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post 1660886353 05-07-2022, 11:42 AM
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Over decades and years all our tech evolved and got better. Ships, planes,cars etc. But when it comes to space rockets and such. It's like we're stuck at where we started. But yet space is funded in the billions each year and no progress. It makes u wonder.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
lol you idiots still think space is fake? i mean how dumb can you motherfukcers be? well , i mean its the misc ... so yea
Imagine being so stupid that you think this thread is about space being fake

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BRB- send people to the moon six times in three years



BRB- suddenly stop and decide to never go back for some reason
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Based on the mainstream models of what Earth and space are, it makes no sense.

Space is a near perfect vacuum. I.E no "gravity."


Quality bait, my man.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble


Quality bait, my man.
I said I.E "no gravity" to reinforce the point that the idea of relativity is null and void when you have two objects spinning at competing speeds in a perfect vacuum which would completely obliterate the shuttle upon entry if it even made it that far. Look at how space is shown in movies. Everything surrounding that is impossible.

Gravity is referenced a lot in understanding the space vacuum anyways.

Please enlighten us though. Prove my analysis wrong and how those parameters are possible for this to make it through. Or am I just not intelligent enough and not an expert so my mind can't comprehend this high level thinking?

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Originally Posted By nikonD70s
Over decades and years all our tech evolved and got better. Ships, planes,cars etc. But when it comes to space rockets and such. It's like we're stuck at where we started. But yet space is funded in the billions each year and no progress. It makes u wonder.
Well maybe you should try looking up things like the robotic exploration program of NASA, New Horizons, Cassini, Curiosity, Ingenuity. Ffs, we - as in humans - have a helicopter diking around on Mars and they will launch a multicopter whatever for Titan.
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BRB- send people to the moon six times in three years

BRB- suddenly stop and decide to never go back for some reason
US won the space race, the Soviets folded, the Moon base whatever was never going to become a thing so there was no point of redoing the same, insanely costly thing over and over for the same outcome that has minimal scientific value and would have been repeatedly more difficult to sell to the public. It wouldn't be difficult at all, just terribly costly and mostly pointless.
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the president calling the moon on the land line lmfao.



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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Space is a near perfect vacuum. I.E no "gravity."
Any thread relating to anything scientific is f'ing hilarious on the misc. How the hell do you think the moon orbits the earth and plants orbit the sun ffs. The gravitational field from earth on the ISS which is in space is ~89% of that on the Earth's surface, it orbits the earth because of earth's gravity. None of this has anything to do with vacuums.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
I said I.E "no gravity" to reinforce the point that the idea of relativity is null and void when you have two objects spinning at competing speeds in a perfect vacuum which would completely obliterate the shuttle upon entry if it even made it that far. Look at how space is shown in movies. Everything surrounding that is impossible.

Gravity is referenced a lot in understanding the space vacuum anyways.

Please enlighten us though. Prove my analysis wrong and how those parameters are possible for this to make it through. Or am I just not intelligent enough and not an expert so my mind can't comprehend this high level thinking?
"Analysis" - fukin' ded, some hodgepodge insane schizo bullchit cobbled together from tinfoil hatters.

"reinforce the point that the idea of relativity is null and void when you have two objects spinning at competing speeds in a perfect vacuum" - honestly don't have the slightest idea what this is supposed to mean

"Look at how space is shown in movies." - aight.

You're a dedicated one, I'll give you that.
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Originally Posted By messomi
the president calling the moon on the land line lmfao.



The guy filming had a much better camera than nasa . Maybe they should have borrowed his
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I think the best way to make up your mind is to go Cape Canaveral in Florida and visit NASA.

when you see that old rocket ships it almost seems incredible that they would even display them as they look so fake. like riveted sheet metal pods hurling through space and not breaking up up yet rocks asteroids break up...wtf? also completely cramped inside (energy? shyting? cold insulation?)
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Did they need an entire film set crew for "training"?
apparently, yes.
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Lol just lol at "fake moon landing" retards. Why is it so hard to understand that the 1960s NASA full of rocket scientists pulled from post-war Germany is perfectly capable of sending men to the moon and back but modern NASA full of shaniquas isn't?

Skimmed through the video and none of the backdrops on Earth with normal sun light are the same as the backdrops on the moon. The dust and sand when kicked up on earth has air resistance, because it's not a vacuum like on the moon, where the dust just falls. It's literally just some smoothbrain editing in "ready action" on top of the original footage.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
I said I.E "no gravity" to reinforce the point that the idea of relativity is null and void when you have two objects spinning at competing speeds in a perfect vacuum which would completely obliterate the shuttle upon entry if it even made it that far. Look at how space is shown in movies. Everything surrounding that is impossible.

Gravity is referenced a lot in understanding the space vacuum anyways.

Please enlighten us though. Prove my analysis wrong and how those parameters are possible for this to make it through. Or am I just not intelligent enough and not an expert so my mind can't comprehend this high level thinking?

