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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Thats a weird question, he didnt stop at the ukraine border. He went over itIfhe is the problem? Of course he's the problem. It was Putin that ordered this invasion.
I'm no politician but I'm not sure how the west could deal with Putin directly. The fact remains, as you well know, that but for Putin's invasion death and destruction at the scale we're seeing would non existent. I have no dog in this fight - I support neither Ukraine nor Russia. But Russia is the aggressor here.
Did you miss my question - "Do you really think Putin would have stopped at the Ukraine border if no resistance was put forward?". Care to answer?
I'm no politician but I'm not sure how the west could deal with Putin directly. The fact remains, as you well know, that but for Putin's invasion death and destruction at the scale we're seeing would non existent. I have no dog in this fight - I support neither Ukraine nor Russia. But Russia is the aggressor here.
Did you miss my question - "Do you really think Putin would have stopped at the Ukraine border if no resistance was put forward?". Care to answer?
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05-02-2022, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
so we can't deal with putin directly.Ifhe is the problem? Of course he's the problem. It was Putin that ordered this invasion.
I'm no politician but I'm not sure how the west could deal with Putin directly. The fact remains, as you well know, that but for Putin's invasion death and destruction at the scale we're seeing would non existent. I have no dog in this fight - I support neither Ukraine nor Russia. But Russia is the aggressor here.
Did you miss my question - "Do you really think Putin would have stopped at the Ukraine border if no resistance was put forward?". Care to answer?
I'm no politician but I'm not sure how the west could deal with Putin directly. The fact remains, as you well know, that but for Putin's invasion death and destruction at the scale we're seeing would non existent. I have no dog in this fight - I support neither Ukraine nor Russia. But Russia is the aggressor here.
Did you miss my question - "Do you really think Putin would have stopped at the Ukraine border if no resistance was put forward?". Care to answer?
we obviously can't throw billions at the problem either as that really didn't deal with putin either.
it's really an impossible situation and we should of never gotten involved.
putin does not want to start chit with NATO.
so he would of stopped at NATO borders.
resistance or otherwise he is carrying out his plan and it is going to absolutely happen whether anyone wants it to or not and no amount of money or weapons put in the ukraines hands are going to change that so...
why drag it out?
05-02-2022, 04:38 PM
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05-02-2022, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I assumed he meant the western border.Thats a weird question, he didnt stop at the ukraine border. He went over it
05-02-2022, 04:43 PM
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05-02-2022, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
You are correct, that it what I meant. But my question was poorly worded so I understand Stizzel’s confusion. I will respond to your post when I get time this evening.I assumed he meant the western border.
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05-02-2022, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
Maybe, but putin hasnt even tried crossing that border so saying ukraine resistance stopped them is just as confusing.I assumed he meant the western border.
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05-02-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
wait... theres people out there who think ukrian "resistance" is the reason Russia isnt invading across into other countriesthroughukrain's western border?Maybe, but putin hasnt even tried crossing that border so saying ukraine resistance stopped them is just as confusing.
LMFAO
05-02-2022, 05:24 PM
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"The Battle of Iwo Jima took 36 days. The Battle of the Bulge lasted 40 days. And Ukraine has now beaten back the Russian military for 62 days. Ukraine’s valor and skill will go down in military history " - Sec Def Lloyd Austin
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs

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05-02-2022, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
Apparentlywait... theres people out there who think ukrian "resistance" is the reason Russia isnt invading across into other countriesthroughukrain's western border?
LMFAO
LMFAO
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05-02-2022, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
the confusing part (and i don't know if plano has said this) is i keep getting told russia is running out of army.Maybe, but putin hasnt even tried crossing that border so saying ukraine resistance stopped them is just as confusing.
so if that were true putin couldn't go any further if he wanted to.
