Thread: Pfizer's Chantix
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Pfizer's Chantix
So back in 2006, Pfizer made a drug that the FDA approved called Chantix. This drug was prescribed for people who wanted to avoid the increased chance of developing cancer because they were smokers. 16 years later, the Pfizer and the FDA are removing the drug from the market. Can you guess why?? Because Chantix causes cancer!! Lol.
Don't worry though, I'm sure the shots you had pumped into you are safe and effective like the TV man says. I mean, you haven't experienced any bad effects yet, right?
Truth is, they haven't the slightest F'ing idea of what these shots are going to do to people down the road. Hell, they initially though the shot wouldn't move from the injection site, right? Oops, I guess they do enter the lymphatic system and spread throughout the body.....
Don't worry though, I'm sure the shots you had pumped into you are safe and effective like the TV man says. I mean, you haven't experienced any bad effects yet, right?
Truth is, they haven't the slightest F'ing idea of what these shots are going to do to people down the road. Hell, they initially though the shot wouldn't move from the injection site, right? Oops, I guess they do enter the lymphatic system and spread throughout the body.....
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Chantix was designed to help you quit smoking, not to try avoid an increased chance of developing cancer.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
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Originally Posted By BIGJIMSLADE22⏩
It has to do with nitrosamine impurities in that drug being potentially above acceptable limits I believe. That wouldn't be the case with the vaccine.So back in 2006, Pfizer made a drug that the FDA approved called Chantix. This drug was prescribed for people who wanted to avoid the increased chance of developing cancer because they were smokers. 16 years later, the Pfizer and the FDA are removing the drug from the market. Can you guess why?? Because Chantix causes cancer!! Lol.
Don't worry though, I'm sure the shots you had pumped into you are safe and effective like the TV man says. I mean, you haven't experienced any bad effects yet, right?
Truth is, they haven't the slightest F'ing idea of what these shots are going to do to people down the road. Hell, they initially though the shot wouldn't move from the injection site, right? Oops, I guess they do enter the lymphatic system and spread throughout the body.....
Don't worry though, I'm sure the shots you had pumped into you are safe and effective like the TV man says. I mean, you haven't experienced any bad effects yet, right?
Truth is, they haven't the slightest F'ing idea of what these shots are going to do to people down the road. Hell, they initially though the shot wouldn't move from the injection site, right? Oops, I guess they do enter the lymphatic system and spread throughout the body.....
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Originally Posted By Ten_Hearts⏩
Point is, it took them 16 years to say people should not have been taking this. What ingredient(s) of the vaccine will they find shouldn't be in peoples bodies years down the road with the vaccines??It has to do with nitrosamine impurities in that drug being potentially above acceptable limits I believe. That wouldn't be the case with the vaccine.
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Yep, same could be said about Zantac and countless other drugs. The vax is going to give you mesothelioma and lupus
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I took Zantac for years and also took Chantix a few months. I'm a walking posterboard for Big pharma Cancer. Loved Chantix tho...helped me quit chewing for well over a year and had the best/most vivd dreams on the stuff. Neighbors had nightmares on it and quit it after a few days.
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took chantix for about a year and it helped me quit smoking
didn't get cancer from it
didn't get cancer from it
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Originally Posted By adamsz⏩
Yet.......didn't get cancer from it
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I actually have classified information on Chantix, My uncle is SAS and a doctor in the Australian Defence Force (IYKYK)
In the early 2000s the US Military Soldiers were smoking their tits off in Iraq and Afghan, the US Military was concerned so they gave all the soldiers Chantix. It made the soldiers go mental as u know the drug makes you go mental. There were various incidents of soldiers waking up in the middle of the night and blowing up and murdering local civilians, so eventually, they took it off the soldiers.
But yeah effective at quitting smoking but crazy drug, the dreams i got from it were unreal.
