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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Nice try, neonazi fanboy.Your dumbass thinks a NAZI group needs to get help on the social media propaganda side.You don't realize these men don't care what people say about them. Having them bombed does NOTHING for Azov either. So yes, I think Russia did it. Lets do a perm ban bet on it officially being confirmed on who did it eh?
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ISW update 19 March 2022. As usual, bold is my emphasis.
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-march-19
Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war. That campaign aimed to conduct airborne and mechanized operations to seize Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odesa, and other major Ukrainian cities to force a change of government in Ukraine. That campaign has culminated. Russian forces continue to make limited advances in some parts of the theater but are very unlikely to be able to seize their objectives in this way. The doctrinally sound Russian response to this situation would be to end this campaign, accept a possibly lengthy operational pause, develop the plan for a new campaign, build up resources for that new campaign, and launch it when the resources and other conditions are ready. The Russian military has not yet adopted this approach. It is instead continuing to feed small collections of reinforcements into an ongoing effort to keep the current campaign alive. We assess that that effort will fail.
The ultimate fall of Mariupol is increasingly unlikely to free up enough Russian combat power to change the outcome of the initial campaign dramatically. Russian forces concentrated considerable combat power around Mariupol drawn from the 8th Combined Arms Army to the east and from the group of Russian forces in Crimea to the west. Had the Russians taken Mariupol quickly or with relatively few losses they would likely have been able to move enough combat power west toward Zaporizhiya and Dnipro to threaten those cities. The protracted siege of Mariupol is seriously weakening Russian forces on that axis, however. The confirmed death of the commander of the Russian 150th Motorized Rifle Division likely indicates the scale of the damage Ukrainian defenders are inflicting on those formations. The block-by-block fighting in Mariupol itself is costing the Russian military time, initiative, and combat power. If and when Mariupol ultimately falls the Russian forces now besieging it may not be strong enough to change the course of the campaign dramatically by attacking to the west
Russian forces in the south appear to be focusing on a drive toward Kryvyi Rih, presumably to isolate and then take Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west but are unlikely to secure any of those cities in the coming weeks if at all. Kryvyi Rih is a city of more than 600,000 and heavily fortified according to the head of its military administration. Zaporizhiya and Dnipro are also large. The Russian military has been struggling to take Mariupol, smaller than any of them, since the start of the war with more combat power than it is currently pushing toward Kryvyi Rih. The Russian advance on that axis is thus likely to bog down as all other Russian advances on major cities have done.
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-march-19
Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war. That campaign aimed to conduct airborne and mechanized operations to seize Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odesa, and other major Ukrainian cities to force a change of government in Ukraine. That campaign has culminated. Russian forces continue to make limited advances in some parts of the theater but are very unlikely to be able to seize their objectives in this way. The doctrinally sound Russian response to this situation would be to end this campaign, accept a possibly lengthy operational pause, develop the plan for a new campaign, build up resources for that new campaign, and launch it when the resources and other conditions are ready. The Russian military has not yet adopted this approach. It is instead continuing to feed small collections of reinforcements into an ongoing effort to keep the current campaign alive. We assess that that effort will fail.
The ultimate fall of Mariupol is increasingly unlikely to free up enough Russian combat power to change the outcome of the initial campaign dramatically. Russian forces concentrated considerable combat power around Mariupol drawn from the 8th Combined Arms Army to the east and from the group of Russian forces in Crimea to the west. Had the Russians taken Mariupol quickly or with relatively few losses they would likely have been able to move enough combat power west toward Zaporizhiya and Dnipro to threaten those cities. The protracted siege of Mariupol is seriously weakening Russian forces on that axis, however. The confirmed death of the commander of the Russian 150th Motorized Rifle Division likely indicates the scale of the damage Ukrainian defenders are inflicting on those formations. The block-by-block fighting in Mariupol itself is costing the Russian military time, initiative, and combat power. If and when Mariupol ultimately falls the Russian forces now besieging it may not be strong enough to change the course of the campaign dramatically by attacking to the west
Russian forces in the south appear to be focusing on a drive toward Kryvyi Rih, presumably to isolate and then take Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west but are unlikely to secure any of those cities in the coming weeks if at all. Kryvyi Rih is a city of more than 600,000 and heavily fortified according to the head of its military administration. Zaporizhiya and Dnipro are also large. The Russian military has been struggling to take Mariupol, smaller than any of them, since the start of the war with more combat power than it is currently pushing toward Kryvyi Rih. The Russian advance on that axis is thus likely to bog down as all other Russian advances on major cities have done.
