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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine WW3 thread; Soys and propaganda edition - Part 3

post 1660858023 05-06-2022, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Mr
I think it's unlikely since the risk/reward ratio is highly unfavourable.
Well, its more unlikely that ukraine is doing it. We wont know for sure for 5‐10 years if ever. Seems reminiscent of cia/mi6 shenanigans in the middle east
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I can just imagine our response if someone helped iraqis kill our generals after we violated their sovereign borders
The orcs were paying the terrorists bounties in the Middle East to kill American troops…ain’t nothing wrong with a little payback. Was never confirmed but probably true
post 1660858193 05-06-2022, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
I wonder how the american howtizers are going to do...Anyone seen those french caesars?
Gonna be some major LOL time when some drunk Ukie obliterates an apartment building and blames it on Russians because we are giving them equipment they've never trained on before.
post 1660858273 05-06-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By SUCIO⏩
The orcs were paying the terrorists bounties in the Middle East to kill American troops…ain’t nothing wrong with a little payback. Was never confirmed but probably true
You know that wasn't real right? No wonder you Ukie lovers take ever Twitter post as fact.
post 1660858303 05-06-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By SUCIO⏩
The orcs were paying the terrorists bounties in the Middle East to kill American troops…ain’t nothing wrong with a little payback. Was never confirmed but probably true
Even biden called that fake news

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...admin-n1264215
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Even biden called that fake news

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...admin-n1264215
I said it was never confirmed who would ever trust an orc anyways.

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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
You know that wasn't real right? No wonder you Ukie lovers take ever Twitter post as fact.
Ukraine cucks lack any logical thinking

Same reason they believe the story’s of the ghost of Kiev lmao
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Well, its more unlikely that ukraine is doing it. We wont know for sure for 5‐10 years if ever. Seems reminiscent of cia/mi6 shenanigans in the middle east
Besides the confirmed Ukrainian helicopter and drone strikes that were carried out beyond Russia's borders it's obvious that the hundreds of thousands of people who were randomly relocated over the past decades and who are wholly indistinguishable from the original populace wouldn't be able to carry out sabotage missions and it must have been Billy Bob and Nigel who had to plant explosives at all those places.

Not to mention the tons of Russians who aren't exactly keen on dying for some retarded arbitrary special military operation.
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Originally Posted By SUCIO⏩
I said it was never confirmedwho would ever trust an orc anyways.

If you trust ANY government you're doing it wrong
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Besides the confirmed Ukrainian helicopter and drone strikes that were carried out beyond Russia's borders it's obvious that the hundreds of thousands of people who were randomly relocated over the past decades and who are wholly indistinguishable from the original populace wouldn't be able to carry out sabotage missions and it must have been Billy Bob and Nigel who had to plant explosives at all those places.

Not to mention the tons of Russians who aren't exactly keen on dying for some retarded arbitrary special military operation.
I'm open to the possibility of an anti russia terror cell operating inside of Russia's borders but based on the timing and location of the fires it's extremely unlikely. Maybe with help/direction from western secret services but at that point we're quibbling.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I'm open to the possibility of an anti russia terror cell operating inside of Russia's borders but based on the timing and location of the fires it's extremely unlikely. Maybe with help/direction from western secret services but at that point we're quibbling.
With many of them being thousands of kilometres behind the borders? Most likely just disillusioned locals fighting back against the oppressive fascist government.

I mean unless you have some sources.
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Originally Posted By B.O.L.A.⏩
I don't think anyone here is actually advocating the US government involve itself, meaning boots on the ground, planes in the air.

So tell us, what do youreallywant?
I am advocating for full boots on the ground support by the US government; planes in the air and everything. srs.

If we're going to invest this much, might as well invest all the way.

I liked our strategy so far, where Ukrainians have to defend their own land, which they have and proven themselves to care about their own country. I think with all of the West's support, we could create a great long lasting allyship in the Ukrainian people by helping them put an end to this now.
Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Well, its more unlikely that ukraine is doing it. We wont know for sure for 5‐10 years if ever. Seems reminiscent of cia/mi6 shenanigans in the middle east
I would guess the Ukrainians could be setting the fires, they probably have a good understanding of Russian infrastructure and with Western help, I would gather the Ukrainians are best suited to blend in and sabotage or Pro-Ukrainian Russians.
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post 1660860433 05-06-2022, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Ukraine cucks lack any logical thinking

