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» Has anyone ever made bicep tendonitis / tendinopathy go away? (pls help brahs)
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post 1659480343 04-11-2022, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Devine88
I've seen it and reference it so much that it's on my bookmarks bar. Great website for sure. Thanks brah.
Thanks man it's nice to be having guidance from people who overcame this bullchit. Appreciate the heads up that the stretch is going to hurt that probably would've made me immediately stop. Seems like I need to study up on kinesiology a bit more to make sure my positioning is spot on during any movement.
I've got a career where I sit pretty much all the time and it's given me lower crossed syndrome and a slight rounding of the shoulders (internal rotation, impingement, relaxing of the shoulder blades) so this could definitely be what is wrong with me and would explain why the problem has worsened as I've aged and began to sit more and more. I'm watching the video. I'll try it right now and then incorporate it into my morning routine. Thanks brah.
Welcome brah, hope it heals soon
Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the problem with telling people to push through the pain is most people's movement patterns are what caused the injury and unless they fix them it will be a repeat thing, not because of the injury but because of their movement patterns. But ego prevents people from looking at themselves and blaming themselves and they would rather place all emphasis on the injury and "fixing it"

theres also a lot more money to be made in telling people you will fix their injuries for them.
Yeah good point on movement patterns. That's also what the issue was with my shoulder.
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Nothing helped me until I tried snake oil acupuncture. Now I'm a believer and go see the poke lady for all sorts of stuff.
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post 1659480683 04-11-2022, 04:31 PM
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I’ve had it a couple of times and took 4-6 weeks to heal.

I had to really back off my chin up volume. Not going to failure etc and never had it since.

I was forced to stop pulling exercises for a few weeks.

Now I don’t do chin ups at all.
post 1659480953 04-11-2022, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
Form is a very complex thing, if you are only looking at what you are doing externally that is only half of the equation of form. Also the more you advance your knowledge the more you pick up on little nuances in what is actually proper form.

I.e. for legs the most advanced form of "proper form" would be learning to root and how to emphasize muscle activation based on where you put tension on your foot while still rooting properly. Then keeping complete stability in the lower leg while finding proper ankle and knee mobility and angled for the target muscles, i.e. feet slightly out for adductors and more out for more adductors, having proper knee tracking and extension and flexion, having proper internal activation of the proper muscles i.e. adductors, hamstrings, glutes, quads. Knowing exactly where the end point of the range of motion of the MUSCLE is and not where the lift is. People say squat to parallel or ass to grass but neither of those are describing a muscles end point of range of motion.

This is barely touching the surface of what proper "form" would be for 1 leg movement. So see how it gets more complicated but the more advanced you get the lower the amount of injury and stress on joints.
Damn I'm having a hard to understanding how I'd go about figuring all that out for my own body. Is there some videos on how to do this? How does one pay attention to that many little things that they can hardly even feel?
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Nothing helped me until I tried snake oil acupuncture. Now I'm a believer and go see the poke lady for all sorts of stuff.
If you're being srs I'll make an appointment right now.
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Originally Posted By Devine88
If you're being srs I'll make an appointment right now.
I'm being 100% serious. Always thought it was a bunch of BS but had tried everything and was like F it why not. It's not a night and day change after one appointment, but after 2-3 I was like wtf. Have since gone in for my shoulder and knee for similar issues and totally helped. Just make sure you go to one with really good reviews, IDK how it works but just from talking to the one I go to, there's lots of BS acupuncturists out there.

Also ask if you can pull the needles out yourself afterwards, kinda trippy/fun.
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Originally Posted By dopamine72
This was about the point I was trying to make. However after you do the work in the gym you need to rest it a day or two then get back at it. People might get confused by how you worded that and work themselves into the ground like I did. I think wording this information depends on which type of person you're talking to, the one who overdoes things or the type who never does enough work and is lazy. I've trained both.

Some people need to be told to stfu and push through the pain/stop being a pussy while others will do the complete opposite not resting and making their injuries worse.
Largely agreed with your posts, but that was going to be my one comment - in my experience, going to 3-4/10 has set me backwards, and I *definitely* can't push the stretching too hard, so I wanted to make this point.