In the early 2000s the US Military Soldiers were smoking their tits off in Iraq and Afghan, the US Military was concerned so they gave all the soldiers Chantix. It made the soldiers go mental as u know the drug makes you go mental. There were various incidents of soldiers waking up in the middle of the night and blowing up and murdering local civilians, so eventually, they took it off the soldiers.
But yeah effective at quitting smoking but crazy drug, the dreams i got from it were unreal.
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG⏩
add a couple jabs on top of thatI took Zantac for years and also took Chantix a few months. I'm a walking posterboard for Big pharma Cancer. Loved Chantix tho...helped me quit chewing for well over a year and had the best/most vivd dreams on the stuff. Neighbors had nightmares on it and quit it after a few days.
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Originally Posted By BIGJIMSLADE22⏩
Well pharmacokinetics studies I believe showed the vaccine and it's components are metabolized out of the body within a few days so years down the road shouldn't be a concern. But you can look up the ingredients in the vaccine so are there any particular ingredients you have concerns about?Point is, it took them 16 years to say people should not have been taking this. What ingredient(s) of the vaccine will they find shouldn't be in peoples bodies years down the road with the vaccines??
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Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩
I used to work with an older lady on Chantix, not only did it make her very drowsy but she also continued to smoke.Chantix was designed to help you quit smoking, not to try avoid an increased chance of developing cancer.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
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Can't tell hardcore lefties this, they've been thoroughly reprogrammed to follow their master's orders.


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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
can you live to 2097?I want to see the ongoing double blind clinical study.

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[QUOTE=BIGJIMSLADE22 post_id=1660228813]Point is, it took them 16 years to say people should not have been taking this. What ingredient(s) of the vaccine will they find shouldn't be in peoples bodies years down the road with the vaccines??[/QUOTE]Well for whatever specific reason the mrna injections that used the lipid shell instead of the adenovirus appear to be wrecking more people. So if I were betting on an ingredient [vs. mrna itself] I vote for the lipid shell [aka: Lipid Nano Particles [LNPs]
[URL=https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/drug-delivery/Without-lipid-shells-mRNA-vaccines/99/i8]https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/...vaccines/99/i8[/URL]
Excerpts:
[QUOTE]LNPs used in the COVID-19 vaccines contain just four ingredients: ionizable lipids whose positive charges bind to the negatively charged backbone of mRNA, pegylated lipids that help stabilize the particle, and phospholipids and cholesterol molecules that contribute to the particle’s structure. Thousands of these four components encapsulate mRNA, shield it from destructive enzymes, and shuttle it into cells, where the mRNA is unloaded and used to make proteins. Although the concept seems simple, perfecting it was far from straightforward.
[b]Over more than 3 decades, promising lipids studied in the lab often failed to live up to their potential when tested in animals or humans. Positively charged lipids are inherently toxic, and companies struggled for years before landing on formulations that were safe and effective. When injected intravenously, the particles invariably accumulated in the liver, and delivery to other organs is still an obstacle.[/b]Reliably manufacturing consistent LNPs was another challenge, and producing the raw materials needed to make the particles is a limiting factor in the production of COVID-19 vaccines today.
[b]LNPs that looked good in the lab often floundered in the clinic, however. The first versions of ionizable lipids were still toxic. And early formulations of the nanoparticles didn’t degrade fast enough, causing them to accumulate after repeated injections.[/b]Protiva found that one of its experimental LNP therapies caused a more severe immune reaction in humans than it had in the lab, and the company pinned pegylated lipids as a major factor.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]LNPs take advantage of a natural process called receptor-mediated endocytosis to get into cells, Madden explains. Upon binding to a cell, the nanoparticle becomes encapsulated in an even bigger lipid bubble—an organelle called an endosome. The endosome’s acidic interior protonates the heads of the ionizable lipids, making them positively charged. That positive charge triggers a change in the shape of the nanoparticle, which scientists think helps it break free from the endosome and ultimately release its RNA cargo into the cell’s cytoplasm. Once released, the RNA is free to do its job.
