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04-25-2022, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
^This. Went through it as well. Except in my industry they were even more brutal. Damn near fist fight level. They'd play some pretty cruel pranks to new people.It's not a boomer thing, it's everyone. You ask them how they got to where they got and they act like they were knocking it out and dragging it home from day 1. They already knew it, they went to college to prove they knew it, and once in the field they had to rise through the ranks proving they knew it the whole time. It was easy for them. Masters of the universe. Their ego that they've always had it. Often people look back and think "it really wasn't that hard" but that's easy for them now.
When I first got into being an auto tech and was just a kid changing oil and trying to learn more these older guys would just mog on me and try to make me feel bad because of skills I didn't knave and things I didn't know and they would straight up tell me they always had it and could always do those things and all that changed is they are faster now. Told me since I didn't have it I would never have it so I might as well find something else because I don't have the capacity to ever do those things. Got to admit it was discouraging. Almost accepted my fate of being an oil and tire changer for life. Not going to make a whole career story here but eventually snapped out of it and really hammered down realizing I had a lot to learn and really worked for it, Got away from their mindset. Now I'm a senior master with diesel, electric vehicle, hybrid as well as gas powered, lead diagnostic tech, specialist, shop foreman (sort of). I'd blow those guys away now and looking back most of them were mediocre at best. It wasn't easy and it wasn't overnight.
Also, jsut because you have a degree doesn't mean much. Of 4 years, just about 2 are towards your field in reality. You've barely got your feet wet.
When I first got into being an auto tech and was just a kid changing oil and trying to learn more these older guys would just mog on me and try to make me feel bad because of skills I didn't knave and things I didn't know and they would straight up tell me they always had it and could always do those things and all that changed is they are faster now. Told me since I didn't have it I would never have it so I might as well find something else because I don't have the capacity to ever do those things. Got to admit it was discouraging. Almost accepted my fate of being an oil and tire changer for life. Not going to make a whole career story here but eventually snapped out of it and really hammered down realizing I had a lot to learn and really worked for it, Got away from their mindset. Now I'm a senior master with diesel, electric vehicle, hybrid as well as gas powered, lead diagnostic tech, specialist, shop foreman (sort of). I'd blow those guys away now and looking back most of them were mediocre at best. It wasn't easy and it wasn't overnight.
Also, jsut because you have a degree doesn't mean much. Of 4 years, just about 2 are towards your field in reality. You've barely got your feet wet.
But it forced you to really prove yourself and I was better for it at the end.
That mentality is gone now though, and largely not allowed at all.
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04-25-2022, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
you talked to an 80 year old who has been retired for 20 years? of course he is clueless on th emodern job marketCliffs:
- OP talks to boomer about his career in the energy sector
- Boomer doesn't have a college degree
- Boomer "called and asked if they were hiriing"
- Hired as a tradie
- Eventually promoted to executive leadership of operations (unclear on exact job title)
- Phuck boomers ded srs
I met this boomer friend of my parents yesterday at some New Orleans music festival where booomers congregate to relive the glory days and binge drink. I got to talking to him, and he retired from Shell USA in the 90s. I've always been interested in the energy sector, to the point of having applied for several jobs in O&G.
I was asking him how he got into the industry and if he had any advice on transitioning from IT (my current field), because surely there must be a need for tech people in the energy sector. This brah had the straight up boomer dream career track. "Just called and asked if they were hiring" (ded srs) is how he got some tradie-tier job in a refinery. Worked his way up to tradie-manager and then was eventually brought in to executive management of operations for the region.
Just lmfao. This brah doesn't even have a college degree and while he was certainly a smart enough dude, he was fairly simple. I've applied for jobs at Shell and they made me submit copies of every single document/credential I claimed on my resume before the interview and I had to bring the originals to the interview itself to be inspected (srs). Did boomers have to work for literally anything or did all of them just fail upwards for their entire life?
