is posting copypasta she doesn't really understand.





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Originally Posted By Bodhy
FWIW, I posted a wealth of information that the virus was not engineered and occured naturally and OP never got around to addressing it.


pretty much everyone accepts now that it was gain of function research and came out of the Wuhan lab now numb nutz
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
pretty much everyone accepts now that it was gain of function research and came out of the Wuhan lab now numb nutz
Poor Katy, her thread is about to get derailed by Chitstain.

I'll be brief:

Body, aka Chitstain:
- Admits to smearing chit on walls, washing ass in shower
- Admits to finding young boys more attractive than women
- Proudly explains how to pick up young boy sex slaves and have sex with them
- Is not sure if Big Foot is real or not
- Was exposed as a fraud and liar about his education
- Was exposed as a fraud and a liar about his middle aged inkie single mother girlfriend
- Was exposed as a fraud and a liar about being a bar bouncer
- Can not answer whether using a WWE wrestler's finishing move in a real fight is smart or not

Honestly, just need to copy/paste this to every reply he makes.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
pretty much everyone accepts now that it was gain of function research and came out of the Wuhan lab now numb nutz
That is not true.


I enjoy educating on this topic so I'll post a more thorough explanation of the natural origin when I get back to my computer (out for a walk atm and only have my smartphone).


The reason why I know I'm right is that when it is presented my interlocuters always resort to childish name calling, then take their ball and go home.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
That is not true.





"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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Lmao op you really think any amount of information is going to take down the Pfizer shot? The us government will never admit it did something wrong so they will continue to allow the shots.
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All of the above is still better than being a beavercel.

Just LOL @ beavercels - especially the fancy socks fan club.
The Kangaroocel above provides far more lulz than any moosecel.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy
FWIW, I posted a wealth of information that the virus was not engineered and occured naturally and OP never got around to addressing it.



I suspect OP is posting copypasta she doesn't really understand.
you are retarded if you believe it is natural

when emails from Fauci say otherwise
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Originally Posted By AWillis
you are retarded if you believe it is natural

when emails from Fauci say otherwise
See, this gain of function is hyperbolized all the time by the conspiracy crowd when for the most part, it's just a regular-ass thing in virology and very necessary for vaccinology.

I can lay out the scientific case for the natural origin which > childish name calling.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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hello hello hello
Originally Posted By Underwrought
The irony is taking all that is more like to damage your liver than the vaccine. I don't by any means trust the vaxx.But one study done in vitro isn't some definitive proof.

And even in the animal study it says right in the study it's a temp condition. And the thing about these animal studies is they usually give a dose several orders higher than the equivalent human dose.
1] Of course one study isn't conclusive. However this is one study which was peer reviewed and published which found that this mRNA treatment CAN do something we were assured was not possible and would never never happen- become DNA.

2] I believe that you are conflating two different studies. There was an animal study done by Pfizer which found temporary reduced liver function.

The main study spoken about in the video was done on a human liver cell line, not in rats. AFAIK there wouldn't be a real way to see if the effect is "temporary".

Also, the rat study was looking at liver function via labs [assumption] while this study was looking at genetic material. I'm not sure how you unring that bell, but it is at least possible that affected liver cells don't reproduce sufficiently prior to their death to create a serious issue. I would guess the more likely thing would be that there is a range of reaction based on individual health/genetics/exposure.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm
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Originally Posted By PowerRanger
This is actually quite concerning….not that I would ever take any misc thread seriously BUT

I was always against the vaccine…. I had to get 2 Pfizer jabs if I wanted to keep my international tax free six figure job

2 weeks ago I went for my annual health check.

Liver: normal size with normal parenchymatous echogenicity, a small hyperchoic nodule of less than 1cm was discovered in my left lobe liver

The doctor told me it was benign…why after 35 years and no sudden health changes was this discovered in my body??
You are fortunate to have access to such high quality healthcare. In your place I believe I might consider a biopsy. If it is so tiny it could be a relatively minor laproscopic procedure.
Originally Posted By messomi
there was another female miscer that reported issues with her liver after getting the booster.

the problem is if something does happen you people can't sue or anything lol you literary signed away all your rights when you agreed to take the jab.
Yes, Dustin.

And I do wonder if even a "temporary" effect on liver function may explain people experiencing fatigue, sometimes for long periods.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
That is not true.