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The Russian military continues to commit small groups of reinforcements to localized fighting rather than concentrating them to launch new large-scale operations. Russia continues to commit units drawn from its naval infantry from all fleets, likely because those units are relatively more combat-ready than rank-and-file Russian regiments and brigades. The naval infantry belonging to the Black Sea Fleet is likely the largest single pool of ready reserve forces the Russian military has not yet committed. Much of that naval infantry has likely been embarked on amphibious landing ships off the Odesa coast since early in the war, presumably ready to land near Odesa as soon as Russian forces from Crimea secured a reliable ground line of communication (GLOC) from Crimea to Odesa. The likelihood that Russian forces from Crimea will establish such a GLOC in the near future is becoming remote, however, and the Russian military has apparently begun using elements of the Black Sea Fleet naval infantry to reinforce efforts to take Mariupol.
The culmination of the initial Russian campaign is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of Ukraine. Russian forces are digging in around the periphery of Kyiv and elsewhere, attempting to consolidate political control over areas they currently occupy, resupplying and attempting to reinforce units in static positions, and generally beginning to set conditions to hold in approximately their current forward positions for an indefinite time. Maxar imagery of Russian forces digging trenches and revetments in Kyiv Oblast over the past several days supports this assessment.[1] Comments by Duma members about forcing Ukraine to surrender by exhaustion in May could reflect a revised Russian approach to ending this conflict on terms favorable to Moscow.
Stalemate will likely be very violent and bloody, especially if it protracts. Stalemate is not armistice or ceasefire. It is a condition in war in which each side conducts offensive operations that do not fundamentally alter the situation. Those operations can be very damaging and cause enormous casualties. The World War I battles of the Somme, Verdun, and Passchendaele were all fought in conditions of stalemate and did not break the stalemate. If the war in Ukraine settles into a stalemate condition Russian forces will continue to bomb and bombard Ukrainian cities, devastating them and killing civilians, even as Ukrainian forces impose losses on Russian attackers and conduct counter-attacks of their own. The Russians could hope to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting under such circumstances by demonstrating Kyiv’s inability to expel Russian forces or stop their attacks even if the Russians are demonstrably unable to take Ukraine’s cities. Ukraine’s defeat of the initial Russian campaign may therefore set conditions for a devastating protraction of the conflict and a dangerous new period testing the resolve of Ukraine and the West. Continued and expanded Western support to Ukraine will be vital to seeing Ukraine through that new period.
Key Takeaways:
We now assess that the initial Russian campaign to seize Ukraine’s capital and major cities and force regime change has failed;
Russian forces continue efforts to restore momentum to this culminated campaign, but those efforts will likely also fail;
Russian troops will continue trying to advance to within effective artillery range of the center of Kyiv, but prospects for their success are unclear;
The war will likely descend into a phase of bloody stalemate that could last for weeks or months;
Russia will expand efforts to bombard Ukrainian civilians in order to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting (at which the Russians will likely fail);
The most dangerous current Russian advance is from Kherson north toward Kryvyi Rih in an effort to isolate Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west. Russian forces are unlikely to be able to surround or take Kryvyi Rih in the coming days, and may not be able to do so at all without massing much larger forces for the effort than they now have available on that axis;
The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.
The culmination of the initial Russian campaign is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of Ukraine. Russian forces are digging in around the periphery of Kyiv and elsewhere, attempting to consolidate political control over areas they currently occupy, resupplying and attempting to reinforce units in static positions, and generally beginning to set conditions to hold in approximately their current forward positions for an indefinite time. Maxar imagery of Russian forces digging trenches and revetments in Kyiv Oblast over the past several days supports this assessment.[1] Comments by Duma members about forcing Ukraine to surrender by exhaustion in May could reflect a revised Russian approach to ending this conflict on terms favorable to Moscow.
