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post 1657051893 02-28-2022, 07:48 AM
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Lmao so much fanboy cope ITT.
Game is mediocre as fk and so over hyped.
post 1657052163 02-28-2022, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Lmao so much fanboy cope ITT.
Game is mediocre as fk and so over hyped.
You can tell who has invested their self-worth into it. Sad!
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I personally am not a big fan of Fromsoft games and an actually sad they went back to DS combat instead of Sekiro combat.

I prefer Souls-Like titles like Fallen Order, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. Those games where the game is still challenging, but it balances out the fun factor to me. IMO, FS games are more stressful than fun, it's hard to wind down and zone out in these games (I understand this is by design) so for my personal preference, they are lower down my personal lists.

Not saying this game isn't great, but I do feel like FS games are offered conveniences not afforded to other titles when it comes to game reviews. To me, they're like Oscar movies. They're made for a very specific crowd, likely not going to be the mass appeal game of the year, but will be the critical game of the year and everyone who enjoys them will tell you you're crazy for not playing them.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
My god do you have a meltdown every time you encounter a contrary opinion? Go hang out on some circle jerkoff site like reddit if you only want to be exposed to like-minded takes on everything.
Everything about you is "contrary". You dont have any enjoyment in anything and it completely reeks in all your posts which consist of complaining about video games and life.
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post 1657053583 02-28-2022, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By WHChampion
Bosses don't have "absurd health" in these games. You don't need perfect dodges either. You just need to keep calm and not crack.

Bosses should be menacing and to be menacing they need to give some challenge. Just rolling over bosses in the first attempt because the game is designed for consoomers to move onto the next product is not it mane.
Yeah I get what you're saying. This game is good for people who want a challenge in an offline setting. But the combat is really simple, and it mostly does come down to patience and timing.


I play mostly online games and it's hard for me to find joy or accomplishment fighting ai, regardless of how "hard" it is. To me it's always going to be more rewarding besting another human via online gameplay. Knowing I'm beating a thinking human who's not just programmed to do the same thing on repeat. At the end of the day ai enemies will always be easy to beat because you know exactly how to do it. FS games just test the patience you have to do it. And to me that's not really rewarding gameplay. It's just a bootleg difficulty designed to punish its players.

Just not my cup of tea I guess.



Side note: honestly some of these fights look literally dumb as ****. Brb huge giant boss and I'm killing him by poking his leg with a sword, rolling to the side, poke again, roll to the side, poke again.

I watched xqc best the last boss of elden ring, looked so ****in dumb and was wildly anti climactic on top of it.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Yeah I get what you're saying. This game is good for people who want a challenge in an offline setting. But the combat is really simple, and it mostly does come down to patience and timing.


I play mostly online games and it's hard for me to find joy or accomplishment fighting ai, regardless of how "hard" it is. To me it's always going to be more rewarding besting another human via online gameplay. Knowing I'm beating a thinking human who's not just programmed to do the same thing on repeat. At the end of the day ai enemies will always be easy to beat because you know exactly how to do it. FS games just test the patience you have to do it. And to me that's not really rewarding gameplay. It's just a bootleg difficulty designed to punish its players.

Just not my cup of tea I guess.



Side note: honestly some of these fights look literally dumb as ****. Brb huge giant boss and I'm killing him by poking his leg with a sword, rolling to the side, poke again, roll to the side, poke again.

I watched xqc best the last boss of elden ring, looked so ****in dumb and was wildly anti climactic on top of it.
I’ve watched a lot from this game, trying to understand the hype as I was thinking about picking it up.

Haven’t seen anything at all that makes me want to buy it in the slightest…even if it didn’t look like it should have released in 2010.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
I personally am not a big fan of Fromsoft games and an actually sad they went back to DS combat instead of Sekiro combat.

I prefer Souls-Like titles like Fallen Order, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. Those games where the game is still challenging, but it balances out the fun factor to me. IMO, FS games are more stressful than fun, it's hard to wind down and zone out in these games (I understand this is by design) so for my personal preference, they are lower down my personal lists.

