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post 1661235023 05-13-2022, 10:33 AM
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How come Russia doesnt just join NATO?

NATO was founded to counter the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist anymore since 1991 because communism failed.

However, in what looks like they lost the plot but wanted to continue getting tax payer money, NATO has only moved eastward, surrounding the former Soviet Union, pointing missles and hostile military bases closer and closer to the sovereign nation of Russia.

So the easy peaceful solution is for Russia to join NATO, whats the problem
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Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
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Putin actually proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO to Bill Clinton back in the 90s, to which Clinton refused. It's because in politics, having a good boogeyman is necessary, which Russia plays that part very well. China at that time was too weak to be an effective boogeyman. And even today, China really can't be a good boogeyman because too many US companies have financial interests in China.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
Exactly. Dismantling NATO would be a better start than letting based Russia join it.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
This, the russia=based was the most inaccurate meme of the century
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post 1661236343 05-13-2022, 10:56 AM
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Why would they join Nato when Nato is a defence against Russia and its allies?

Nato is at conflict with literally every russian ally.
Every russian ally is a dictatorship Remember?
Says the same people who are allied with Saudi Arabia where the Prince sends hit squads to kill & chop up journalists
Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
Who has invaded more countries the last 20 years. Nato or Russia? Nato has caused so much destruction by arming & funding guerrilla terrorist groups to get «dictators» overthrown. Meanwhile the state of the countries afterwards is Worse than ever. Atleast US/NATO got them oil contracts tho right???
Ukraine has since 2014 been ruled by CIA which is why US appointed government officials etc for them. Its all about natural resources. This Russia hate is pure propaganda! Which is why NATO never cares about genocides in poor countries without natural resources
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post 1661236363 05-13-2022, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
and how is that any different from America?
post 1661237673 05-13-2022, 11:19 AM
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because soviet union collapsing doesnt make its core country suddenly become a clean slate fresh country hatchling
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post 1661238023 05-13-2022, 11:25 AM
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It would be cool if Jamica joined Nato
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
NATO has only moved eastward
I'll try to explain the "NATO moving eastward" thing to you in a badly drawn meme, that should be at your level.



Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
pointing missles and hostile military bases closer and closer to the sovereign nation of Russia.
Still never happened
Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
So the easy peaceful solution is for Russia to join NATO, whats the problem
Ask the Russians. There is a very clear set of requirements and procedure to apply to NATO. First step is growing up and submitting a serious application.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Putin actually proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO to Bill Clinton back in the 90s, to which Clinton refused. It's because in politics, having a good boogeyman is necessary, which Russia plays that part very well. China at that time was too weak to be an effective boogeyman. And even today, China really can't be a good boogeyman because too many US companies have financial interests in China.
Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
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post 1661240293 05-13-2022, 12:06 PM
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[QUOTE=BraneyGumble post_id=1661238673]I'll try to explain the "NATO moving eastward" thing to you in a badly drawn meme, that should be at your level.


[img]https://i.ibb.co/V9mMCkf/NATO.png[img]




Still never happened




Ask the Russians. There is a very clear set of requirements and procedure to apply to NATO. First step is growing up and submitting a serious application.[/QUOTE][img]https://i.imgur.com/tYF3fdVl.jpg[/img]
post 1661240403 05-13-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Putin actually proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO to Bill Clinton back in the 90s, to which Clinton refused. It's because in politics, having a good boogeyman is necessary, which Russia plays that part very well. China at that time was too weak to be an effective boogeyman. And even today, China really can't be a good boogeyman because too many US companies have financial interests in China.
Do you pull these out of your ass, or what?

The conversation couldn't even have happened "back in the 90s", since Putin was only appointed mid 1999 and the "talk" between them happened during the last months of Clinton's presidency in 2001, where Putin made a throwaway remark and Clinton called his bullchit by saying that he's not opposed to the idea. That was that. There was also maybe one or two other times when Putin touched on the subject but it was just the usual bullchittery.

If they were serious about it they would have submitted a formal application and then the ball would have been in NATO's court.
post 1661240563 05-13-2022, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
No retort after being proven wrong
I accept your concession.
post 1661240893 05-13-2022, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Do you pull these out of your ass, or what?