- OP talks to boomer about his career in the energy sector
- Boomer doesn't have a college degree
- Boomer "called and asked if they were hiriing"
- Hired as a tradie
- Eventually promoted to executive leadership of operations (unclear on exact job title)
- Phuck boomers ded srs
I met this boomer friend of my parents yesterday at some New Orleans music festival where booomers congregate to relive the glory days and binge drink. I got to talking to him, and he retired from Shell USA in the 90s. I've always been interested in the energy sector, to the point of having applied for several jobs in O&G.
I was asking him how he got into the industry and if he had any advice on transitioning from IT (my current field), because surely there must be a need for tech people in the energy sector. This brah had the straight up boomer dream career track. "Just called and asked if they were hiring" (ded srs) is how he got some tradie-tier job in a refinery. Worked his way up to tradie-manager and then was eventually brought in to executive management of operations for the region.
Just lmfao. This brah doesn't even have a college degree and while he was certainly a smart enough dude, he was fairly simple. I've applied for jobs at Shell and they made me submit copies of every single document/credential I claimed on my resume before the interview and I had to bring the originals to the interview itself to be inspected (srs). Did boomers have to work for literally anything or did all of them just fail upwards for their entire life?
04-25-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
its basically the mind game part of hazing, a lot of people do that and dont even realize they do that. fuk with the new guy and if he never cracks then eventually let him in. its stupid because if he gets tired of the BS he might just apply to somewhere else where people are more willing to trainIt's not a boomer thing, it's everyone. You ask them how they got to where they got and they act like they were knocking it out and dragging it home from day 1. They already knew it, they went to college to prove they knew it, and once in the field they had to rise through the ranks proving they knew it the whole time. It was easy for them. Masters of the universe. Their ego that they've always had it. Often people look back and think "it really wasn't that hard" but that's easy for them now.
When I first got into being an auto tech and was just a kid changing oil and trying to learn more these older guys would just mog on me and try to make me feel bad because of skills I didn't knave and things I didn't know and they would straight up tell me they always had it and could always do those things and all that changed is they are faster now. Told me since I didn't have it I would never have it so I might as well find something else because I don't have the capacity to ever do those things. Got to admit it was discouraging. Almost accepted my fate of being an oil and tire changer for life. Not going to make a whole career story here but eventually snapped out of it and really hammered down realizing I had a lot to learn and really worked for it, Got away from their mindset. Now I'm a senior master with diesel, electric vehicle, hybrid as well as gas powered, lead diagnostic tech, specialist, shop foreman (sort of). I'd blow those guys away now and looking back most of them were mediocre at best. It wasn't easy and it wasn't overnight.
Also, jsut because you have a degree doesn't mean much. Of 4 years, just about 2 are towards your field in reality. You've barely got your feet wet.
When I first got into being an auto tech and was just a kid changing oil and trying to learn more these older guys would just mog on me and try to make me feel bad because of skills I didn't knave and things I didn't know and they would straight up tell me they always had it and could always do those things and all that changed is they are faster now. Told me since I didn't have it I would never have it so I might as well find something else because I don't have the capacity to ever do those things. Got to admit it was discouraging. Almost accepted my fate of being an oil and tire changer for life. Not going to make a whole career story here but eventually snapped out of it and really hammered down realizing I had a lot to learn and really worked for it, Got away from their mindset. Now I'm a senior master with diesel, electric vehicle, hybrid as well as gas powered, lead diagnostic tech, specialist, shop foreman (sort of). I'd blow those guys away now and looking back most of them were mediocre at best. It wasn't easy and it wasn't overnight.
Also, jsut because you have a degree doesn't mean much. Of 4 years, just about 2 are towards your field in reality. You've barely got your feet wet.
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Zoomers and millennials feel entitled to high paying jobs because they are college educated. College is worthless unless you are a doc, lawyer, or engineer. The rest of the jobs can be had through hard work and networking. Once you build a reputation for yourself and prove you are a hard worker, you will move through the ranks. I have done it as a 32 year old, so its no bull****. Boomers are annoying, but they are right about the younger generations entitlement. Just because you have a college degree does not mean you are guaranteed to make 70k plus a year. Gotta start from the bottom my boy....unless you are a trust fund kid. Life isn't fair...sooner you learn that, the better you'll get at being creative and grinding.