Stalemate will likely be very violent and bloody, especially if it protracts. Stalemate is not armistice or ceasefire. It is a condition in war in which each side conducts offensive operations that do not fundamentally alter the situation. Those operations can be very damaging and cause enormous casualties. The World War I battles of the Somme, Verdun, and Passchendaele were all fought in conditions of stalemate and did not break the stalemate. If the war in Ukraine settles into a stalemate condition Russian forces will continue to bomb and bombard Ukrainian cities, devastating them and killing civilians, even as Ukrainian forces impose losses on Russian attackers and conduct counter-attacks of their own. The Russians could hope to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting under such circumstances by demonstrating Kyiv’s inability to expel Russian forces or stop their attacks even if the Russians are demonstrably unable to take Ukraine’s cities. Ukraine’s defeat of the initial Russian campaign may therefore set conditions for a devastating protraction of the conflict and a dangerous new period testing the resolve of Ukraine and the West. Continued and expanded Western support to Ukraine will be vital to seeing Ukraine through that new period.
Key Takeaways:
We now assess that the initial Russian campaign to seize Ukraine’s capital and major cities and force regime change has failed;
Russian forces continue efforts to restore momentum to this culminated campaign, but those efforts will likely also fail;
Russian troops will continue trying to advance to within effective artillery range of the center of Kyiv, but prospects for their success are unclear;
The war will likely descend into a phase of bloody stalemate that could last for weeks or months;
Russia will expand efforts to bombard Ukrainian civilians in order to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting (at which the Russians will likely fail);
The most dangerous current Russian advance is from Kherson north toward Kryvyi Rih in an effort to isolate Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west. Russian forces are unlikely to be able to surround or take Kryvyi Rih in the coming days, and may not be able to do so at all without massing much larger forces for the effort than they now have available on that axis;
The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.
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Originally Posted By Mr
The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.The Russian military continues to commit small groups of reinforcements to localized fighting rather than concentrating them to launch new large-scale operations. Russia continues to commit units drawn from its naval infantry from all fleets, likely because those units are relatively more combat-ready than rank-and-file Russian regiments and brigades. The naval infantry belonging to the Black Sea Fleet is likely the largest single pool of ready reserve forces the Russian military has not yet committed. Much of that naval infantry has likely been embarked on amphibious landing ships off the Odesa coast since early in the war, presumably ready to land near Odesa as soon as Russian forces from Crimea secured a reliable ground line of communication (GLOC) from Crimea to Odesa. The likelihood that Russian forces from Crimea will establish such a GLOC in the near future is becoming remote, however, and the Russian military has apparently begun using elements of the Black Sea Fleet naval infantry to reinforce efforts to take Mariupol.
The culmination of the initial Russian campaign is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of Ukraine. Russian forces are digging in around the periphery of Kyiv and elsewhere, attempting to consolidate political control over areas they currently occupy, resupplying and attempting to reinforce units in static positions, and generally beginning to set conditions to hold in approximately their current forward positions for an indefinite time. Maxar imagery of Russian forces digging trenches and revetments in Kyiv Oblast over the past several days supports this assessment.[1] Comments by Duma members about forcing Ukraine to surrender by exhaustion in May could reflect a revised Russian approach to ending this conflict on terms favorable to Moscow.
Stalemate will likely be very violent and bloody, especially if it protracts. Stalemate is not armistice or ceasefire. It is a condition in war in which each side conducts offensive operations that do not fundamentally alter the situation. Those operations can be very damaging and cause enormous casualties. The World War I battles of the Somme, Verdun, and Passchendaele were all fought in conditions of stalemate and did not break the stalemate. If the war in Ukraine settles into a stalemate condition Russian forces will continue to bomb and bombard Ukrainian cities, devastating them and killing civilians, even as Ukrainian forces impose losses on Russian attackers and conduct counter-attacks of their own. The Russians could hope to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting under such circumstances by demonstrating Kyiv’s inability to expel Russian forces or stop their attacks even if the Russians are demonstrably unable to take Ukraine’s cities. Ukraine’s defeat of the initial Russian campaign may therefore set conditions for a devastating protraction of the conflict and a dangerous new period testing the resolve of Ukraine and the West. Continued and expanded Western support to Ukraine will be vital to seeing Ukraine through that new period.
