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Anyone know of or take any natty test booster or aromatase inhibitors?
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Anyone know of or take any natty test booster or aromatase inhibitors?
yes i know, the natty stuff is garbage and "just pin some test brah"... i dont plan on sippin on that oj til 35, personal reasons.
has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
04-27-2022, 08:23 PM
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I've had good results with DIM, my favorite was back when mr Hyde test surge had 250mg of it and other herbs in it for natty boosts. Sadly they grossly under dossed dim and creatine in the new one. Currently using betancourt b-nox reloaded with decent results. Granted I'm 36 so it might hit me better than you, assuming you're much younger.
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Some miscer was trying onion juice one time. I remember reading the thread a few years ago. I think he didn't get much results though.
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They have AIs that are okay, "natural" estrogen blockers so to speak, nothing like arimidex or HCG though, a simple google search will find them.
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Originally Posted By ShortMonster⏩
ya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.They have AIs that are okay, "natural" estrogen blockers so to speak, nothing like arimidex or HCG though, a simple google search will find them.
i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
04-27-2022, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
All those old supps that passed the legal loophole arent around anymore, no more PHs that work well either. PM me i have a site that may have what you wantya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.
i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
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04-27-2022, 08:39 PM
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PES Pro has Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione, the new ones are pretty much just arimistane
Edit i have not tried these so i cant really comment, just googled it, im sure someone on here has taken both
Edit i have not tried these so i cant really comment, just googled it, im sure someone on here has taken both
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04-27-2022, 10:03 PM
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The 2010’s were crazy with the OTC pro hormones and AI’s lol
Never took any of that stuff but have lots of friends who took Arimatest and all sorts of PH’s and continued to drink etc. just lol.
All of those sorts of products have disappeared. But you can still run SARMS
Never took any of that stuff but have lots of friends who took Arimatest and all sorts of PH’s and continued to drink etc. just lol.
All of those sorts of products have disappeared. But you can still run SARMS
04-27-2022, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ShortMonster⏩
Fuark idk how to pm lolAll those old supps that passed the legal loophole arent around anymore, no more PHs that work well either. PM me i have a site that may have what you want
04-27-2022, 10:10 PM
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What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
04-27-2022, 10:18 PM
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Tongkat Ali has some studies showing ~30% test boost
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/
here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/
unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/
here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/
unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
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Originally Posted By manmore350⏩
Imo pointless. The good sarms shut you down and have more sides than real gear while, from what ive seen, have worse results.What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
Basically they are the new prohormones like superdrol and shiet back in the day that people used to take. Id get some test and dbol before any of that nonsense if i were to go down that road.
04-27-2022, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
I don't see any effect.yes i know, the natty stuff is garbage and "just pin some test brah"... i dont plan on sippin on that oj til 35, personal reasons.
has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
has anyone tried anything that ofc doesnt fuk with your endocrine system but increases test at least marginally? or any aromatase inhibitors that dont completely nuke E levels, i dont have gyno or any high E symptoms, im just looking to lower E slightly at a natural lvl.
One time I tried this Asian herb, the name is escaping me, but it made my testicles feel HUGE, but that was about it.
People who get screwed up by gear are using LARGE amounts but small amounts have a very good effect if you are naturally muscular to begin with.
Also, there are substances that reduce estrogen and so your test is more pronounced. You will feel that in a positive manner.
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04-27-2022, 10:43 PM
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I'm not following, you NEED Estradiol, it's the most powerful hormone & essential to OJ balance/erections/sperm etc
Lowering it will only hurt gains as well
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Lowering it will only hurt gains as well
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AI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
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Originally Posted By 4everalone⏩
can vouch and agree with thisAI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
don't believe everything you read online about gear let alone from miscers who have never ran anything
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I take this chit called AlphaViril like 5 days per week it doesn't actually do anything for my physique or athletic abilities but it makes me horny as fuk and every hardon is diamond strength on days I take it. Doesn't sound like that's what you are looking for tho.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
tongkat ali, zinc and vitamin D will get you 100-200 ng/dl srsTongkat Ali has some studies showing ~30% test boost
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/
here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/
unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/
here's a good meta analysis of 100+ Tongkat studies. Ctrl-F 'tongak ali'. Almost all the studies showed significant test boost. Not enough to turn you into a monster obviously. Just enough to push someone lower normal into normal, or normal into high normal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6274257/
unfortunately i dont know what brand has good quality Tongkat. have to make sure you're getting what it actually says on the bottle, which is hard to know
but if youre like me you'll get sick of taking vitamins every day
TRT isn't all its cracked it up to be either.