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Lol one of my first jobs I was a production line assembler. I had no idea wtf I wanted to do but figured if I showed up, worked my ass off, put in all my time and paid my dues, I would climb the ladder.
But what ended up happening is 3 years later I was still an assembler, and they were refusing to offer me any promotions or opportunities for advancement. Any position I was interested in I was told I had to go find a way to get the qualifications myself and they wouldn't be willing to train me on anything. I got fed up finally when they wanted me to move and catalogue inventory for no extra money.
Now I'm a quality engineer and I happier, but clearly businesses don't care how hard you work or how dedicated you are. It's like if you work at Burger King and you are the only person OK with scrubbing the toilets and mopping the floors; you won't get first in line for a manager position, you'll just be the first one asked when the toilets need scrubbing and the floors need mopping. Extra money? Why? You're just doing your job!
But what ended up happening is 3 years later I was still an assembler, and they were refusing to offer me any promotions or opportunities for advancement. Any position I was interested in I was told I had to go find a way to get the qualifications myself and they wouldn't be willing to train me on anything. I got fed up finally when they wanted me to move and catalogue inventory for no extra money.
Now I'm a quality engineer and I happier, but clearly businesses don't care how hard you work or how dedicated you are. It's like if you work at Burger King and you are the only person OK with scrubbing the toilets and mopping the floors; you won't get first in line for a manager position, you'll just be the first one asked when the toilets need scrubbing and the floors need mopping. Extra money? Why? You're just doing your job!
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
No he was much younger than that. I'd say mid-sixties. I realize I wrote in the OP that he retired in the 90s, but now that I think about it more, I think he probably retired in the 2000s or 2010s. He retired in his fifties because the company was trimming the fat and he was asked to retire so he got a mogger package.you talked to an 80 year old who has been retired for 20 years? of course he is clueless on th emodern job market
But that was probably also all due to his sikkunt work ethic according to the boomers ITT.
Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Yeah I would def love to do it for a few months. I've done tons of tradie jobs in my life and they are almost all really fun for a few months lmfao.I'd love to work a rig and frac spread for a month or two just to experience it. Looks beast mode. Definitely not as a career though lol.
I misunderstood what you were trying to do.
IT is quite a bit different in the O&G area. Typically it would all be completely contracted out. Unless if your an applications engineer of some sort.
I misunderstood what you were trying to do.
IT is quite a bit different in the O&G area. Typically it would all be completely contracted out. Unless if your an applications engineer of some sort.
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Originally Posted By Jms89⏩
Agree with this 100%. However, education is now the way to get yourself in the door as the minimum. Once you're in though, it means sweet **** all.Zoomers and millennials feel entitled to high paying jobs because they are college educated. College is worthless unless you are a doc, lawyer, or engineer. The rest of the jobs can be had through hard work and networking. Once you build a reputation for yourself and prove you are a hard worker, you will move through the ranks. I have done it as a 32 year old, so its no bull****. Boomers are annoying, but they are right about the younger generations entitlement. Just because you have a college degree does not mean you are guaranteed to make 70k plus a year. Gotta start from the bottom my boy....unless you are a trust fund kid. Life isn't fair...sooner you learn that, the better you'll get at being creative and grinding.
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04-25-2022, 09:24 AM
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ITT op is mad that someone who put in hard work and years of dedication is more valuable than him. Entitled.
Who's to say that's how EVERYONE made it to executive mgmt? Maybe he was an anomaly? Or, maybe he was terrible and they said no more w/o degrees? You're making a lot of immature assumptions really. Typical zoomer feeling sorry for themselves instead of putting in work. Your degree has been devalued b/c they made college easier so the graduating classes could be more diverse.
I mean, honestly, if my choices were a douchy, arrogant, entitled whiny baby with 4 degrees or a guy who is humble and has been with me for 25 years I know who I'm choosing. He's less risk and knows the company.