[b]The most effective nanoparticles were ones that the body mistook as low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol—commonly called bad cholesterol. Proteins that recognize LDL cholesterol in the blood bound to some of Alnylam’s nanoparticles and carried them to LDL receptors on liver cells, which then caused the cells to engulf the nanoparticles in an endosome.[/b]It was the kind of complex interplay that studies in a petri dish missed.
[b]Even some of the LNPs that worked well in animals proved too toxic for the repeated dosing required of many siRNA therapies. “The biggest issue was trying to find the right balance between systems that were effective but also safe and tolerable,”[/b]says Marian Gindy, executive director of pharmaceutical sciences at Merck & Co., who led the RNA formulation team from 2008 until Merck ended its siRNA programs in 2013.[b] “And I would say that is still the biggest challenge in this area.”[/b][/QUOTE][QUOTE]But [b]details on how Moderna arrived at its optimal formulation in the first place are scant. The company did not grant an interview to talk about its nanoparticle development, and neither did Pfizer or BioNTech.[b] For its COVID-19 vaccine, Moderna ultimately used an ionizable lipid that it calls SM-102, which it first described in a 2018 study on alternatives to MC3. Pfizer and BioNTech licensed an ionizable lipid called ALC-0315 from Acuitas.
[b]Those ionizable lipids, which are remarkably similar in structure, were discovered while the firms were optimizing LNPs for systemic administration and delivery to the liver—not the intramuscular injection of a vaccine. [/b][/QUOTE]The public were sold an intramuscular injection, while the scientific hypothesis was that the injections would travel through the lymphatic system, not the vascular system.
It was revealed early on in Pfizer's own data that they found the LNPs were concentrating in the ovaries and blood marrow. Health effects being reported post injection pointed towards the injections circulating through the blood and a mouse study found that S1 can cross the blood brain barrier.
Just posted in another thread last night- study of healthcare workers post-vaccination found S1 [a component of the spike protein] circulating in the blood of ALL study participants [13] and full spike protein circulating in the blood of 3 participants. In the study itself they postulate that it is possible that ALL participants had full spike protein circulating and that some tests only found fragments vs. whole spike protein because whole spike protein had been degraded.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/BzEigubrO5A[/youtube]
Dr. Been hasn't been shut down, maybe because youtube can't claim that he is unqualified nor that he is spreading "disinformation" when he carefully cites studies in his videos.
[URL=https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/drug-delivery/Without-lipid-shells-mRNA-vaccines/99/i8]https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/...vaccines/99/i8[/URL]
Excerpts:
[QUOTE]LNPs used in the COVID-19 vaccines contain just four ingredients: ionizable lipids whose positive charges bind to the negatively charged backbone of mRNA, pegylated lipids that help stabilize the particle, and phospholipids and cholesterol molecules that contribute to the particle’s structure. Thousands of these four components encapsulate mRNA, shield it from destructive enzymes, and shuttle it into cells, where the mRNA is unloaded and used to make proteins. Although the concept seems simple, perfecting it was far from straightforward.
[b]Over more than 3 decades, promising lipids studied in the lab often failed to live up to their potential when tested in animals or humans. Positively charged lipids are inherently toxic, and companies struggled for years before landing on formulations that were safe and effective. When injected intravenously, the particles invariably accumulated in the liver, and delivery to other organs is still an obstacle.[/b]Reliably manufacturing consistent LNPs was another challenge, and producing the raw materials needed to make the particles is a limiting factor in the production of COVID-19 vaccines today.
[b]LNPs that looked good in the lab often floundered in the clinic, however. The first versions of ionizable lipids were still toxic. And early formulations of the nanoparticles didn’t degrade fast enough, causing them to accumulate after repeated injections.[/b]Protiva found that one of its experimental LNP therapies caused a more severe immune reaction in humans than it had in the lab, and the company pinned pegylated lipids as a major factor.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]LNPs take advantage of a natural process called receptor-mediated endocytosis to get into cells, Madden explains. Upon binding to a cell, the nanoparticle becomes encapsulated in an even bigger lipid bubble—an organelle called an endosome. The endosome’s acidic interior protonates the heads of the ionizable lipids, making them positively charged. That positive charge triggers a change in the shape of the nanoparticle, which scientists think helps it break free from the endosome and ultimately release its RNA cargo into the cell’s cytoplasm. Once released, the RNA is free to do its job.