Not saying this game isn't great, but I do feel like FS games are offered conveniences not afforded to other titles when it comes to game reviews. To me, they're like Oscar movies. They're made for a very specific crowd, likely not going to be the mass appeal game of the year, but will be the critical game of the year and everyone who enjoys them will tell you you're crazy for not playing them.
Now that's something I can relate to. I also prefer games like Ghost of Tsushima, which was probably my favorite PS4 exclusive, and one of the few that I really liked. I think the reason for that is simple, they made it accessible and gave me a world that I could get lost in and zone out with. Like they actually did a good job of trying to recreate a real historical setting that was beautiful to look at and explore. You bring up Sekiro which was one of the few FS games that appealed to me, but even then Ghost is what I really wanted and as soon as that came along I forgot about Sekiro.

All this bullchit regarding gamer community popularity and award shows is pretty much the video gaming equivalent of Oscar movies as you said. A lot of it tends to be niche crowd type of material, and it's praised either for fan service or how certain things about it manage to appeal to the journalists and awards community. So with that said it's not something I find myself concerned with.

As for this thread, I just think it's ridiculous how some fans feel a need to come here and attack people for being critical of the game. I mean that is what this thread was obviously intended to convey. We already got numerous threads dedicated to either praising the game or discussing it among fans, so I don't see what the problem is.
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Everything about you is "contrary". You dont have any enjoyment in anything and it completely reeks in all your posts which consist of complaining about video games and life.
Dude, not everybody is going to like everything. It's not like I am going to the main thread for this game and trying to slam it there, you're the one barging into a thread that was critical of it just to insult everyone.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Dude, not everybody is going to like everything. It's not like I am going to the main thread for this game and trying to slam it there, you're the one barging into a thread that was critical of it just to insult everyone.
Even though that is literally the behavior you have exhibited here for thousands of posts, only recently ceasing probably because it's been pointed out to you so often.
post 1657054613 02-28-2022, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Yeah I get what you're saying. This game is good for people who want a challenge in an offline setting. But the combat is really simple, and it mostly does come down to patience and timing.


I play mostly online games and it's hard for me to find joy or accomplishment fighting ai, regardless of how "hard" it is. To me it's always going to be more rewarding besting another human via online gameplay. Knowing I'm beating a thinking human who's not just programmed to do the same thing on repeat. At the end of the day ai enemies will always be easy to beat because you know exactly how to do it. FS games just test the patience you have to do it. And to me that's not really rewarding gameplay. It's just a bootleg difficulty designed to punish its players.

Just not my cup of tea I guess.
Honestly, no matter what, when it comes to video games, all the difficulty is found in the simple mastery of the game it's self. It doesn't matter what you are facing, IA, human players, just the game it's self, the only challenge is being good at it. Naturally experience pays off heavily in that regard, and experience involves building up your memory. If you're facing off against humans it's all about knowing the game better than they do. If you're playing AI it's all about understanding all the quirks of the game and how to exploit them. Either way you're putting a lot of time and attention into your mastery of it. The only thing you should be asking is what you're getting out of it.
Originally Posted By freeburn
Side note: honestly some of these fights look literally dumb as ****. Brb huge giant boss and I'm killing him by poking his leg with a sword, rolling to the side, poke again, roll to the side, poke again.

I watched xqc best the last boss of elden ring, looked so ****in dumb and was wildly anti climactic on top of it.
I love how you brought this up because this is something that I was always thinking to myself whenever I see that kinda chit in video games. I always thought it was just dumb as hell and looked dumb as hell. For some reason there has always been all these dudes who seem to think that kinda chit is appealing, but I could never get it. That's what I loved about Ghost of Tsushima, I was actually fighting humans not some giant monster boss things that you just hack away at the shins of.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Unpopular opinion but I think the game is over hyped and the whole "hardest games ever made" is fukkin dumb. Anyone can make a single player game and ramp up the difficulty and health of bosses.