Who's to say that's how EVERYONE made it to executive mgmt? Maybe he was an anomaly? Or, maybe he was terrible and they said no more w/o degrees? You're making a lot of immature assumptions really. Typical zoomer feeling sorry for themselves instead of putting in work. Your degree has been devalued b/c they made college easier so the graduating classes could be more diverse.
I mean, honestly, if my choices were a douchy, arrogant, entitled whiny baby with 4 degrees or a guy who is humble and has been with me for 25 years I know who I'm choosing. He's less risk and knows the company.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
Part of being successful is being able analyze and predict. That trait works at every level. You have to know when to hang tight and keep working it, and when to know it's time to move on. You figured it out. A lot of people don't.Lol one of my first jobs I was a production line assembler. I had no idea wtf I wanted to do but figured if I showed up, worked my ass off, put in all my time and paid my dues, I would climb the ladder.
But what ended up happening is 3 years later I was still an assembler, and they were refusing to offer me any promotions or opportunities for advancement. Any position I was interested in I was told I had to go find a way to get the qualifications myself and they wouldn't be willing to train me on anything. I got fed up finally when they wanted me to move and catalogue inventory for no extra money.
Now I'm a quality engineer and I happier, but clearly businesses don't care how hard you work or how dedicated you are. It's like if you work at Burger King and you are the only person OK with scrubbing the toilets and mopping the floors; you won't get first in line for a manager position, you'll just be the first one asked when the toilets need scrubbing and the floors need mopping. Extra money? Why? You're just doing your job!
But what ended up happening is 3 years later I was still an assembler, and they were refusing to offer me any promotions or opportunities for advancement. Any position I was interested in I was told I had to go find a way to get the qualifications myself and they wouldn't be willing to train me on anything. I got fed up finally when they wanted me to move and catalogue inventory for no extra money.
Now I'm a quality engineer and I happier, but clearly businesses don't care how hard you work or how dedicated you are. It's like if you work at Burger King and you are the only person OK with scrubbing the toilets and mopping the floors; you won't get first in line for a manager position, you'll just be the first one asked when the toilets need scrubbing and the floors need mopping. Extra money? Why? You're just doing your job!
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Originally Posted By natypes⏩
Holy phuck people are phucking melting down about this thread lmfao. Brah it's not about my feelings of entitlement, it's that there were some god-tier career paths that existed during peak American economy.ITT op is mad that someone who put in hard work and years of dedication is more valuable than him. Entitled.
Who's to say that's how EVERYONE made it to executive mgmt? Maybe he was an anomaly? Or, maybe he was terrible and they said no more w/o degrees? You're making a lot of immature assumptions really. Typical zoomer feeling sorry for themselves instead of putting in work. Your degree has been devalued b/c they made college easier so the graduating classes could be more diverse.
I mean, honestly, if my choices were a douchy, arrogant, entitled whiny baby with 4 degrees or a guy who is humble and has been with me for 25 years I know who I'm choosing. He's less risk and knows the company.
Who's to say that's how EVERYONE made it to executive mgmt? Maybe he was an anomaly? Or, maybe he was terrible and they said no more w/o degrees? You're making a lot of immature assumptions really. Typical zoomer feeling sorry for themselves instead of putting in work. Your degree has been devalued b/c they made college easier so the graduating classes could be more diverse.
I mean, honestly, if my choices were a douchy, arrogant, entitled whiny baby with 4 degrees or a guy who is humble and has been with me for 25 years I know who I'm choosing. He's less risk and knows the company.
Imagine that being your career. You show up for a tradie job @ 19 and at 50, having acquired no additional certification or credentialing, you are asked to retire, given a mogger severance package, and leave as a member of the executive leadership of one of the largest energy companies in the world.
That is phucking beast, and according to this boomer, his path was not even especially spectacular. It was a common thing during those times. Is that very common today brah? That is my only point and you are coping hard if you don't see that.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
This lmaoSo because you know this one example ( that you admit you don't really know ), you concluded that it was "very common" those times.
The cope is you creating this thread.