Key Takeaways:
We now assess that the initial Russian campaign to seize Ukraine’s capital and major cities and force regime change has failed;
Russian forces continue efforts to restore momentum to this culminated campaign, but those efforts will likely also fail;
Russian troops will continue trying to advance to within effective artillery range of the center of Kyiv, but prospects for their success are unclear;
The war will likely descend into a phase of bloody stalemate that could last for weeks or months;
Russia will expand efforts to bombard Ukrainian civilians in order to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting (at which the Russians will likely fail);
The most dangerous current Russian advance is from Kherson north toward Kryvyi Rih in an effort to isolate Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west. Russian forces are unlikely to be able to surround or take Kryvyi Rih in the coming days, and may not be able to do so at all without massing much larger forces for the effort than they now have available on that axis;
The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.
The culmination of the initial Russian campaign is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of Ukraine. Russian forces are digging in around the periphery of Kyiv and elsewhere, attempting to consolidate political control over areas they currently occupy, resupplying and attempting to reinforce units in static positions, and generally beginning to set conditions to hold in approximately their current forward positions for an indefinite time. Maxar imagery of Russian forces digging trenches and revetments in Kyiv Oblast over the past several days supports this assessment.[1] Comments by Duma members about forcing Ukraine to surrender by exhaustion in May could reflect a revised Russian approach to ending this conflict on terms favorable to Moscow.
Stalemate will likely be very violent and bloody, especially if it protracts. Stalemate is not armistice or ceasefire. It is a condition in war in which each side conducts offensive operations that do not fundamentally alter the situation. Those operations can be very damaging and cause enormous casualties. The World War I battles of the Somme, Verdun, and Passchendaele were all fought in conditions of stalemate and did not break the stalemate. If the war in Ukraine settles into a stalemate condition Russian forces will continue to bomb and bombard Ukrainian cities, devastating them and killing civilians, even as Ukrainian forces impose losses on Russian attackers and conduct counter-attacks of their own. The Russians could hope to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting under such circumstances by demonstrating Kyiv’s inability to expel Russian forces or stop their attacks even if the Russians are demonstrably unable to take Ukraine’s cities. Ukraine’s defeat of the initial Russian campaign may therefore set conditions for a devastating protraction of the conflict and a dangerous new period testing the resolve of Ukraine and the West. Continued and expanded Western support to Ukraine will be vital to seeing Ukraine through that new period.
Key Takeaways:
We now assess that the initial Russian campaign to seize Ukraine’s capital and major cities and force regime change has failed;
Russian forces continue efforts to restore momentum to this culminated campaign, but those efforts will likely also fail;
Russian troops will continue trying to advance to within effective artillery range of the center of Kyiv, but prospects for their success are unclear;
The war will likely descend into a phase of bloody stalemate that could last for weeks or months;
Russia will expand efforts to bombard Ukrainian civilians in order to break Ukrainians’ will to continue fighting (at which the Russians will likely fail);
The most dangerous current Russian advance is from Kherson north toward Kryvyi Rih in an effort to isolate Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west. Russian forces are unlikely to be able to surround or take Kryvyi Rih in the coming days, and may not be able to do so at all without massing much larger forces for the effort than they now have available on that axis;
The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.
FUKKING LOL, what happened to the dozen warships with ambitious assault units Russia had?
The key take away is this hasn't went according to plan at all, not a single part of it. They have no idea what to do now to continue any meaningful assault so they have two options, 1. Keep sending men to die for no reason 2. Stall for weeks and regroup and plan. Plan 2 requires RESOURCES, which seem extremely hard for Russia to come by right now. It also gives WEEKS for Kiev and other regions to resupply over a BILLION dollars in equipment.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Well yeah, that's the takeaway "Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war."The Russians appear to have abandoned plans to attack Odesa at least in the near term.