My general response for OP: focus on progressively loading stress to the bicep, stretching, and trying to find any asymmetries/points of stiffness (you probably got something going on somewhere). If rows feel better, go with them first and then work up to curls. Also helps do to reps really slowly. But again, go really really light and build up slowly making sure that you're only stressing as much as you can recover from (so if keeping it below 3-4/10 works for you, go for it).
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Originally Posted By Devine88
Damn I'm having a hard to understanding how I'd go about figuring all that out for my own body. Is there some videos on how to do this? How does one pay attention to that many little things that they can hardly even feel?

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its all added up over time, you do as much as you can and eventually it becomes ingrained in you and you become very attuned to proper movement. Thats why it is ALWAYS important to use multiple metrics of progressive overload. You will almost never master form on any lift.

Ben Pollack probably has some of the best lower body and back stuff you can read and watch. Joe sullivan. Coach Kassem/ N1training. Knees over toes guy. Paul Carter(liftrunbang). These people all literally believe the same exact stuff and will all agree with eachother 99% of the time because they are smart and know what they are doing and its all correct.
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post 1659482963 04-11-2022, 05:23 PM
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post 1659484033 04-11-2022, 05:50 PM
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Elbow tendonitis has been my oldest and dearest friend, sort of.

It comes from doing heavy weighted pull-ups. Somehow supinated and parallel grip pull-ups cause less pain.

Many times, I decreased intensity and it somehow subsided each time however every time I resumed going back to heavy it resurfaced.

Now, it's been almost three decades, on and off and usually on, always there to remind me that I should have been more careful and patient. For this old man, "time doesn't heal anything it teaches me how to live with pain."

However, you are still young so if you play it right the first time with patience then it would heal completely and for good.

If you must despite the injury then listen to your body, control intensity, volume and frequency.

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post 1659524023 04-12-2022, 12:09 PM
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^ more good info, good thread. Kneesovertoesguy has great info the only thing I disagree with him on is I believe deep tissue work is necessary, i.e. massage, foam rolling, lacrosse ball work etc
Originally Posted By AgRyan
I'm being 100% serious. Always thought it was a bunch of BS but had tried everything and was like F it why not. It's not a night and day change after one appointment, but after 2-3 I was like wtf. Have since gone in for my shoulder and knee for similar issues and totally helped. Just make sure you go to one with really good reviews, IDK how it works but just from talking to the one I go to, there's lots of BS acupuncturists out there.
Also ask if you can pull the needles out yourself afterwards, kinda trippy/fun.
Legit thought you were kidding but a vid of Andrew Jacked getting this done coincidentally popped up on my feed this morning. Think I'll have to give this a go then.

Originally Posted By legbroke
Largely agreed with your posts, but that was going to be my one comment - in my experience, going to 3-4/10 has set me backwards, and I *definitely* can't push the stretching too hard, so I wanted to make this point.
My general response for OP: focus on progressively loading stress to the bicep, stretching, and trying to find any asymmetries/points of stiffness (you probably got something going on somewhere). If rows feel better, go with them first and then work up to curls. Also helps do to reps really slowly. But again, go really really light and build up slowly making sure that you're only stressing as much as you can recover from (so if keeping it below 3-4/10 works for you, go for it).
Yeah pain is subjective and everyone has a different tolerance to it etc. You just need to test the waters then record the data so you can figure out what works for you.
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post 1659524983 04-12-2022, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Devine88
Curls are a no-go. Pulling movements are iffy. Had to greatly reduce volume and weight on pull day and cut out curls entirely. Full ROM, can completely extend and flex elbow joint. Pain and tightness while stationary usually after pull day or any time where I use it more than it would like. I make the pain go away by getting rid of the tightness with releases and stretches. No asymmetries.
are you sure the issue is with the bicep tendon and not with the UCL/RCL in the elbow?
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Yeah I fuked mine up doing preachers too much and too heavy. Took about 12 months to recover.
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