The cope is you creating this thread.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anachron again.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
lmfaoooooooooo maybe brah, maybe.So because you know this one example ( that you admit you don't really know ), you concluded that it was "very common" those times.
The cope is you creating this thread.
The cope is you creating this thread.
Like I said though, and as others ITT have confirmed, this Boomer was adament that this was not a particularly spectacular career path and that many of his peers did similar things in similarly exclusive parts of the company.
My only point is that that kind of career growth requires a lot more than just elbow grease in 2022, and you'd be crazy not to acknowledge that.
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Major thread back fire OP dun goofed ..................entitled cnt
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Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Had some fist fight moments myself. Not going to get into which field is worse, but yeah I can relate. One thing is true about boomers is their idea of a pecking order, bully mentality.^This. Went through it as well. Except in my industry they were even more brutal. Damn near fist fight level. They'd play some pretty cruel pranks to new people.
But it forced you to really prove yourself and I was better for it at the end.
That mentality is gone now though, and largely not allowed at all.
But it forced you to really prove yourself and I was better for it at the end.
That mentality is gone now though, and largely not allowed at all.
Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
As a foreman part of my job is to train people. What is very simple to me might not be for a younger guy trying to learn. So I'm not the best trainer because I go over their heads too much but I try. I don't put them down for what they don't know. I always say "this isn't easy, if it was everyone could do it" and that we all started out at the bottom. Walking is easy and you dont' even think about it but at one time it was a real struggle for us all and a real accomplishment to take our first steps. If someone asks how do you walk you would just say "stand up and put one foot in front of the other".its basically the mind game part of hazing, a lot of people do that and dont even realize they do that. fuk with the new guy and if he never cracks then eventually let him in. its stupid because if he gets tired of the BS he might just apply to somewhere else where people are more willing to train
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Nah you just need to work harder you entitled millenial.Had some fist fight moments myself. Not going to get into which field is worse, but yeah I can relate. One thing is true about boomers is their idea of a pecking order, bully mentality.
Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
okI mean, if you think whining on the misc is the right way to go about, you do you.
And I'll just go and talk to the people I know that will confirm the opposite.
I used to think you head a decent head on those shoulders, but I am starting to have my doubts.
And I'll just go and talk to the people I know that will confirm the opposite.
I used to think you head a decent head on those shoulders, but I am starting to have my doubts.
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Lots of inefficiencies and long-term support exists for development, and these differences matter. The boomer head down response is as shrewd as saying a guy in an isolated tribe in Africa is equally equipped to become an executive of a top bank as a dude in luxembourg studying somewhere with connections.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Depends, it can happen. My wife started out somewhere as a receptionist from a temp agency and w/in 5 years she was head buyer and the only one w/ no degree. She used that to get a job elsewhere with a $12k/yr raise and then, after covid, decided wfh was for her and got a buyer position wfh for same pay. She still has no degree.My only point is that that kind of career growth requires a lot more than just elbow grease in 2022, and you'd be crazy not to acknowledge that.
I went from being a police officer 15 years (degree in CJ) to outside sales selling paint 5 years to managing a bodyshop at a dealership with NO management experience. Obviously making way more money than I did as a leo. And there are mgmt positions around the city that will be open to me once I make this place succeed that will pay even more.
My best friend has a degree in concrete management, but has a job as an engineer at a place that builds parts for Nissan. He can stay there 20 years and make it pretty high I'm sure.
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I get your point, the general hiring process has become really broken starting around 2011 when the internet really took off(I LOL @ needing 4 years experience for an entry-level position)
Some of the biggest contributing issues are the world population having doubled since boomers were young & now women are in the workforce which has more than doubled the demand for job positions
As a matter of fact if we went back to stay-at-home mothers, I'm willing to bet you would be able to call and have a job on the spot once again
I don't see why people blame the boomers for any of it though; most of them are long retired
I can guarantee the one you mentioned in the OP worked more hours than anyone & took more responsibility to work his way up over decades
Some of the biggest contributing issues are the world population having doubled since boomers were young & now women are in the workforce which has more than doubled the demand for job positions
As a matter of fact if we went back to stay-at-home mothers, I'm willing to bet you would be able to call and have a job on the spot once again
I don't see why people blame the boomers for any of it though; most of them are long retired
I can guarantee the one you mentioned in the OP worked more hours than anyone & took more responsibility to work his way up over decades
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Originally Posted By dmike100⏩
This is another issue I see among people currently under 30 & why people say "they don't want to work" because it's trueThis is what confuses me about the younger generations. It seems everyone thinks they should walk into a high paying job and won't accept anything below what they consider acceptable. Sometimes you have to take a low paying job to get your foot in the door and then prove yourself to move up.
