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post 1659654683 04-14-2022, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
If you've let yourself go and are immersed in porn YOU have a lot of work today on yourself before you complain about your partners seggs drive...

I agree that you should always look inward first and fix your problems before you ask them to fix theirs..

There are a lot that have done their part and are viewed by their wives as a chore or as another child that requires work, however.

I have a buddy that is tall, good looking, brings home 200k, great dad, loads of women want him but his wife wont touch him. Told him to go find a side piece but not tell her about it (srs)
maybe he should find out why

women also dont like boring men

I have a fun wild side and it attracts a lot of women especially because I have it under control and dont let it interfere with me being an adult. Women dont like men who dont ever have/show that side and just seem plain and boring.

This is why some men need to stop arguing that its a good idea to marry the first woman you find and learn to sleep around and get to know the female gender and what women ACTUALLY like not what they tell people publicly that they want in a man.
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post 1659655453 04-14-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Viewing it like this is like being religious - it's for the weak minded. Just like the weak minded need a fairy tale about a magic wizard in the sky in order to be able to live morally, only the weak minded need the extra legal complications of marriage in order to be committed to another person.

Also, once you start adding in big ticket items like buying a house and accumulating wealth together and having kids, the break up is almost as complicated as the marriage.
An unmarried couple and a married couple can be equally committed emotionally but the married couple is committed legally as well. And specifically their relationship, not shared assets.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the real truth is that men are wanting sex less in the bedroom now and women are complaining men cant keep up or cant last long enough or cant get hard because of too much porn

but men also expect women to still want to have sex with them as they grow guts, lose all muscle mass, grow tons of hair everywhere and start to lose the white in their teeth etc... why are women supposed to still want to have sex with you more and more?
the problem here is their viewing sex as purely physical and only focusing on the other's sex appeal as a reason to have sex or not. If they focused on the intimacy of sex and the shared experience, getting older and guys getting dad bods and women losing the glow don't really matter cause the emotional intimacy outweighs it
post 1659655903 04-14-2022, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
maybe he should find out why

women also dont like boring men

I have a fun wild side and it attracts a lot of women especially because I have it under control and dont let it interfere with me being an adult. Women dont like men who dont ever have/show that side and just seem plain and boring.

This is why some men need to stop arguing that its a good idea to marry the first woman you find and learn to sleep around and get to know the female gender and what women ACTUALLY like not what they tell people publicly that they want in a man.
I think it goes back to the fact the scientific studies show womens libido is driven by novelty. A long term partner, no matter how adventurous they are in the bedroom, isnt a new partner. Its the same partner with different tricks.

We see this play out when married women get divorced and while they claimed low libido during the marriage they sleep with 10 people in the first month...This has played out in literally 100% of the divorces I've watched.

So I really do believe the science is validated by the reality we see around us.

In the end you cant drive their desire for YOU with chores, flowers, etc when what naturally drives their desire isnt you, its someone new...Having sex with YOU is literally a chore to them because you arent what they want..... just like a female in this thread already confirmed.

...and again Im not bitter Im happily married for 23 years. Im simply talking about the scientific data and what I've seen play out around me.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
True

And chit fathers who don’t take on their share of parenting end up with no sex cos their wives only see themselves as mothers and are exhausted and overly physically needed as a parent.

This is when the attention you put in has to overcome the laziness of familiarity
great point
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
I think it goes back to the fact the scientific studies show womens libido is driven by novelty. A long term partner, no matter how adventurous they are in the bedroom, isnt a new partner. Its the same partner with different tricks.

We see this play out when married women get divorced and while they claimed low libido during the marriage they sleep with 10 people in the first month...This has played out in literally 100% of the divorces I've watched. Low libido women goes WILD after leaving marriage.

So I really do believe the science is validated by the reality we see around us.

In the end you cant drive their desire for YOU with chores, flowers, etc when what they desire isnt you...

...and again Im not bitter Im happily married for 23 years. Im simply talking about the scientific data and what I've seen play out around me.
That has more to do with their ex husbands being chitty in bed. I dated so many recently divorced women who hadn't had an orgasm in years unless they gave it to themselves. Several told me their ex husbands didn't eat them out once during their marriage. They all essentially described sex as maybe a few minutes of foreplay (if they were lucky), about five minutes of thrusting, the guy cooming, and it's over. You can't blame a woman for not getting excited about that. What you view as novelty is years of pent up sexual frustration to a guy that put some work in to get laid and most guys use our best moves the first few times we are with someone
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
maybe he should find out why

women also dont like boring men

I have a fun wild side and it attracts a lot of women especially because I have it under control and dont let it interfere with me being an adult. Women dont like men who dont ever have/show that side and just seem plain and boring.