FUKKING LOL, what happened to the dozen warships with ambitious assault units Russia had?
The key take away is this hasn't went according to plan at all, not a single part of it. They have no idea what to do now to continue any meaningful assault so they have two options, 1. Keep sending men to die for no reason 2. Stall for weeks and regroup and plan. Plan 2 requires RESOURCES, which seem extremely hard for Russia to come by right now. It also gives WEEKS for Kiev and other regions to resupply over a BILLION dollars in equipment.
FUKKING LOL, what happened to the dozen warships with ambitious assault units Russia had?
The key take away is this hasn't went according to plan at all, not a single part of it. They have no idea what to do now to continue any meaningful assault so they have two options, 1. Keep sending men to die for no reason 2. Stall for weeks and regroup and plan. Plan 2 requires RESOURCES, which seem extremely hard for Russia to come by right now. It also gives WEEKS for Kiev and other regions to resupply over a BILLION dollars in equipment.
The fukked up thing is that now it's just going to be a stupid meatgrind that does nothing except kill people and break things for weeks if not months unless Putin decides to get real at the negotiating table.
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Yeah I guess after seeing their elite paratroopers getting chopped to bits trying and failing to seize Kiev, the Russians changed their mind about sending elite amphibious units into Odessa.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
What do you think will happen as soon as they hit the air? Why do you think they towed them in the first place? LMAO bro.Russian helicopters arriving.
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Originally Posted By Mr
I'm almost positive Russia's "Paratroopers" one of their most elite military groups, has for all intents and purposes been completely destroyed. They tried two waves of it on Kiev, and they were killed within hours.Well yeah, that's the takeaway "Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war."
The fukked up thing is that now it's just going to be a stupid meatgrind that does nothing except kill people and break things for weeks if not months unless Putin decides to get real at the negotiating table.
EDIT
Yeah I guess after seeing their elite paratroopers getting chopped to bits trying and failing to seize Kiev, the Russians changed their mind about sending elite amphibious units into Odessa.
The fukked up thing is that now it's just going to be a stupid meatgrind that does nothing except kill people and break things for weeks if not months unless Putin decides to get real at the negotiating table.
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Yeah I guess after seeing their elite paratroopers getting chopped to bits trying and failing to seize Kiev, the Russians changed their mind about sending elite amphibious units into Odessa.
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Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
Why didn't they draw this over Kiev? You realize that Crimea has been controlled by Russia since 2014, right? And you think that is something to BRAG about? You are a complete fukking idiot.So thats a NO on the perm ban bet on who bombed the threate in Mauripol right?
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None of this makes any sense. Why tf would you invade a country with such a chit tier military.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
Their inability to anticipate drone use is a huge red flag. It's like Russia has absolutely not fukking idea what modern warfare is. They stepped straight out of the year 2000.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
Originally Posted By chalup⏩
None of this adds up. There has to be something significant we don't know srs.Memcop said they controlled the air within the first 24 hours, amazing how he just stopped responding about anything he posted.
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
Their inability to anticipate drone use is a huge red flag. It's like Russia has absolutely not fukking idea what modern warfare is. They stepped straight out of the year 2000.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
It does add up. Poots thought that Ukraine WANTED to be a part of Russia, akin to Crimea and Donbass. This is what he is TOLD by people around him, his people has LIED to him for decades because they thought they would be KILLED if they didn't tell him what he wanted to hear.None of this makes any sense. Why tf would you invade a country with such a chit tier military.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
None of this adds up. There has to be something significant we don't know srs.
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
None of this adds up. There has to be something significant we don't know srs.
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
He dropped paratroopers in Kiev in the first 4 hours of the invasion, these men were shot out of the fukking sky en masse'. Poots was lied to about everything because he is a DICTATOR.