05-02-2022, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
Why havent the ukrianains gained ground? Only lost? Why do they need a constant feed of guns and supplies?"The Battle of Iwo Jima took 36 days. The Battle of the Bulge lasted 40 days. And Ukraine has now beaten back the Russian military for 62 days. Ukraine’s valor and skill will go down in military history " - Sec Def Lloyd Austin
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs

Ghost of keiv nowhere to be found!
05-02-2022, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
Ahhhh that doesn’t mean anything, this is the R/P where everyone is an expert where their “sources” and “news” tell them more than the Sec Def could ever know."The Battle of Iwo Jima took 36 days. The Battle of the Bulge lasted 40 days. And Ukraine has now beaten back the Russian military for 62 days. Ukraine’s valor and skill will go down in military history " - Sec Def Lloyd Austin
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs
Now, 68 days and counting.
Whats taking Putin so long? srs

Edit: don’t forget the straw men, that’s actually one of the most valid tools to be “right.”
05-02-2022, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
I strongly disagree with this.resistance or otherwise he is carrying out his plan and it is going to absolutely happen whether anyone wants it to or not and no amount of money or weapons put in the ukraines hands are going to change that so...
why drag it out?
why drag it out?
In my opinion, Putin's plan will not be happened and in the end Ukraine will maintain their pre-invasion borders, the west will be stronger and Russia will be much much weaker.
Tldr:
Putin is adding more countries to the western alliance
America's allies are our greatest strength
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05-02-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
How does Ukraine gain what they already have??Why havent the ukrianains gained ground? Only lost? Why do they need a constant feed of guns and supplies?
Ghost of keiv nowhere to be found!
Ghost of keiv nowhere to be found!
Russia isnt occupying anything dumbassMIKE TYSON: "When you see me smash somebody's skull, you'll enjoy it."
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
My God this. Russia military looks like a joke, NATO is more unified than ever, two neighboring countries on the fast track to joining, US taking center stage, Ukraine made out to be heroes anywhere that’s not Russia or China.I strongly disagree with this.
In my opinion, Putin's plan will not be happened and in the end Ukraine will maintain their pre-invasion borders, the west will be stronger and Russia will be much much weaker.
Tldr:
Putin is adding more countries to the western alliance
America's allies are our greatest strength
In my opinion, Putin's plan will not be happened and in the end Ukraine will maintain their pre-invasion borders, the west will be stronger and Russia will be much much weaker.
Tldr:
Putin is adding more countries to the western alliance
America's allies are our greatest strength
Alllllll according to plan.
It’s too much.
05-02-2022, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
Where's the Kyiv/northern front?Why havent the ukrianains gained ground? Only lost? Why do they need a constant feed of guns and supplies?
Ghost of keiv nowhere to be found!
Ghost of keiv nowhere to be found!
Where's the Moskva?
Where are half of the generals that were deployed?
Where are the "advances", meaning 99% that have been contested territory for almost a decade?
Where are the elite VDV drops?
Why does the "world's number 2 army nuclear superpower" who decided to invade its inferior neighbour need Lybians, Chechens and press ganged militia to just fuk around?
When is the cauldron closing?
Why are all those logistical targets way beyond Russia's borders randomly combusting?
Brb "comrades, we have invaded our neighbour, so far they haven't managed to counter-invade us, so it's all harasho"
05-02-2022, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
They're invested in this fantasy of evil murdering russians lead by a maniac that will stop at nothing to further his dreams of conquest, which means that the only possible explanation for the time spent and limited ground taken is that russia is depletedthe confusing part (and i don't know if plano has said this) is i keep getting told russia is running out of army.
so if that were true putin couldn't go any further if he wanted to.
so if that were true putin couldn't go any further if he wanted to.
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05-02-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
and what will be left of the ukraine if and when that actually happens?I strongly disagree with this.
In my opinion, Putin's plan will not be happened and in the end Ukraine will maintain their pre-invasion borders, the west will be stronger and Russia will be much much weaker.