This is why some men need to stop arguing that its a good idea to marry the first woman you find and learn to sleep around and get to know the female gender and what women ACTUALLY like not what they tell people publicly that they want in a man.
Attracting women isn't the issue here, anyone in a long-term relationship has already done that. This thread is about what happens after you're through the initial phase of lust and infatuation

Things don't even require real work until then, being that wild guy hopping from girl to girl chasing lust is what I would call the easy route. Pulling off a 10, 20, 30-year+ relationship is faaaaaar more challenging
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
I would agree with that to an extent...

I do have an issue that men have to work their arse off to get you in bed and then work their arse off to please you in bed.
So I admit men have to make the move and keep it going, but we are talking LTR here. And the working their arse off to please you in bed. Really? Is it really that challenging? Is it really that one sided? You don’t like the throwing them round and taking charge part go for someone less submissive, or communicate. Women tend to being pleasers so tell em what you want,
Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
At some level there should be mutual desire, initiative and responsibility. It is NOT the mans responsibility to walk on eggshells, pedestal you so you can grant him access to the gates of heaven.
LMAO my first post ITT was about being denied last night. Feels.
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
I think it goes back to the fact the scientific studies show womens libido is driven by novelty. A long term partner, no matter how adventurous they are in the bedroom, isnt a new partner. Its the same partner with different tricks.

We see this play out when married women get divorced and while they claimed low libido during the marriage they sleep with 10 people in the first month...This has played out in literally 100% of the divorces I've watched.

So I really do believe the science is validated by the reality we see around us.

In the end you cant drive their desire for YOU with chores, flowers, etc when what naturally drives their desire isnt you, its someone new...Having sex with YOU is literally a chore to them because you arent what they want..... just like a female in this thread already confirmed.

...and again Im not bitter Im happily married for 23 years. Im simply talking about the scientific data and what I've seen play out around me.
im not talking about a fun wild side in the bedroom im talking about in life.

For women it isnt novelty of a person but novelty of experiences with a person. For men it is a new person.

So when I said they like a man with a wild side I mean in life, he likes to take some risks, have some fun, adventure into life and show her experiences she wouldnt have without him. Nothing turns a women on more than that and as a man you should continue to do this for your wife if you want good sex to continue.

But men are stupid, women aren't wrong, but thats why I always push men to date more women and sleep around and learn their perspective to gain an advantage.
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post 1659657583 04-14-2022, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor
Attracting women isn't the issue here, anyone in a long-term relationship has already done that. This thread is about what happens after you're through the initial phase of lust and infatuation

Things don't even require real work until then, being that wild guy hopping from girl to girl chasing lust is what I would call the easy route. Pulling off a 10, 20, 30-year+ relationship is faaaaaar more challenging
this is why men cant keep women interested lol

you need to keep that lust and infatuation going by continuing to have a wild young free side. Why do you think older people go to burning man and festivals and do LSD and chit? its fun but it also allows you to show your partner or best friends other experiences in life. The good thing is theres TONS and TONS of endless experiences to have with someone. Make them interesting, fun, and risky every once and awhile.

You need to keep winning her over, and its not hard, just be a more fun person it will reward you as much as it costs and then some. Its worth the effort to change.
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post 1659657753 04-14-2022, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
I would agree with that to an extent...

I do have an issue that men have to work their arse off to get you in bed and then work their arse off to please you in bed.

At some level there should be mutual desire, initiative and responsibility. It is NOT the mans responsibility to walk on eggshells, pedestal you so you can grant him access to the gates of heaven.
That is your own flaw brah. That is not necessary to get some, it is just your mind set.

I'm going to be me brah and act/do what I want. If a female is good with that then we are good. If not it would be better to go separate ways. In fact it would be my assumption and experience that women actually prefer this approach. That is why the guy kissing ass and putting in work always gets friend zoned or dated a girl until she ends up banging someone else.

I'm not putting in work, I like to go out have fun, talk sheet, get drunk and have wild sex. My girl enjoys the same so that's what we do.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
im not talking about a fun wild side in the bedroom im talking about in life.

For women it isnt novelty of a person but novelty of experiences with a person. For men it is a new person.

So when I said they like a man with a wild side I mean in life, he likes to take some risks, have some fun, adventure into life and show her experiences she wouldnt have without him. Nothing turns a women on more than that and as a man you should continue to do this for your wife if you want good sex to continue.