I don't buy into the faux difficulty of games like this. Making bosses with absurd health that you have to fight for a long ass time just basically trying to have perfect dodges/blocks/attacks is just kind of a "meh" way to make a game difficult. It just feels cheap to me.
Well it’s a good thing elden ring isn’t difficult due to enemies being “bullet sponges” then. They are difficult because it requires precision and reflexes
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what an edgy contrarian
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Well to be fair it does look like a reskinned and asset flipped DS with an open world gimmick. Honestly have no idea what's supposed to be mindblowing about it, it seems like a step back from Sekiro.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
Well it’s a good thing elden ring isn’t difficult due to enemies being “bullet sponges” then. They are difficult because it requires precision and reflexes
It's just another way of being a bullet sponge. It's the same cheap tactic used in a different way to extend fights and add difficulty.

OK so you don't have to sit there and shoot your enemy for 20 mins, instead you spend 20 minutes rolling and blocking waiting to score the odd sword hit when the boss allows it. Just a "bullet sponge" in a different format.

Same ****, different toilet.
post 1657060393 02-28-2022, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn
It's just another way of being a bullet sponge. It's the same cheap tactic used in a different way to extend fights and add difficulty.

OK so you don't have to sit there and shoot your enemy for 20 mins, instead you spend 20 minutes rolling and blocking waiting to score the odd sword hit when the boss allows it. Just a "bullet sponge" in a different format.

Same ****, different toilet.
Bro it requires precision and reflexes, bro!!
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I love fighting huge monsters! I'm not sure it's gonna be a 10/10 for me but I'm gonna play the chit out of it just for the cool fantasy setting and cool monsters. And how fun optimizing my build would be.

Yall are taking this wayyy too serious.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
It's just another way of being a bullet sponge. It's the same cheap tactic used in a different way to extend fights and add difficulty.

OK so you don't have to sit there and shoot your enemy for 20 mins, instead you spend 20 minutes rolling and blocking waiting to score the odd sword hit when the boss allows it. Just a "bullet sponge" in a different format.

Same ****, different toilet.
I don’t see it as the same at all. With a bullet sponge enemy it makes it seem as though you are shooting with literal snowballs. I have not felt that way with from software enemies

What makes a good, challenging boss fight? You are making it seem like only multiplayer shooter type enemy encounters are what is good game design, where the interaction is over within seconds
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
I don’t see it as the same at all. With a bullet sponge enemy it makes it seem as though you are shooting with literal snowballs. I have not felt that way with from software enemies

What makes a good, challenging boss fight? You are making it seem like only multiplayer shooter type enemy encounters are what is good game design, where the interaction is over within seconds
You must be new to Freeburner. Whatever he likes is good. Everything else is bad. And everyone who likes everything else is wrong.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
You must be new to Freeburner. Whatever he likes is good. Everything else is bad. And everyone who likes everything else is wrong.
What itt gives you that impression? No one's here talking ****. I just simply don't enjoy the game style. Didn't say it was bad one time. Didn't say anyone was wrong for enjoying it. Just said I think it's a cheap way to make a game difficult.

This is called discussion, we share our opinions even if they differ from someone else's. Quote one post of mine itt that said this game is bad, or that anyone's wrong for enjoying it. You just wish I fit into your narrative of being argumentative in every thread when I'm just simply not. I didn't even enter the actual elden ring threads one time to share my unpopular opinion, and only shared it here, in a thread about not liking the game, though it is a bit of a troll thread.


You could have simply said nothing and let me and ScramFranklin converse about our opinions on the matter, but instead you continuously post about me across multiple threads when we aren't even interacting/talking/quoting eachother...just to get my attention? Idk what joy it brings you but it's odd.

I try to take this forum section thread by thread, so I try not to stray from the subject matter of the thread. If I hurt your feelings so many times you need to constantly prod at me, Im sorry bro, things will be OK. But there's really no reason to come in here and start talking about me to someone else, with blatant lies no less, unless you just want to start ****. Which is exactly what you all give Jay **** about constantly. Ironic.