Tldr:
Putin is adding more countries to the western alliance
America's allies are our greatest strength
In my opinion, Putin's plan will not be happened and in the end Ukraine will maintain their pre-invasion borders, the west will be stronger and Russia will be much much weaker.
Tldr:
Putin is adding more countries to the western alliance
America's allies are our greatest strength
how will it actually happen?
ukraine can't do it alone and even if he is adding more countries to the western alliance nobody in that alliance is actually doing something that makes an actual difference.
05-02-2022, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By ispy⏩
Source: CNN.You're about as gullible as it gets bro.
If you're turning to CNN for news das not it.
Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
This lol.20,000 posts on this forum and I bet half of those are in this thread
Just lmao @ the state of your mental health
Putin keep you up at night too?
Be the good little cuck you are and go defend your wives homeland
CNN and their “contacts”
LMAO
Just lmao @ the state of your mental health
Putin keep you up at night too?
Be the good little cuck you are and go defend your wives homeland
CNN and their “contacts”
LMAO
Originally Posted By chalup⏩
It's part of war - you win some, you lose some.Your wife's chit hole country is getting picked apart bro. Das it mane.
ALSO, your wife's glorious chit holy country (and your favourite news source CNN, BBC, etc.) lied about GHOST OF KIEV;
https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/heroic...kraine-admits/
Pathetic as fukc lmao.
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05-02-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Slavbrahh⏩
nypost.com as a source ? Lmfao you stupid orc surprised you didn’t use rt.com or russian MOD twitter. Keep copingSource: CNN.
You're about as gullible as it gets bro.
If you're turning to CNN for news das not it.
This lol.
It's part of war - you win some, you lose some.
Your wife's chit hole country is getting picked apart bro. Das it mane.
ALSO, your wife's glorious chit holy country (and your favourite news source CNN, BBC, etc.) lied about GHOST OF KIEV;
https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/heroic...kraine-admits/
Pathetic as fukc lmao.
You're about as gullible as it gets bro.
If you're turning to CNN for news das not it.
This lol.
It's part of war - you win some, you lose some.
Your wife's chit hole country is getting picked apart bro. Das it mane.
ALSO, your wife's glorious chit holy country (and your favourite news source CNN, BBC, etc.) lied about GHOST OF KIEV;
https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/heroic...kraine-admits/
Pathetic as fukc lmao.
05-02-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Slavbrahh⏩
According to this dude it's already overSource: CNN.
You're about as gullible as it gets bro.
If you're turning to CNN for news das not it.
This lol.
It's part of war - you win some, you lose some.
Your wife's chit hole country is getting picked apart bro. Das it mane.
ALSO, your wife's glorious chit holy country (and your favourite news source CNN, BBC, etc.) lied about GHOST OF KIEV;
https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/heroic...kraine-admits/
Pathetic as fukc lmao.
You're about as gullible as it gets bro.
If you're turning to CNN for news das not it.
This lol.
It's part of war - you win some, you lose some.
Your wife's chit hole country is getting picked apart bro. Das it mane.
ALSO, your wife's glorious chit holy country (and your favourite news source CNN, BBC, etc.) lied about GHOST OF KIEV;
https://nypost.com/2022/05/01/heroic...kraine-admits/
Pathetic as fukc lmao.
Remember that story about the azovs sending pics of dead soldiers to their mothers? Well according to this guy russian soldiers are giving captured ukrainian soldiers food, medicine, etc and then letting them call their parents to tell them how well they're being treated, so they'll spread the word and foment a favorable sentiment towards russia.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
that doesn't doesn't really make sense though.They're invested in this fantasy of evil murdering russians lead by a maniac that will stop at nothing to further his dreams of conquest, which means that the only possible explanation for the time spent and limited ground taken is that russia is depleted
even a legit madman wouldn't of begun this war if that is all the military he had.