it causes problems with a whole bunch of other hormones and before you know it you're a walking chemistry experiment with T, anti E, progesterone, DHEA, cialis
1-2 mild bicycles per year is the way to go, golden era knew back then
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
Tongkat, that is what made my testicles get large.tongkat ali, zinc and vitamin D will get you 100-200 ng/dl srs
but if youre like me you'll get sick of taking vitamins every day
TRT isn't all its cracked it up to be either.
it causes problems with a whole bunch of other hormones and before you know it you're a walking chemistry experiment with T, anti E, progesterone, DHEA, cialis
1-2 mild bicycles per year is the way to go, golden era knew back then
but if youre like me you'll get sick of taking vitamins every day
TRT isn't all its cracked it up to be either.
it causes problems with a whole bunch of other hormones and before you know it you're a walking chemistry experiment with T, anti E, progesterone, DHEA, cialis
1-2 mild bicycles per year is the way to go, golden era knew back then
It didn't hurt but the gf noticed it.
I pretended it wasn't happening.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Didnt someone else make that stuff and call it "formestane"?ya definitely dont need a real AI. not PCT'ing and no high e2.
i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
i remember a product called erase by PES back in the day, cant seem to find it now though. ran through a couple of bottles one spring and it was great.
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Anything you can buy online that is not for a "lab rat" and your pissing your money away literally.
There isnt any "but" or short cut...
If you want test enhancement that will translate into any improvement run a mild cycle of cyp/deca/clen 1-2x per year with proper PCT.
There isnt any "but" or short cut...
If you want test enhancement that will translate into any improvement run a mild cycle of cyp/deca/clen 1-2x per year with proper PCT.
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My local shop tries to claim this stuff is amazing.
https://www.inteknutrition.com/intek...evolution.html
I've tried it like 3-4 times just for a motivation boost. For the first bit I feel amazing, good mood, energy,muscles feel fuller, then start to feel sorta crappy and feel fatter. It does make me super hungry though so might be just eating too much with it.
https://www.inteknutrition.com/intek...evolution.html
I've tried it like 3-4 times just for a motivation boost. For the first bit I feel amazing, good mood, energy,muscles feel fuller, then start to feel sorta crappy and feel fatter. It does make me super hungry though so might be just eating too much with it.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
tell me you've never ran gear without telling me you never ran gear lolcyp/deca/clen 1-2x per year with proper PCT.
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Originally Posted By manmore350⏩
Did lgd a few weeks ago, alongside enclo & dhea.What about SARMS ? Anyone have good results with SARMS?
Pumps for lgd were just STUPID.
- Had to take like 10 gram taurine to walk/workout
Lgd suppressed me, and dhea led to high e2. Oily skin + big acne
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tongkat ali is legit. mild, made me hornier and harder
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D-Aspartic acid OP it actually works
I ended up smelling like a giant walking onion, even my boogers smelled like onions
It may have worked but its ABSOLUTELY not worth smelling like a god damn onion 24/7
Originally Posted By multiplemiggs⏩
That was me and it was probably around 10 years agoSome miscer was trying onion juice one time. I remember reading the thread a few years ago. I think he didn't get much results though.
I ended up smelling like a giant walking onion, even my boogers smelled like onions
It may have worked but its ABSOLUTELY not worth smelling like a god damn onion 24/7
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Originally Posted By 4everalone⏩
Lol u wot m8?AI or PCT are a meme & not needed.
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
Not needed in real cycles & def not needed in fake otc ones
PCT not needed?
Tell me how I know you're retarded
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