[b]The most effective nanoparticles were ones that the body mistook as low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol—commonly called bad cholesterol. Proteins that recognize LDL cholesterol in the blood bound to some of Alnylam’s nanoparticles and carried them to LDL receptors on liver cells, which then caused the cells to engulf the nanoparticles in an endosome.[/b]It was the kind of complex interplay that studies in a petri dish missed.
[b]Even some of the LNPs that worked well in animals proved too toxic for the repeated dosing required of many siRNA therapies. “The biggest issue was trying to find the right balance between systems that were effective but also safe and tolerable,”[/b]says Marian Gindy, executive director of pharmaceutical sciences at Merck & Co., who led the RNA formulation team from 2008 until Merck ended its siRNA programs in 2013.[b] “And I would say that is still the biggest challenge in this area.”[/b][/QUOTE][QUOTE]But [b]details on how Moderna arrived at its optimal formulation in the first place are scant. The company did not grant an interview to talk about its nanoparticle development, and neither did Pfizer or BioNTech.[b] For its COVID-19 vaccine, Moderna ultimately used an ionizable lipid that it calls SM-102, which it first described in a 2018 study on alternatives to MC3. Pfizer and BioNTech licensed an ionizable lipid called ALC-0315 from Acuitas.
[b]Those ionizable lipids, which are remarkably similar in structure, were discovered while the firms were optimizing LNPs for systemic administration and delivery to the liver—not the intramuscular injection of a vaccine. [/b][/QUOTE]The public were sold an intramuscular injection, while the scientific hypothesis was that the injections would travel through the lymphatic system, not the vascular system.
It was revealed early on in Pfizer's own data that they found the LNPs were concentrating in the ovaries and blood marrow. Health effects being reported post injection pointed towards the injections circulating through the blood and a mouse study found that S1 can cross the blood brain barrier.
Just posted in another thread last night- study of healthcare workers post-vaccination found S1 [a component of the spike protein] circulating in the blood of ALL study participants [13] and full spike protein circulating in the blood of 3 participants. In the study itself they postulate that it is possible that ALL participants had full spike protein circulating and that some tests only found fragments vs. whole spike protein because whole spike protein had been degraded.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/BzEigubrO5A[/youtube]
Dr. Been hasn't been shut down, maybe because youtube can't claim that he is unqualified nor that he is spreading "disinformation" when he carefully cites studies in his videos.
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took them 16 years to realize and/or admit their drug causes cancer. That is 16 years after the normal FDA approval process.
The sheep think that the rushed 8 week clinical trials for muh covid vaccine prove these injectables are safe for a lifetime and through some magical time travel and muh science we know the long term effects from 8 week trials.
The drug companies and FDA are laughing because they told all trial participants to go get the clot shots. So now there is no control group. So any illnesses anyone develops from the shots they will just say you cant prove it was from the shot. There is no long term study of these effects.
The sheep think that the rushed 8 week clinical trials for muh covid vaccine prove these injectables are safe for a lifetime and through some magical time travel and muh science we know the long term effects from 8 week trials.
The drug companies and FDA are laughing because they told all trial participants to go get the clot shots. So now there is no control group. So any illnesses anyone develops from the shots they will just say you cant prove it was from the shot. There is no long term study of these effects.
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
ayyyyy, lmao.add a couple jabs on top of that
surprised you are still able to Misc
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I'm back to a pureblood now since my first 2 jabs didn't take and no boosters. U mad brah...ya u mad. PUUURREEEE BLOOODDDDDDD in da house
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
i'm in the control group brahThe drug companies and FDA are laughing because they told all trial participants to go get the clot shots. So now there is no control group. .