That being said do you have anything to say about elden ring or did you just come in this thread just to dick ride me some more?
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Originally Posted By freeburn
What itt gives you that impression? No one's here talking ****. I just simply don't enjoy the game style. Didn't say it was bad one time. Didn't say anyone was wrong for enjoying it. Just said I think it's a cheap way to make a game difficult.

This is called discussion, we share our opinions even if they differ from someone else's. Quote one post of mine itt that said this game is bad, or that anyone's wrong for enjoying it. You just wish I fit into your narrative of being argumentative in every thread when I'm just simply not. I didn't even enter the actual elden ring threads one time to share my unpopular opinion, and only shared it here, in a thread about not liking the game, though it is a bit of a troll thread.


You could have simply said nothing and let me and ScramFranklin converse about our opinions on the matter, but instead you continuously post about me across multiple threads when we aren't even interacting/talking/quoting eachother...just to get my attention? Idk what joy it brings you but it's odd.

I try to take this forum section thread by thread, so I try not to stray from the subject matter of the thread. If I hurt your feelings so many times you need to constantly prod at me, Im sorry bro, things will be OK. But there's really no reason to come in here and start talking about me to someone else, with blatant lies no less, unless you just want to start ****. Which is exactly what you all give Jay **** about constantly. Ironic.


That being said do you have anything to say about elden ring or did you just come in this thread just to dick ride me some more?
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Strong meltdown.

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So dick ride, got it
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you people are so delusional and hateful, that i am glad yall possess the superpower to not be able to talk to women, and much less procreate.

nothing wrong with the game, its your life thats lacking.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Disagree. I think a next generation masterpiece of the decade should have fantastic art style and fantastic graphics for the year it's released. As well as be very well optimized.

And again, I played all the souls games and I'm a huge fan.
Elden rings art style is great, the graphics are not but the game is beautiful style wise.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
It's just another way of being a bullet sponge. It's the same cheap tactic used in a different way to extend fights and add difficulty.

OK so you don't have to sit there and shoot your enemy for 20 mins, instead you spend 20 minutes rolling and blocking waiting to score the odd sword hit when the boss allows it. Just a "bullet sponge" in a different format.

Same ****, different toilet.
I actually agree with you, I've always thought the souls Bourne chit is bs and still do. But the open world format in this game is fantastic and it's fun.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Modern man, faced with challenge, give up.
I definitely understand wanting to play games that are more fun and relaxed. I'm that way that's why I never really tried from games (I did buy Sekiro but only barely started it recently).

But I feel bad for anyone missing out because they're too afraid or can't cut it. Some things are worth getting out your comfort zone for
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Op is speaking some truth graphics wise. Game doesn't look very good. I edited the settings some and it's decent, but not next gen. You can thank the recent games for that. And Demon Souls is still one of the best current gen looking games.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Elden rings art style is great, the graphics are not but the game is beautiful style wise.
Yeah I stated that exactly in this thread to distinguish when a miscer said the art style was nice which means the graphics were also nice. They're not the same thing which was my point. I've played all the souls games, the art style is next level.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
So dick ride, got it
The dude pulls the same bullchit all the time. He's basically that guy who is constantly getting in fights with everyone who acts like everyone else is the problem all the time. He's quick to start chit, quick to make it personal, then when he gets called out he retreats to some juvenile form of mockery and projections for even addressing his antics. It's why I just ignore him most of the time, he's just some wannabe punkass e-bully and his game is always getting a rise out of people, pretty much your classic forum troll. Just put him on your ignore list, life is too short to concern yourself with such idiots.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Yeah I stated that exactly in this thread to distinguish when a miscer said the art style was nice which means the graphics were also nice. They're not the same thing which was my point. I've played all the souls games, the art style is next level.
There is little more personal than a preference for art style.
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