I enjoy educating on this topic so I'll post a more thorough explanation of the natural origin when I get back to my computer (out for a walk atm and only have my smartphone).


The reason why I know I'm right is that when it is presented my interlocuters always resort to childish name calling, then take their ball and go home.
I'm not sure why you continue on this crusade to support zoonotic origin. The top scientists that originally published and supported the theory all got big fat payoffs.
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Originally Posted By Peacening
Lmao op you really think any amount of information is going to take down the Pfizer shot? The us government will never admit it did something wrong so they will continue to allow the shots.
At this point I'm worried about how these injections and, yes, maybe the virus too, could change our world going forward- that normal may be pretty awful if large numbers of people are sick/disabled/living with reduced health and functionality.

But thereally big deal?

The governments that want to mandate these mRNA shots for schoolchildren to attend school. This is worth fighting for. The "whatever it takes" sort of fighting for.

Because IF the worst does shake out to be real we don't want the next generation to be f*cked too.

Sorry for so many posts...only way I could get it to work.
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Remember my liver enzymes got elevated after the booster shots? This was before I went on cell tech 2.5 weeks ago.

I was dizzy for an entire month. It sucked.

But what do you do when these are mandated for school children and jobs?

I live in a very liberal area that does this stuff.

I refuse to take another booster but I don't know if it's worth losing my job over as I love my job and well gosh, health or job?!! Who would have ever have thought we'd be like this.
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Imagine being told you're a bad person because you didn't rush to get an experimental vaccine you didn't need


If there's longterm, widespread damage done would a war breakout? Imagine having liver problems and facing the libcuck who forced you to poison yourself to make Pfizer and CNN happy
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Originally Posted By Anachron
It's OK, we know you will take a booster the next time you want to go kayaking.
Oh boy I see you're back. Anachron and SS both went on breaks together. Maybe they went to sunbathing on beaches in Europe together

It's not only to go with my adventure club, bars and restaurants, it's now for jobs and school in my area. Plus I did it because I care for my elderly relatives and they asked me to get it.

We still have to wear masks while most of the rest of California doesn't
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
. Plus I did it because I care for my elderly relatives and they asked me to get it.

We still have to wear masks while most of the rest of California doesn't
no way a younger person should take any medication to protect an older one........thats not how society should work, i would never let my son take an experimental drug to protect me that might have ANY risk to him


me and him are both unvaxxed and will remain so
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Oh look, more vax fear mongering from anti-vax OP and crew.

And of course Bodhy comes in to remind everyone of reality and gets attacked. Shocker.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
no way a younger person should take any medication to protect an older one........thats not how society should work, i would never let my son take an experimental drug to protect me that might have ANY risk to him


me and him are both unvaxxed and will remain so
You actually have a good point. They always say to wear masks and get the vaccine protect the elderly. But now I have elevated enzymes and the booster shot had me sick with flu-like symptoms for 4 days. My friends who had Covid had milder symptoms! I never get fevers like what I've gotten with the second shot and the booster.
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crossposting from another thread:

I also did a little poking about re:lipid nanoparticles which are being used in the shots.

I'm curious if the scale of the LNP is about the same as the scale of the COVID-19 virus particles, or if they are instead smaller.

I found this which could point to what is going on specifically with the mRNA injections and the liver:
A solution came from new lipids that were charged only under certain conditions. During the late ’90s and through the first decade of the 2000s, Cullis, his colleagues at Inex Pharmaceuticals, and the Inex spin-off Protiva Biotherapeutics developed ionizable lipids that are positively charged at an acidic pH but neutral in the blood. The group also created a new way to manufacture nanoparticles with these lipids, using microfluidics to mix lipids dissolved in ethanol with nucleic acids dissolved in an acidic buffer. When the streams of those two solutions merged, the components spontaneously formed lipid nanoparticles, which, unlike the hollow liposomes, were densely packed with lipids and nucleic acids. The process was simple in theory, but getting the machine to reliably spit out consistent LNPs was difficult.

LNPs that looked good in the lab often floundered in the clinic, however. The first versions of ionizable lipids were still toxic. And early formulations of the nanoparticles didn’t degrade fast enough, causing them to accumulate after repeated injections.Protiva found that one of its experimental LNP therapies caused a more severe immune reaction in humans than it had in the lab, and the company pinned pegylated lipids as a major factor.