I know a couple of guys that have nothing but a HS Diploma & refuse to take a job for less than $20/hour, no marketable skills, no education, nothing
They haven't kept a job more than 6 months AFAIK; absolutely brain-dead take all around from them
By my reference I got one of them an apprenticeship position to learn how to become an electrical tradie & he quit after 1 month because "the pay was only $15/hour"
*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*
*We didn't deserve snailsrus*
As always: not medical advice but medical opinion crew
04-25-2022, 10:15 AM
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Juat lol @ the pathetic millennial mentality of "duuuurrrrr..... I got a qualification so why isn't anyone giving me a well paid job".
Diregard qualifications, acquire experience. Or both.
Tons of upper management where I work started off as tradies or office plebs.
Ded fk'n serious
Diregard qualifications, acquire experience. Or both.
Tons of upper management where I work started off as tradies or office plebs.
Ded fk'n serious
fist yourself
04-25-2022, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
And they’re young guys, not from the previous generation? And you work for a market-leader or strategic industry?Juat lol @ the pathetic millennial mentality of "duuuurrrrr..... I got a qualification so why isn't anyone giving me a well paid job".
Diregard qualifications, acquire experience. Or both.
Tons of upper management where I work started off as tradies or office plebs.
Ded fk'n serious
Diregard qualifications, acquire experience. Or both.
Tons of upper management where I work started off as tradies or office plebs.
Ded fk'n serious
04-25-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Yeah brah, he was in exec for a while. He didn’t get promoted and retire the next day lmao. You’re just trying argue semantics about what the proper definition of young is now kek.I mean, do you even see what you are posting here?
How can they be young guys, if it takes years to progress along that path?
Your initial example in this thread is someone who got there by the time they are 50...
This entire thread reeks of whine to be honest, and it's not a good look.
How can they be young guys, if it takes years to progress along that path?
Your initial example in this thread is someone who got there by the time they are 50...
This entire thread reeks of whine to be honest, and it's not a good look.
04-25-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
You must be trolling. Your scenario and his arent even close to the same.Why do boomers all seethe immediately if you point out that the economic conditions of their generation were far more favorable to the worker than in modern times?
I would argue that in this day and time, there is exponentially much more opportunity to make money than back in the 80's and 90's.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
That’s a good point, but again I’d emphasize that I’m satisfied with my own career— this guys journey just seems to me to be beyond the pale in the energy sector of 2022– as many posters have confirmed itt already.You must be trolling. Your scenario and his arent even close to the same.
I would argue that in this day and time, there is exponentially much more opportunity to make money than back in the 80's and 90's.
I would argue that in this day and time, there is exponentially much more opportunity to make money than back in the 80's and 90's.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
I am in the heart of the industry and I know for a fact they are losing people left and right to tech. So if you are in tech and are trying to go into the industry, they would be courting you like no other IF.......BIG IF......you are good.Phuck no mang, my tradie days are behind me. I was in the Local 86 in Seattle for a couple years (after a few other tradie jobs led me there), that was enough lmfao. I'd be interested in building IT infrastructure or doing analytics for an energy company though.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Based.I am in the heart of the industry and I know for a fact they are losing people left and right to tech. So if you are in tech and are trying to go into the industry, they would be courting you like no other IF.......BIG IF......you are good.
04-25-2022, 11:39 AM
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Didn't read a single word,
but lol just LMAOOOOOOOOO at boomers
but lol just LMAOOOOOOOOO at boomers
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