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[QUOTE=chalup post_id=1658235663]What do you think will happen as soon as they hit the air? Why do you think they towed them in the first place? LMAO bro.[/QUOTE]Nice intelligent technical analyze / 10. Uks will win, trust me bro, while each day they lose more territory, have more casualties, and what not.
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
[QUOTE=Mr Beer post_id=1658235023]The Russian military has been struggling to take Mariupol, smaller than any of them, since the start of the war with more combat power than it is currently pushing toward Kryvyi Rih. The Russian advance on that axis is thus likely to bog down as all other Russian advances on major cities have done.[/I][/QUOTE]But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
[QUOTE=Mr Beer post_id=1658235023]The Russian military has been struggling to take Mariupol, smaller than any of them, since the start of the war with more combat power than it is currently pushing toward Kryvyi Rih. The Russian advance on that axis is thus likely to bog down as all other Russian advances on major cities have done.[/I][/QUOTE]But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
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I'm just gonna say it
Are we supporting this war covertly? Pretty sure stealth drones sent at night could do what we're seeing...
Are we supporting this war covertly? Pretty sure stealth drones sent at night could do what we're seeing...
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Originally Posted By unicodesisters⏩
Ukraine doesn't have to "win" They have to outlast Russia in a war of atrition, on their own land.Nice intelligent technical analyze / 10. Uks will win, trust me bro, while each day they lose more territory, have more casualties, and what not.
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
03-19-2022, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
We have fed Ukraine as many weapons as possible and hourly intelligence reports this entire war, yes.I'm just gonna say it
Are we supporting this war covertly? Pretty sure stealth drones sent at night could do what we're seeing...
Are we supporting this war covertly? Pretty sure stealth drones sent at night could do what we're seeing...
03-19-2022, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted By unicodesisters⏩
Everyone is. There are crucial factors not uncovered.You guys are living in lala land
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03-19-2022, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
This one takes darving award. Source: Azov ministry of propaganda.Memcop said they controlled the air within the first 24 hours, amazing how he just stopped responding about anything he posted.
Russians have full control of air. In Donbas region their defense is annihiliated 100%.
Having one aircraft that does 3 flights per day, in comparison to 20-30 of russians jets that do 200 is full control.
Russians control sky 99%. Deal with it.
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Originally Posted By unicodesisters⏩
So you are telling me, a group of 900 men, have fought the battlefield over the entirety of Ukraine? This is what you are saying, yes? You would HAVE to believe this, if you believe your "videos".Nice intelligent technical analyze / 10. Uks will win, trust me bro, while each day they lose more territory, have more casualties, and what not.
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
Any you go into arguments with that memcop guy, who appears to be professional soldier of some kind, and legit looks like knows what he talks about. On top of that, he is anti russian, but obviously not as emotional or delusional as some here.
I can understand now why you attack him so often in hope your wishes come true after trying to debunk one out of 100s post guy made.
Lets see how things goes after Mariuopol.
But wait as per expert miscretard crew analysis city surrounded from all sides, by ten of thousands russian troops will not fall, despite being clear they are using civilians as human shields, what is also sole and only reason they are still alive. As per many videos Ive posted here earlier.
Well, whats left of them (azov and ukr army) at least. As per today news, circle is even smaller.
You guys are living in lala land
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Originally Posted By unicodesisters⏩
Why are they trucking helicopters in then you retard? Why doesn't RUSSIA control Donbass? Tell me?This one takes darving award. Source: Azov ministry of propaganda.
Russians have full control of air. In Donbas reagion their defense is annihiliated 100%.
Having one aircraft that does 3 flights per day, in comparison to 20-30 of russians jets that do 200 is full control.
Russians control sky 99%. Deal with it.
Russians have full control of air. In Donbas reagion their defense is annihiliated 100%.
Having one aircraft that does 3 flights per day, in comparison to 20-30 of russians jets that do 200 is full control.
Russians control sky 99%. Deal with it.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Russia completely ignored the presence of drones and American ground scanning technology.We have fed Ukraine as many weapons as possible and hourly intelligence reports this entire war, yes.
And the s300s/javelins are taking care of the air.
