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post 1660374783 04-27-2022, 08:18 PM
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Anyone know of or take any natty test booster or aromatase inhibitors?

yes i know, the natty stuff is garbage and "just pin some test brah"... i dont plan on sippin on that oj til 35, personal reasons.

has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
post 1660375083 04-27-2022, 08:23 PM
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I've had good results with DIM, my favorite was back when mr Hyde test surge had 250mg of it and other herbs in it for natty boosts. Sadly they grossly under dossed dim and creatine in the new one. Currently using betancourt b-nox reloaded with decent results. Granted I'm 36 so it might hit me better than you, assuming you're much younger.
post 1660375223 04-27-2022, 08:24 PM
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Some miscer was trying onion juice one time. I remember reading the thread a few years ago. I think he didn't get much results though.
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post 1660375283 04-27-2022, 08:25 PM
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They have AIs that are okay, "natural" estrogen blockers so to speak, nothing like arimidex or HCG though, a simple google search will find them.
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post 1660375633 04-27-2022, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By ShortMonster
They have AIs that are okay, "natural" estrogen blockers so to speak, nothing like arimidex or HCG though, a simple google search will find them.
ya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.

i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
post 1660375683 04-27-2022, 08:36 PM
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AIs are awful for you.
post 1660375783 04-27-2022, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
ya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.

i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
All those old supps that passed the legal loophole arent around anymore, no more PHs that work well either. PM me i have a site that may have what you want
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post 1660375813 04-27-2022, 08:39 PM
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PES Pro has Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione, the new ones are pretty much just arimistane


Edit i have not tried these so i cant really comment, just googled it, im sure someone on here has taken both
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The 2010’s were crazy with the OTC pro hormones and AI’s lol

Never took any of that stuff but have lots of friends who took Arimatest and all sorts of PH’s and continued to drink etc. just lol.

All of those sorts of products have disappeared. But you can still run SARMS
post 1660379153 04-27-2022, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ShortMonster
All those old supps that passed the legal loophole arent around anymore, no more PHs that work well either. PM me i have a site that may have what you want
Fuark idk how to pm lol
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Anything good is banned now.

So no, there isn’t anything.

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post 1660379423 04-27-2022, 10:12 PM
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What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
post 1660379603 04-27-2022, 10:18 PM
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Tongkat Ali has some studies showing ~30% test boost

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/

here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/

unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
post 1660379633 04-27-2022, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By manmore350
What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
Imo pointless. The good sarms shut you down and have more sides than real gear while, from what ive seen, have worse results.

Basically they are the new prohormones like superdrol and shiet back in the day that people used to take. Id get some test and dbol before any of that nonsense if i were to go down that road.
post 1660380243 04-27-2022, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
yes i know, the natty stuff is garbage and "just pin some test brah"... i dont plan on sippin on that oj til 35, personal reasons.

has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
I don't see any effect.

One time I tried this Asian herb, the name is escaping me, but it made my testicles feel HUGE, but that was about it.

People who get screwed up by gear are using LARGE amounts but small amounts have a very good effect if you are naturally muscular to begin with.

Also, there are substances that reduce estrogen and so your test is more pronounced. You will feel that in a positive manner.
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post 1660380493 04-27-2022, 10:43 PM
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I'm not following, you NEED Estradiol, it's the most powerful hormone & essential to OJ balance/erections/sperm etc

Lowering it will only hurt gains as well




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AI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
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post 1660381543 04-27-2022, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
AI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
can vouch and agree with this

don't believe everything you read online about gear let alone from miscers who have never ran anything
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post 1660382063 04-27-2022, 11:52 PM
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I take this chit called AlphaViril like 5 days per week it doesn't actually do anything for my physique or athletic abilities but it makes me horny as fuk and every hardon is diamond strength on days I take it. Doesn't sound like that's what you are looking for tho.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Tongkat Ali has some studies showing ~30% test boost

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/

here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/

unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
tongkat ali, zinc and vitamin D will get you 100-200 ng/dl srs

but if youre like me you'll get sick of taking vitamins every day

TRT isn't all its cracked it up to be either.
it causes problems with a whole bunch of other hormones and before you know it you're a walking chemistry experiment with T, anti E, progesterone, DHEA, cialis

1-2 mild bicycles per year is the way to go, golden era knew back then
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5
tongkat ali, zinc and vitamin D will get you 100-200 ng/dl srs

but if youre like me you'll get sick of taking vitamins every day

TRT isn't all its cracked it up to be either.
it causes problems with a whole bunch of other hormones and before you know it you're a walking chemistry experiment with T, anti E, progesterone, DHEA, cialis

1-2 mild bicycles per year is the way to go, golden era knew back then
Tongkat, that is what made my testicles get large.

It didn't hurt but the gf noticed it.

I pretended it wasn't happening.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
ya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.

i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
Didnt someone else make that stuff and call it "formestane"?
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Anything you can buy online that is not for a "lab rat" and your pissing your money away literally.
There isnt any "but" or short cut...

If you want test enhancement that will translate into any improvement run a mild cycle of cyp/deca/clen 1-2x per year with proper PCT.
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My local shop tries to claim this stuff is amazing.

https://www.inteknutrition.com/intek...evolution.html

I've tried it like 3-4 times just for a motivation boost. For the first bit I feel amazing, good mood, energy,muscles feel fuller, then start to feel sorta crappy and feel fatter. It does make me super hungry though so might be just eating too much with it.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex
cyp/deca/clen 1-2x per year with proper PCT.
tell me you've never ran gear without telling me you never ran gear lol
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Originally Posted By manmore350
What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
Did lgd a few weeks ago, alongside enclo & dhea.

Pumps for lgd were just STUPID.
- Had to take like 10 gram taurine to walk/workout

Lgd suppressed me, and dhea led to high e2. Oily skin + big acne
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tongkat ali is legit. mild, made me hornier and harder
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D-Aspartic acid OP it actually works
Originally Posted By multiplemiggs
Some miscer was trying onion juice one time. I remember reading the thread a few years ago. I think he didn't get much results though.
That was me and it was probably around 10 years ago

I ended up smelling like a giant walking onion, even my boogers smelled like onions

It may have worked but its ABSOLUTELY not worth smelling like a god damn onion 24/7
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
AI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
Lol u wot m8?

PCT not needed?

Tell me how I know you're retarded
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