Too late, you've already revealed your brainlet status showing that you have no idea of anything physical.
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Wait till you find out we are not on a spinning ball traveling through space at thousands of mph.
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Originally Posted By zknarc
Any thread relating to anything scientific is f'ing hilarious on the misc. How the hell do you think the moon orbits the earth and plants orbit the sun ffs. The gravitational field from earth on the ISS which is in space is ~89% of that on the Earth's surface, it orbits the earth because of earth's gravity. None of this has anything to do with vaccums.
I'm talking about the shuttle. The space between earth and the moon is motionless and has zero competing forces, correct? Let alone it is a trick question because a gaseous atmosphere cannot exist in a perfect vacuum. it isn't a container. Also "gravity" isn't a measurable thing. Hence why yearly physicists attack and try to refuse the idea of it. It is a theory. WE DON'T KNOW. You're basing this idea on the current idea of space which is an unknown.

The current model of space says the moon orbits the sun at 2.3k mph, while the earth rotates at 1k mph, while we are orbiting the sun at 67k mph, and our solar system is orbiting the galaxy at 490k mph. We can't even comprehend those speeds, let alone these things doing this in a perfect vacuum. Do you not understand the idea of a perfect vacuum? No forces exist.

The idea of space makes zero coherent sense. You have to go against all of your senses to believe that. Yet questioning it means you're retarded because you somehow don't understand it. No one understands it. No person has even seen 2.3k mph let alone the idea that a shuttle built of aluminum can survive going from a high pressure system to a low pressure system of earth spinning at 1k mph and then landing perfectly on something with no atmosphere at a competing speed of a supposed 2.3k mph through space which is a perfect vacuum that doesn't have any force.

You can't explain that. That's impossible based on our understanding no matter how you conjure it up theoretically and systematically.

This is a dumbed down version of space and the working of our solar system. Mind you, this is going at speeds the human mind can't comprehend or see. This is the mainstream model of space.

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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Lol just lol at "fake moon landing" retards. Why is it so hard to understand that the 1960s NASA full of rocket scientists pulled from post-war Germany is perfectly capable of sending men to the moon and back but modern NASA full of shaniquas isn't?

Skimmed through the video and none of the backdrops on Earth with normal sun light are the same as the backdrops on the moon. The dust and sand when kicked up on earth has air resistance, because it's not a vacuum like on the moon, where the dust just falls. It's literally just some smoothbrain editing in "ready action" on top of the original footage.
Imagine thinking with all this advancement in technology, and research, the modern humans are less capable than humans from decades ago. lmao I was like lmao
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Why does no ever talk about the logistics of keeping something like this quiet ?

There were THOUSANDS of people involved in making this happen.

They all were kept silent? No memos around ? No one kept anything ?
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My belief is that MAYBE we went to the moon but the astronauts couldn't get out of the craft or cameras could not work in that environment.

I read a fairly easy to understand report about why cameras could not work on the moon.

The notorious press conference with the astronauts when they came back looked very bad. They looked deflated like someone died and I made me wonder if upon return they saw all of this fake footage and were like---wtf!

Also, the US has no holidays or celebrations about the moon landing, but we have Columbus Day. He really had nothing to do with the US and you would think Moon Day would be a huge event, but it's not.

It's like the US is trying to make people forget about the whole thing.
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Biggest thing for me is that if it was faked, the Russians would have probably found out and used that to make the USA look retarded, but that never happened.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Space is a near perfect vacuum. I.E no "gravity."
Space being a vacuum has nothing to do with gravity. If there were no gravity in space, there'd be no orbits to begin with.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
ALSO our solar system is moving through space around our galaxy at 490,000 mph
You could do this ad infinitum. It doesn't matter. The moon's relative velocity to the Earth is what's relevant to landing on it (initially, obviously, as it becomes relative to the lander). You really only need to account for the gravitational interactions between the Earth, moon, and sun to get the level of precision that's needed.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
They also admit today that their ideas of space wouldn't really work without their idea of "dark matter."
This isn't relevant to landing on the moon. Again, you can predict the motion of planets within the solar system with far more precision than needed without accounting for the influence of dark matter.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
The space between earth and the moon is motionless and has zero competing forces, correct?
Correct, it's just held together by the power of Allah, Jesus and the CIA.
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Let alone it is a trick question because a gaseous atmosphere cannot exist in a perfect vacuum. it isn't a container.
Starting to think you have an issue with the obscure concept of gravity.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Also "gravity" isn't a measurable thing. Hence why yearly physicists attack and try to refuse the idea of it. It is a theory. WE DON'T KNOW.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
the moon orbits the sun
Uh huh.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Do you not understand the idea of a perfect vacuum? No forces exist.
Is this perfect vacuum above your neck?
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
The idea of space makes zero coherent sense. You have to go against all of your senses to believe that. Yet questioning it means you're retarded because you somehow don't understand it. No one understands it. No person has even seen 2.3k mph
Just because we laymen don't understand the Large Hadron Collider or a microwave oven does not mean it's fake space magic bullchit.
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
a shuttle built of aluminum
It's built of aluminum alloys, not melted down sporks from the cafeteria.
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going from a high pressure system to a low pressure system of earth
Wat.
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You can't explain that. That's impossible based on our understanding no matter how you conjure it up theoretically and systematically.
You mean your understanding. Apparently the US just managed to play a prank on the whole planet 50 years ago and everyone just rolled with it. The Mars rovers and whatnot are also bullchit and were actually rolling around in an Area 51 sandbox overseen by Spielberg and the clones of Stanley Kubrick.