But men are stupid, women aren't wrong, but thats why I always push men to date more women and sleep around and learn their perspective to gain an advantage.
It's effort. It takes an effort to be a good partner. It takes effort to be a good sexual partner.

But i can't stress enough how important i think sex is in a relationship from the standpoint that if both partners are sexually satisfied, the little chit really doesn't matter. if your woman is sexually satisfied, she doesn't care if you leave your socks on the floor
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You guys aren't going to like this but I am shirt middle eastern dude with a serious lack of self control and a drug problem

I guarantee you I sleep with more women than all of you

Women are attracted to inefficiency and dysfunctional people. Why would they be attracted to their husbands? They are likely stable people. Women are attracted to like destruction and incompetence trust me I get really hot girls and I am a legitimate crazy man
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
this is why men cant keep women interested lol

you need to keep that lust and infatuation going by continuing to have a wild young free side. Why do you think older people go to burning man and festivals and do LSD and chit? its fun but it also allows you to show your partner or best friends other experiences in life. The good thing is theres TONS and TONS of endless experiences to have with someone. Make them interesting, fun, and risky every once and awhile.

You need to keep winning her over, and its not hard, just be a more fun person it will reward you as much as it costs and then some. Its worth the effort to change.
I agree with you until this "You need to keep winning her over". I do not think at this point I am trying so much to win her again and again as it is continuing to have new and exciting experiences so that boredom does not set in. We are trying to experience things together and enjoy life. If it was all in the perception that I need to make additional efforts or put in work, then I would find that to be cumbersome on my behalf. I much prefer mutual enjoyment.

More like hey it sound like fun to go to burning man, drop some lsd, and bang out for 3 days. You want to go? VS I better take her to burning man, drop some acid and bang her good for 3 days to keep her interested in me.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
this is why men cant keep women interested lol

you need to keep that lust and infatuation going by continuing to have a wild young free side. Why do you think older people go to burning man and festivals and do LSD and chit? its fun but it also allows you to show your partner or best friends other experiences in life. The good thing is theres TONS and TONS of endless experiences to have with someone. Make them interesting, fun, and risky every once and awhile.

You need to keep winning her over, and its not hard, just be a more fun person it will reward you as much as it costs and then some. Its worth the effort to change.
Lust, infatuation, emotional volatility, etc aren't sustainable over the long term with someone you spend basically every day with and aren't conducive for laying the foundation for a family. Lust is what sets you up at the front end, and then your relationship evolves into a bunch of different things over the years and experiences if you make it that far


Families need stability, consistent execution day after day after day, and that can definitely become boring but is kinda necessary


Even just the emotional rollercoaster at the start of a relationship, which is one thing that feeds into the excitement of sex in those early stages, isn't sustainable for years on end
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Originally Posted By Gayford
I agree with you until this "You need to keep winning her over". I do not think at this point I am trying so much to win her again and again as it is continuing to have new and exciting experiences so that boredom does not set in. We are trying to experience things together and enjoy life. If it was all in the perception that I need to make additional efforts or put in work, then I would find that to be cumbersome on my behalf. I much prefer mutual enjoyment.

More like hey it sound like fun to go to burning man, drop some lsd, and bang out for 3 days. You want to go? VS I better take her to burning man, drop some acid and bang her good for 3 days to keep her interested in me.
your intent shouldnt be to keep winning her over but it is the fact of the matter. You also should have to eat your wife out every week to keep her the most happy but its also a fact of the matter. Find a way to enjoy it too and make it benefit your life is what I am saying and like you said theres mutual enjoyment which is what I posted that the rewards outweigh the costs of the effort making it beneficial anyway.
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Originally Posted By Destor
Lust, infatuation, emotional volatility, etc aren't sustainable over the long term with someone you spend basically every day with and aren't conducive for laying the foundation for a family. Lust is what sets you up at the front end, and then your relationship evolves into a bunch of different things over the years and experiences if you make it that far


Families need stability, consistent execution day after day after day, and that can definitely become boring but is kinda necessary


Even just the emotional rollercoaster at the start of a relationship, which is one thing that feeds into the excitement of sex in those early stages, isn't sustainable for years on end
I believe the opposite. I think the reason most relationships arent sustainable is they lose the lust and infatuation and some emotional volatility(doesnt have to be negative) but some excitement, extreme joy, carefreeness, whimsical, etc.... bring some exciting emotions way above baseline every once and awhile.

You are preaching trying to reach homeostasis and ride it out. Thats what men want and what our lazy human brain wants. But if you want to stay engaged in life and stay young forever then guess what, you DO have to work and keep getting out of your comfort zone and reject homeostasis but maintain a strong pillar of balance and stability at the center.
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Originally Posted By John$Galt
Imagine being so pathetic that you're that obsessed with sex.