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
Well a madman would do things that are mad and i think that qualifies. The issue for me is that putin's take on ukraine has been consistent for at least 20 years. He's doing exactly what he said he would if provoked - take over eastern ukraine. This idea that people that get everything wrong read his mind and what he really wants is to invade europe seems nuts to me. And when you raise these questions with them they just start screeching about kremlin spies which just heightens that sense of insanity.that doesn't doesn't really make sense though.
even a legit madman wouldn't of begun this war if that is all the military he had.
even a legit madman wouldn't of begun this war if that is all the military he had.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
There are decades' worth of hard evidence for all of that, schizo.They're invested in this fantasy of evil murdering russians lead by a maniac that will stop at nothing to further his dreams of conquest, which means that the only possible explanation for the time spent and limited ground taken is that russia is depleted
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
Did you miss the part where his generals told him Ukraine would surrender and welcome Russians? Why do you think hundreds of paratroopers were dropped on the outskirts of Kiev within the first 72 hours? Anyone with a brain can see that Poots thought most would defect INSIDE Kiev, the paratroopers would secure Hostomel airport, and he would fly in a mass amount of equipment and personal to secure Kiev and declare victory. This was literally his “special military operation”. It failed massively, and has continued to fail at every single point. About the only victory Poots can declare right now is Mauripol, even after both sides suffered massive losses and Russians killed 20,000+ civilians. He hasn’t and can’t secure the entire Donbass region, and he won’t be able to make Ukraine a land locked Country.that doesn't doesn't really make sense though.
even a legit madman wouldn't of begun this war if that is all the military he had.
even a legit madman wouldn't of begun this war if that is all the military he had.
SO if he hasn’t used his entire military for whatever insane reason, when do you expect him to use it? You have to almost be brain damaged or mentally retarded to actually believe he isn’t using the full force of his military. Do you think they meant to have their flagship Moshka sank? Do you think they are OK with cities inside of Russia getting bombed daily? Why aren’t they using their “full force” to at least stop attacks inside their fukking border?
Here’s a hint, they can’t. They have a shiet tier military that has laundered probably over 50% of their military budget directly into the generals pockets and not on what it was supposed to be used on.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
It's American involvement (weaponry and intel) inflicting overly inflated results for Ukraine.Where's the Kyiv/northern front?
Where's the Moskva?
Where are half of the generals that were deployed?
Where are the "advances", meaning 99% that have been contested territory for almost a decade?
Where are the elite VDV drops?
Why does the "world's number 2 army nuclear superpower" who decided to invade its inferior neighbour need Lybians, Chechens and press ganged militia to just fuk around?
When is the cauldron closing?
Why are all those logistical targets way beyond Russia's borders randomly combusting?
Brb "comrades, we have invaded our neighbour, so far they haven't managed to counter-invade us, so it's all harasho"
Where's the Moskva?
Where are half of the generals that were deployed?
Where are the "advances", meaning 99% that have been contested territory for almost a decade?
Where are the elite VDV drops?
Why does the "world's number 2 army nuclear superpower" who decided to invade its inferior neighbour need Lybians, Chechens and press ganged militia to just fuk around?
When is the cauldron closing?
Why are all those logistical targets way beyond Russia's borders randomly combusting?
Brb "comrades, we have invaded our neighbour, so far they haven't managed to counter-invade us, so it's all harasho"
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
well a nuts man would do something nuts like invade europe.Well a madman would do things that are mad and i think that qualifies. The issue for me is that putin's take on ukraine has been consistent for at least 20 years. He's doing exactly what he said he would if provoked - take over eastern ukraine. This idea that people that get everything wrong read his mind and what he really wants is to invade europe seems nuts to me. And when you raise these questions with them they just start screeching about kremlin spies which just heightens that sense of insanity.

05-02-2022, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
No answers.It's American involvement (weaponry and intel) inflicting overly inflated results for Ukraine.
Trying to move goalposts.
Ackchyually it's American involvement so it doesn't count.
Ackchyually if I try to be vague as usual I can pretend that the results that don't count are "overly inflated" either way.
Ok memecope.
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