So Russia's only move is to suppress logistics routes and put Ukrainians on an offensive to avoid siege. I think that's what we're seeing. This is going to drag out and people will starve.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
It's definitely a war of attrition now. I would count on the Country itself outlasting a military that planned on being done in 10 days. How do you support 100,000+ troops for months on end? We have already seen countless videos of Russians pillaging stores and killing chickens. The first line of Russian soldiers had MRE's that expired in 2015 and had mold on them.Russia completely ignored the presence of drones and American ground scanning technology.
And the s300s/javelins are taking care of the air.
So Russia's only move is to suppress logistics routes and put Ukrainians on an offensive to avoid siege. I think that's what we're seeing. This is going to drag out and people will starve.
And the s300s/javelins are taking care of the air.
So Russia's only move is to suppress logistics routes and put Ukrainians on an offensive to avoid siege. I think that's what we're seeing. This is going to drag out and people will starve.
Imagine a video of US troops using outdated MRE's with mold on them.
How many videos did we see of US soldiers pillaging stores in Iraq....?
Everyone is COMPLETELY IGNORING the entire western side of Ukraine is unmolested. Where do you think ALL supplies and re-inforcements are coming from?
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
of course Chalup would be the guy to get mad because a country gets rid of porn, degeneracy, ped0philia, covid fearceling, etcYou are such a fukking moron. He could have banned all these anytime he wanted, and you are trying to suggest HE DID THIS ON PURPOSE. Get help.
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
They didn't "get rid" of it you fruitcake, thats my entire point LMAO. It was taken from them. Poots could have "gotten rid" of it anytime he wanted to for 2 decades and never did, LMAO. So much for fighting "globohomo"of course Chalup would be the guy to get mad because a country gets rid of porn, degeneracy, ped0philia, covid fearceling, etc
I guess the West had to do it for him.
El Poots was in fear of covid more than any other human on the planet BTW
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I don't know but jstars plus drones is going to fukking wreck large troop movements in real time. This has been interesting warfare. Logistical support of the Russian troops must be a nightmare right now.It's definitely a war of attrition now. I would count on the Country itself outlasting a military that planned on being done in 10 days. How do you support 100,000+ troops for months on end? We have already seen countless videos of Russians pillaging stores and killing chickens. The first line of Russian soldiers had MRE's that expired in 2015 and had mold on them.
Imagine a video of US troops using outdated MRE's with mold on them.
How many videos did we see of US soldiers pillaging stores in Iraq....?
Everyone is COMPLETELY IGNORING the entire western side of Ukraine is unmolested. Where do you think ALL supplies and re-inforcements are coming from?
Imagine a video of US troops using outdated MRE's with mold on them.
How many videos did we see of US soldiers pillaging stores in Iraq....?
Everyone is COMPLETELY IGNORING the entire western side of Ukraine is unmolested. Where do you think ALL supplies and re-inforcements are coming from?
Putin didn't think American systems could operate effectively from outside Ukraine.
Edit:. There's no way Ukraine came up with this in their own. And the reason the western side of Ukraine is clear must be due to high surveillance.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
the reports u read are desgined and published by the same people who:None of this makes any sense. Why tf would you invade a country with such a chit tier military.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
None of this adds up. There has to be something significant we don't know srs.
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
Their inability to anticipate drone use is a huge red flag. It's like Russia has absolutely not fukking idea what modern warfare is. They stepped straight out of the year 2000.
Is there a tactic or strategy I'm missing? Is there a setup for a siege and they're being patient?
None of this adds up. There has to be something significant we don't know srs.
Russia was aware they didn't have air control but they did nothing to remedy the situation and threw chitty troops at it? That doesn't add up.
Their inability to anticipate drone use is a huge red flag. It's like Russia has absolutely not fukking idea what modern warfare is. They stepped straight out of the year 2000.
- Pushed the COVID pandemic
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They also claim that Russia is losing and that Zelensky is by no means corrupt and by no means sacrifcing white men lives like his predecessors.
Its your call, u want to believe MSM who lied to u every time for the past 3 years?
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