Ejaculating every time, wasting your life force, your creative force, and your health and your life suffer.

Imagine thinking that sex is the pinnacle of existence, especially when you pump for 5/10 mins, shoot out your life force, then go to sleep while your body struggles to regenerate it.

In fairness, I was there when I was younger, obsessed with it. But I wish I'd have had someone to teach me then what I know now. I wouldn't have wasted so much time and energy on it.

That said, really no reason to live with a girl unless you're planning on having kids with her one day.
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Originally Posted By FarmersSon
lol. How old is your youngest now? IIRC you've been through the newborn phase before, so you know it gets better. Having a zombie wife that's sleep deprived doesn't help set the mood either.

Married 19 years this summer with 5 kids. It's not complicated to keep desire in a marriage. Be nice to each other, give your wife attention, show appreciation, stay in shape, etc. But it's not necessarily easy either.
5 now. Not looking forward to having another and going through the newborn stage again. The stress/reward ratio is just not it. Wasn't "fun" until he started actually doing stuff.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
LMAO you really don’t read the threads on here, huh?
Most of the threads here are made by single guys
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
All the girls I work with try to convince me that sex is not that important to them. Not sure if they are lying or not.
they know that you have a pattern of sexual harassment towards coworkers so they have to say that stuff
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the real truth is that men are wanting sex less in the bedroom now and women are complaining men cant keep up or cant last long enough or cant get hard because of too much porn

but men also expect women to still want to have sex with them as they grow guts, lose all muscle mass, grow tons of hair everywhere and start to lose the white in their teeth etc... why are women supposed to still want to have sex with you more and more?
Men age like fine wine. lol
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
You are preaching trying to reach homeostasis and ride it out. Thats what men want and what our lazy human brain wants. But if you want to stay engaged in life and stay young forever then guess what, you DO have to work and keep getting out of your comfort zone and reject homeostasis but maintain a strong pillar of balance and stability at the center.
Men forget that they should be living their lives for themselves, and your woman should want to come along for the ride because you are an amazing partner, parent and provider. If you fulfill all those things attraction from a female is inevitable, whether it's your wife or otherwise.

If you don't have a sex drive anymore, you should be taking steps to fix it. Just like if your marriage sucks or your kids are a disaster you should be taking steps to fix it, not expecting other people to do it for you.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the real truth is that men are wanting sex less in the bedroom now and women are complaining men cant keep up or cant last long enough or cant get hard because of too much porn

but men also expect women to still want to have sex with them as they grow guts, lose all muscle mass, grow tons of hair everywhere and start to lose the white in their teeth etc... why are women supposed to still want to have sex with you more and more?
Well my husband is in amazing shape in this late 50s and looks better than most men who are 30. But we just lost attraction to each other over time, even in our 20s when we were both super fit. Of course he doesn't like my size now, but we've been celibate for 16 years. We just stayed for our daughter and the house, but I've moved out 3 times. He doesn't like my muscle, either, but I really don't care at this point. He used to call me names but stopped.

But now that I'm looking for a life partner I wouldn't want a guy who doesn't take care of himself as you mention above. Why get with a guy when you're tempted to cheat? I'd rather stay alone than hurt someone.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
5 now. Not looking forward to having another and going through the newborn stage again. The stress/reward ratio is just not it. Wasn't "fun" until he started actually doing stuff.
I hear you. I love babies, but living with a newborn 24/7 can really be tough. For me, kids get a lot easier when the start sleeping through the night - maybe 4-6 months for most of ours. My youngest is 3 now and she is a little sweetheart. A month ago my sister was in town and she has a two-year-old. I would "hide" around a corner in the house and he would come and peek at me then I would chase him (me on all fours, snarling and growling) and he would run as fast as his short legs could go giggling and squealing. Then I would catch him and tickle him, let him go and do it again. We did that over and over for 10 or 15 minutes. My knees were pretty sore that night, guess I'm getting too old to chase toddlers. Something like 2-10 might be my favorite range to play with kids. I do a lot of things with my olders kids, but we don't really "play" much anymore.

Honestly, over the last year I've probably missed out on more quality time with my wife due to the older kids than the younger ones. The young ones are pretty easy to just put to bed and mine generally sleep in well, too. The older kids have so much going on now, they just suck up so much time. Time well spent, but it's still a challenge.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
im obviously low test. once a week good for me with my fwb and maybe fap if i feel like it
Mind fukkin blown srs

How is that OK with you?
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