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But PEG also has liabilities. It prevents LNPs from binding to proteins that help shuttle them into cells. Because PEG extends particles’ life span in the body, the immune system has more time to spot the particles and start mounting an antibody response.And although PEG is found in many cosmetic, drug, and food products, scientists hypothesize that some people could develop antibodies to PEG and that giving those individuals an injection of PEG-coated nanoparticles could trigger an anaphylactic reaction.

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LNPs take advantage of a natural process called receptor-mediated endocytosis to get into cells, Madden explains. Upon binding to a cell, the nanoparticle becomes encapsulated in an even bigger lipid bubble—an organelle called an endosome. The endosome’s acidic interior protonates the heads of the ionizable lipids, making them positively charged. That positive charge triggers a change in the shape of the nanoparticle, which scientists think helps it break free from the endosome and ultimately release its RNA cargo into the cell’s cytoplasm. Once released, the RNA is free to do its job.

The most effective nanoparticles were ones that the body mistook as low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol—commonly called bad cholesterol. Proteins that recognize LDL cholesterol in the blood bound to some of Alnylam’s nanoparticles and carried them to LDL receptors on liver cells, which then caused the cells to engulf the nanoparticles in an endosome.It was the kind of complex interplay that studies in a petri dish missed.
https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/...vaccines/99/i8
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Originally Posted By katya422
hello hello hello



1] Of course one study isn't conclusive. However this is one study which was peer reviewed and published which found that this mRNA treatment CAN do something we were assured was not possible and would never never happen- become DNA.

2] I believe that you are conflating two different studies. There was an animal study done by Pfizer which found temporary reduced liver function.

The main study spoken about in the video was done on a human liver cell line, not in rats. AFAIK there wouldn't be a real way to see if the effect is "temporary".

Also, the rat study was looking at liver function via labs [assumption] while this study was looking at genetic material. I'm not sure how you unring that bell, but it is at least possible that affected liver cells don't reproduce sufficiently prior to their death to create a serious issue. I would guess the more likely thing would be that there is a range of reaction based on individual health/genetics/exposure.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm
Worth noting
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"The cell model that we used in this study is a carcinoma cell line, with active DNA replication which differs from non-dividing ****tic cells. It has also been shown that Huh7 cells display significant different gene and protein expression including upregulated proteins involved in RNA metabolism [56]."

That's a pretty large caveat.

The study they cited as demonstrating integration of the viral genome into cells was published in PNAS by bypassing peer review and has been widely panned as artifact.

They basically forced reverse transcription to happen and then reported that it happened.
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All cause mortality is about to fkn skyrocket. AIDS, myocarditis, all manner of disease is going to blast to the moon and it's all gonna have been caused by these experimental synthetic mRNA injections.

They essentially destroy the human immune system so these vaxxed people are gonna die of pretty much anything.

Strap in boys. And if you've gotten these jabs, time to get your estate in order.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Agreed.

I haven't seen anyone state a trial length that would qualify as "long term data" nor any examples of "typical" vaccine trials which satisfy the "long term data" requirement.
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Speaking of, haven't they been quietly pushing a new vaxpass in America while everyone is distracted with the Ukraine situation
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Originally Posted By PermaNoob
Speaking of, haven't they been quietly pushing a new vaxpass in America while everyone is distracted with the Ukraine situation
yes and they pushed something through pertaining to digital identity while everybody is looking at russia right now.
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Originally Posted By messomi
yes and they pushed something through pertaining to digital identity while everybody is looking at russia right now.


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This I saw.
VACCINE PASSPORT TECH GOES RED: Several Republican-leaning states that had rejected so-called vaccine passports over fears they limited freedom are now embracing the technology behind them.

At least five states with bans on “passports” or governor opposition to them — Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, Oklahoma and Utah — are developing or have already rolled out the technology. But they’re largely doing it quietly and for slightly different reasons.

The benefits they see: With some places in the U.S. like New York City requiring proof of vaccination for indoor dining and events, and countries mandating the information for entry, residents in these states might need it to travel. Plus, adopting the technology allows for access to health records in a digital format, state officials say.

“We're starting to see some jurisdictions that had a very strict stance, ‘We're not going to put any QR codes on anything,’ look at this again with fresh eyes and say, ‘Okay, this really isn't a passport. This is really just an evolution of a record moving into the digital age,’” said Rebecca Coyle, executive director of the American Immunization Registry Association.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters...ports-00010875

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This I hadn't been following.
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