The conversation couldn't even have happened "back in the 90s", since Putin was only appointed mid 1999 and the "talk" between them happened during the last months of Clinton's presidency in 2001, where Putin made a throwaway remark and Clinton called his bullchit by saying that he's not opposed to the idea. That was that. There was also maybe one or two other times when Putin touched on the subject but it was just the usual bullchittery.

If they were serious about it they would have submitted a formal application and then the ball would have been in NATO's court.
Putin proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO back in the 90s...

You're too emotional to engage in an intellectual conversation.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-in-his-rule
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Putin actually proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO to Bill Clinton back in the 90s, to which Clinton refused. It's because in politics, having a good boogeyman is necessary, which Russia plays that part very well. China at that time was too weak to be an effective boogeyman. And even today, China really can't be a good boogeyman because too many US companies have financial interests in China.
This. Everyone makes money.

Even Biden’s blaming Russia for the inflation in America.

What did the sanctions that Biden imposed on Russia do? Nothing.
post 1661241003 05-13-2022, 12:19 PM
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NATO has no relevancy without a Russian boogeyman.... and without a boogeyman, there's no way for defense contractors to sell weapons and no way to sell predatory loans for infrastructure rebuilding contracts...
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Putin proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO back in the 90s...

You're too emotional to engage in an intellectual conversation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-in-his-rule
Very first paragraph


"Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance."

skip one, go to third paragraph

"The Labour peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, whobecame Russian president in 2000. “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’ And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’ And he said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’”"


Good job getting blown the fuk out by your own source that flat out states that Putin threw a hissy fit.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Very first paragraph


"Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance."

skip one, go to third paragraph

"The Labour peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, whobecame Russian president in 2000. “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’ And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’ And he said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’”"


Good job getting blown the fuk out by your own source that flat out states that Putin threw a hissy fit.
You're simply too emotional to have a rational conversation. NATO will ultimately choose a Russian boogeyman over a Ukrainian ally once they feel that the country has been wrecked enough that they can offer predatory loans for infrastructure rebuilding projects.
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
You're simply too emotional to have a rational conversation. NATO will ultimately choose a Russian boogeyman over a Ukrainian ally once they feel that the country has been wrecked enough that they can offer predatory loans for infrastructure rebuilding projects.
Bro you've been fangirling Russia for no particular reason, were repeatedly caught posting made up bullchit and now that others talk crap about your big boy hero, you're projecting.

Sad.
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Why don’t Taiwan join China?
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The entire purpose of NATO is to fuk with Russia, lol why would they let him in?
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
I'll try to explain the "NATO moving eastward" thing to you in a badly drawn meme, that should be at your level.


Chechnyans weren't killing Russians at the time I guess. Lol
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Putin actually proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO to Bill Clinton back in the 90s, to which Clinton refused. It's because in politics, having a good boogeyman is necessary, which Russia plays that part very well. China at that time was too weak to be an effective boogeyman. And even today, China really can't be a good boogeyman because too many US companies have financial interests in China.
I thought terrorists were the boogeyman now?
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
Totally cool when our authoritarian ****hole invades it's not neighbors, amirite?
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Because NATO is an explicitly anti-Russian alliance. Why the phuck are Turkey, Ukraine, and Georgia all talking about joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization when every single one of them has to travel through at least three major bodies of water to get to the North Atlantic lmfao.

Any why didn't NATO accept Russia when Putin asked to join? Well, besides the fact that NATO is an explicitly anti-Russian alliance, NATO was afraid that Russia would just invoke Article Five the way that Turkey does to try to involve the whole of NATO in their own border crises.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Because it's an authoritarian sh*thole that invades its neighbours.
This poster not only drinks the MSM kool-aid, he gargles it down with their sloppy seconds.
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The question we all need to be asking is:

1. Is there anything we need that Russia has that they are keeping us from? (Vice versa)
2. What exact problem does Russia cause for us to exist?
3. Why are we enemies?

When you dig deeper you realize it's all just political manipulation from one side to the other.

It's all because Biden cannot make deals. Doesn't know how to negotiate.
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