Same reason they believe the story’s of the ghost of Kiev lmao
What happened to the bio labs you putincels were claiming?
post 1660860483 05-06-2022, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
We're already involved sending money and weapons, implementing sanctions, helping ukraine target generals, starting fires in russia. Our involvement has been steadily increasing
Starting fires in Russia. Please explain how you find out the US is involved in that. Does nearly every post of yours has blatantly false information.
post 1660860503 05-06-2022, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Well, its more unlikely that ukraine is doing it. We wont know for sure for 5‐10 years if ever. Seems reminiscent of cia/mi6 shenanigans in the middle east
Disagree, I think it's very plausible that Ukraine is working directly with Ukranians in Russia or that Ukranians are expressing their discontent with the invasion. Direct action from the US on Russian soil would be just as provocative as a no-fly zone over Ukraine, so if you're going to torch a factory you may as well go full scorched Earth and spend the 3 days it would take to annilihate the Russian invasion force.

EDIT

Look at this way, let's say the US invaded Mexico, levelled Mexican cities and began annexing the country. It's highly likely that Mexicans in the US would attack soft targets as a means of protest.
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post 1660861323 05-06-2022, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Mr
Disagree, I think it's very plausible that Ukraine is working directly with Ukranians in Russia or that Ukranians are expressing their discontent with the invasion. Direct action from the US on Russian soil would be just as provocative as a no-fly zone over Ukraine, so if you're going to torch a factory you may as well go full scorched Earth and spend the 3 days it would take to annilihate the Russian invasion force.

EDIT

Look at this way, let's say the US invaded Mexico, levelled Mexican cities and began annexing the country. It's highly likely that Mexicans in the US would attack soft targets as a means of protest.
Yeah but look at whats been attacked, and how it happened all at once. A bunch of pissed off civilians wouldn't be that coordinated. I think if that is the case they have outside help

Besides the cia loves doing that kind of stuff and they have all the excuse they need with this conflict
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Russian officials visited occupied town of Kherson and vowed that Russia will never leave it. They are either going to make a puppet Ukrainian regime or (most likely) they are going to annex every Ukrainian territory that they took.

That has got to suck so bad for ethnic Ukrainians. Seeing your homeland just get erased and having your flag replaced by the Russian one.

Would rather die fighting than live under some poverty oligarchy.
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^^

Shame Ukraine didn't have a few A10s to fly over the 60km Russian traffic jam early in the war.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
I am advocating for full boots on the ground support by the US government; planes in the air and everything. srs.

If we're going to invest this much, might as well invest all the way.

I liked our strategy so far, where Ukrainians have to defend their own land, which they have and proven themselves to care about their own country. I think with all of the West's support, we could create a great long lasting allyship in the Ukrainian people by helping them put an end to this now.

I would guess the Ukrainians could be setting the fires, they probably have a good understanding of Russian infrastructure and with Western help, I would gather the Ukrainians are best suited to blend in and sabotage or Pro-Ukrainian Russians.
Hey bro, if you are advocating for boots on the ground against Russia, you are by all means welcome to go there and fight.

But don't get the rest of the US involved.

Also, make sure you state that you are of British decent, not American decent. Because the US doesn't recognize you as a citizen if you choose to do something as stupid as representing the US fighting against the Russians.

Yea, you're pretty dumb now that you think about it huh.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Hey bro, if you are advocating for boots on the ground against Russia, you are by all means welcome to go there and fight.

But don't get the rest of the US involved.

Also, make sure you state that you are of British decent, not American decent. Because the US doesn't recognize you as a citizen if you choose to do something as stupid as representing the US fighting against the Russians.

Yea, you're pretty dumb now that you think about it huh.
We've been involved in this before P00t even sent one piece of ordinance in Ukraine's direction. We don't want to be in a war with Russia, but we also don't want to be in a world where larger countries can annex smaller countries, invade freely, and browbeat and inveigle on the world stage with no consequences. That's a dangerous precedent which could destabilise international politics.



Prior to this kicking off, there were buildup and talks as preventative measure so there was no war in Ukraine, by promising that we would do things to Russia's anus it could not even conceive of. Since that didn't work, we're in the cure phase by galvanising the Western world against a dictatorial sociopath.


The US has had a historical interest in expanding its influence in areas of Europe before this anyway. Through multiple initiatives like setting up democracy, establishing NATO defence systems etc. and mogging a major world power already in decline helps the US' position on the world stage after Trump made it a laughing stock.


US has been involved with squabbles in other countries since time immemorial. Not a new thing by any means.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Hey bro, if you are advocating for boots on the ground against Russia, you are by all means welcome to go there and fight.

But don't get the rest of the US involved.

Also, make sure you state that you are of British decent, not American decent. Because the US doesn't recognize you as a citizen if you choose to do something as stupid as representing the US fighting against the Russians.