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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
"Analysis" - fukin' ded, some hodgepodge insane schizo bullchit cobbled together from tinfoil hatters.

"reinforce the point that the idea of relativity is null and void when you have two objects spinning at competing speeds in a perfect vacuum" - honestly don't have the slightest idea what this is supposed to mean

"Look at how space is shown in movies." - aight.

You're a dedicated one, I'll give you that.
I think he's cobbled a bunch of words together he finds sound clever when he should be taking a physics class with 12yo kids.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Correct, it's just held together by the power of Allah, Jesus and the CIA.



Starting to think you have an issue with the obscure concept of gravity.







Uh huh.



Is this perfect vacuum above your neck?



Just because we laymen don't understand the Large Hadron Collider or a microwave oven does not mean it's fake space magic bullchit.



It's built of aluminum alloys, not melted down sporks from the cafeteria.



Wat.



You mean your understanding. Apparently the US just managed to play a prank on the whole planet 50 years ago and everyone just rolled with it. The Mars rovers and whatnot are also bullchit and were actually rolling around in an Area 51 sandbox overseen by Spielberg and the clones of Stanley Kubrick.


I was seriously looking forward to your reply to this, but with this post you didn't really say anything ..
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
lol you idiots still think space is fake? i mean how dumb can you motherfukcers be? well , i mean its the misc ... so yea
There are religious type people that think space is fake, the Earth is flat, the sun is the size of a basketball, etc.

That's based on supernatural ideas related to not wanting to admit mideast religions are wrong.

However, I tend toward not believing the moon visits were real due to scientific reasons.

NASA said they lost, and never really had, plans for the rockets, meanwhile we have documents from hundreds of years ago. The FBI has thousand page reports on people like Elvis, but didn't secure the MOON ROCKET PLANS!?

How?

Also, I've seen the craft at the Smithsonian and they do not look like something that's real. They are tin boxes covered in gold foil...

There's lots of questions about radiation, computers, the ability to navigate, get in and out of the craft, they brought a CAR to the moon, and it all seems like a lot.

Moon rocks proved to be FROM EARTH and so they reformulated how the moon was formed. Previously, it was said to be formed the same as other planets, which is condensed matter. After the moon rocks showed they were from Earth they said the moon was part of Earth that split off after something smashed it.

So, that seems like some bullsh!t.

There's lots to think about.

Like I said in another post, I think it's partly true but I am not sure which parts.

Maybe we literally just landed and left.
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Originally Posted By 2010JW
I was seriously looking forward to your reply to this, but with this post you didn't really say anything ..
Bro I'm as far away from a rocket scientist or whatever as possible but I honestly cannot even begin to understand what he's trying to say besides implying that landing shuttles would just randomly fall apart as soon as they try to attempt a landing because x zillion mph versus y gorillion mph and perfect vacuum no forces.

There are still fuking space laser mirrors or whatever on the Moon that were left there by American and Soviet missions half a century ago, would be pretty fuking hard to fake those.

Apollo 11 had something close to half a million peeps working on it, the US completed a total of 6 landings - so apparently 6 consecutive fake crap missions - with men stepping foot on the Moon while the Soviets ran unmanned missions where they have observed everything the others have left.

Them being fake is simply not possible.
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Originally Posted By cjr169
Why does no ever talk about the logistics of keeping something like this quiet ?

There were THOUSANDS of people involved in making this happen.

They all were kept silent? No memos around ? No one kept anything ?
Did you ever play an online role playing game?

If you are online playing Game X, what is everyone going?

They are all participating in the events of the game and could tell the same story about what happened.

The people involved in the moon landing could easily have been duped by a simulation. It is in fact a job at the CIA to run and invent all kinds of simulations of attacks. They even have plans in case aliens attack. They know that's not going to happen but it's like a thought exercise.

The CIA probably has plans to fight Belgium if they have to.

Anyway, have all the technicians at NASA involved in a simulation would be easy.

I also noted that NASA has NO PLANS for how the rocket was made. I mean where has a government agency not kept files? In addition, it was the most important and attention getting project in US history, so they not having plans is really weird.

As I've said, the FBI had huge files on actors and singers, but they were guarding the f@cking moon rocket plans...come on.
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How can the moon landing be real if the earth is flat
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Originally Posted By cjr169
Why does no ever talk about the logistics of keeping something like this quiet ?

There were THOUSANDS of people involved in making this happen.

They all were kept silent? No memos around ? No one kept anything ?
People are easily brain washed.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Full blown schizo off his meds again



"NASA has NO PLANS for how the rocket was made." - so did they just randomly conjure all those 360+ feet tall Saturn Vs from the shadow realm via the Necronomicon, Washington's pinky bone, kundalini magic and the power of capitalism or did they use holographic projectors with smoke generators?
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