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brah Pfizer last year had their anti-smoking drug pulled off the shelves for cancer - sept 2021.
Pfizer had one of the worst reputations in the industry before the covid supported endorsed them
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Pfizer had one of the worst reputations in the industry before the covid supported endorsed them
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I took Chantix. The **** works. You basically forget to smoke. And if you do smoke it tastes horrible.
But yeah the sides were very real. Changes in mood, weird ass dreams, nausea. Luckily I only ever got nausea in the morning from it. Pretty much everyone smoked here back then so lots of people I knew had experience with it.
But yeah the sides were very real. Changes in mood, weird ass dreams, nausea. Luckily I only ever got nausea in the morning from it. Pretty much everyone smoked here back then so lots of people I knew had experience with it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
LOL vaccine regratzNo, you're just in the expanded "not fully vaccinated" group.

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Originally Posted By Ten_Hearts⏩
Yes, the vaccines will not cause whatever problem this drug that was FDA approved, tons of studies showing how 'safe' it was, etcIt has to do with nitrosamine impurities in that drug being potentially above acceptable limits I believe. That wouldn't be the case with the vaccine.
Unfortunately, drugs do more than whatever specific cancer this one was causing. Whoops! So, while they might not cause this specific cancer Chantix did, there are only about 10,000 other kinds of cancer, blood clotting, heart issues, or lord knows what else they could be contributing towards that we need to wait I guess 16 years to find out about.
Hopefully these rushed vaccines work perfectly fine. Never mind they all got rushed within a year and we'd been looking at mRNA technology for the past two decades with NO successes ever. I am sure suddenly 18 companies all at once figured out what nobody else could for two decades and all did it within a year. That sounds super reasonable.
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We can dismiss the OP out of hand based on the ridiculous comparison between a drug and these particular vaccines; because a drug is exponentially more likely to cause side effects and unforeseen issues down the road. The vaccine is minimalist in composition and more to the point, it's aonce and done thing(without the semantic squabble of two doses/boosters etc.
There's no scientifically honest comparison to make between constant and ongoing use of a drug and the nature of a vaccine. One is a therapy to treat disease, the other is a preventative.
There's of course the rest of the repeatedly and resolutely refuted anti-vax BS shovelled at us ITT. Vaccine was rushed, it could cause long term effects, data on safety somehow compromised or the result of a conspiracy etc.
Upcoming responses to this: You go doody on the walls! LOL!, childish attacks, insults, flaming.
There's no scientifically honest comparison to make between constant and ongoing use of a drug and the nature of a vaccine. One is a therapy to treat disease, the other is a preventative.
There's of course the rest of the repeatedly and resolutely refuted anti-vax BS shovelled at us ITT. Vaccine was rushed, it could cause long term effects, data on safety somehow compromised or the result of a conspiracy etc.
Upcoming responses to this: You go doody on the walls! LOL!, childish attacks, insults, flaming.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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Originally Posted By YUL⏩
Website says it's 'not available at this time'?Uhhhh. It’s still on the market
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I specifically remember commercials saying that name. Lol hard if you need a commercial to promote a drug that should already work. If something works well, it doesn't need advertisement. Word of mouth is enough.
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04-25-2022, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩
Met a guy that was taking Chantix to quit smoking, he said one day he was driving by a bus stop and vividly imagined plowing right through it killing everyone, stopped taking it after that.Chantix was designed to help you quit smoking, not to try avoid an increased chance of developing cancer.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
Also not only does this drug increase risk of cancer, it created depression & suicidal tendencies in a lot of people. I heard some real horror stories about it.
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04-28-2022, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By KilaByte⏩
i mean maybe he was just insane lolMet a guy that was taking Chantix to quit smoking, he said one day he was driving by a bus stop and vividly imagined plowing right through it killing everyone, stopped taking it after that.
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