Yea, you're pretty dumb now that you think about it huh.
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"Uhhh.... is everything okay in Ukraine? Soldiers seem to be a little on edge, literally losing it and shooting at civilians that anger them. These people are not a professional army at all. Bandits."
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huh, wonder what the npcs next telemetry update will contain for an excuse now that theyre gonna have to move the goalpost again lol
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"The RSOTM ******** channel run by Wagner private military contractors currently in Ukraine said that either “there will be a mobilization or we will lose the war.” They think they need 600-800k people to defeat Ukraine."




https://t.me/grey_zone/13960

So here's the deal: I'm not interested in what Volodin said at all. There will be mobilization or we will lose the war. It takes 600-800 thousand people to defeat Urkaine.

Whoever says that you don't need a lot of men in a modern war is just being silly. No matter how high-precision weapons, only infantry goes first.



https://liveuamap.com/?zoom=12&ll=50...57907873392106

Ukrainian army liberated Oleksandrivka, Fedorivka, Ukrainka, Shestakove, Peremoha and part of the village of Cherkaski Tyshky in the Kharkiv region - the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


Same story, Russian ********:

The Ukrainian Armed Forces' offensive in northern Kharkiv: Situation as of 19:00 on 6 May 2022

▪️After the withdrawal of Russian Armed Forces units from Stary Saltov, the withdrawal of troops from the northeastern outskirts of Kharkiv was, alas, a matter of time. After AFU DRGs blew up the bridge over the Murom River between Russkiye Tishki and Cherkasskiye Tishki, the threat of encirclement became evident.

▪️In order to prevent the Russian Armed Forces from being locked in the cauldron, the command decided to withdraw Russian units from Tsirkun, Cherkasskiye Tishki, and Liptsy.

▪️The forward units of the AFU entered Liptsy this morning. At that time, the RF Armed Forces were no longer in the settlement: the units had withdrawn to the north. In fact, the Russian Armed Forces now control a 7-8-kilometer buffer zone north of Kharkiv.

▪️ A cleanup is underway in Tsirkuny. Ukrainian units are opening basements, checking phones of local residents, and looking for agents and informants of the Russian troops.

https://t.me/rybar/32276




Another day, another ship (this time a small landing one) Bayraktar'd. Location is once again Snake Island, looks like it was carrying replacements for the Tor surface to air missile the Ukrainians have previously destroyed.


New Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 strikes footage was just released.

The Russian Navy vessel that was destroyed seems to be Serna-class landing craft, per @kemal_115

https://mobile.twitter.com/Blue_Saur...48747608317952

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
We've been involved in this before P00t even sent one piece of ordinance in Ukraine's direction. We don't want to be in a war with Russia, but we also don't want to be in a world where larger countries can annex smaller countries, invade freely, and browbeat and inveigle on the world stage with no consequences. That's a dangerous precedent which could destabilise international politics.



Prior to this kicking off, there were buildup and talks as preventative measure so there was no war in Ukraine, by promising that we would do things to Russia's anus it could not even conceive of. Since that didn't work, we're in the cure phase by galvanising the Western world against a dictatorial sociopath.


The US has had a historical interest in expanding its influence in areas of Europe before this anyway. Through multiple initiatives like setting up democracy, establishing NATO defence systems etc. and mogging a major world power already in decline helps the US' position on the world stage after Trump made it a laughing stock.


US has been involved with squabbles in other countries since time immemorial. Not a new thing by any means.
I'm starting to believe you're trolling now by deliberately opposing any views. Just like in the other thread saying the "Great Reset" has no nefarious motives when it's clear it's their policies driving inflation.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61357256

Italy has ordered the seizure of a $700m yacht linked to Russia's President Vladimir Putin.

The Scheherazade has been undergoing repairs at a port in Tuscany since September last year. Italy's finance ministry said that the boat's owner had ties to "prominent elements of the Russian government".

It is being seized under EU sanctions brought over Russia's invasion of Ukraine that have seen other vessels confiscated. The exact owner of the Scheherazade has not been established but US officials told the New York Times it could belong to Russia's president.

Supporters of the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny have also linked the 140m vessel to President Putin. Other reports suggest that the yacht, which has two helicopter landing pads and a swimming pool inside, is owned by Eduard Khudainatov, the former chief of Russian energy giant Rosneft who is not currently a target of EU sanctions.



https://www.mef.gov.it/en/ufficio-st...erazade-00001/
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was that gunboat destroyed by that drone?
I've seen people say it had minimal damage
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