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Thread: BREAKING: Wikileaks releases moon landing scenes filmed in Nevada desert

post 1661339973 05-15-2022, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
So where is the footage substantiating your claims? Or is this an "I remember seeing a footage, trust me bro" thing?
What do you want me to do about Youtube censoring and deleting anything they don't agree with? That's where everyone gets their videos from. Only old school documentaries have the true footage, not clips of it which Youtube permits.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
What do you want me to do about Youtube censoring and deleting anything they don't agree with? That's where everyone gets their videos from. Only old school documentaries have the true footage, not clips of it which Youtube permits.
Lmao, ok


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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Lmao, ok


The US flag didn't fall apart, wasn't made of some weak thin material and was on the moon thus moons gravity has to be factored in. In other words that experiment is pointless and of no relevance
post 1661341033 05-15-2022, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The US flag didn't fall apart, wasn't made of some weak thin material and was on the moon thus moons gravity has to be factored in. In other words that experiment is pointless and of no relevance
uh the point of that video wasnt the destruction of the flag, it was to show how things move in a vacuum when shaken.

Btw a pendulum in a vacuum pretty much goes on forever...there is still gravity, and obviously inertia.
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post 1661341203 05-15-2022, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The US flag didn't fall apart, wasn't made of some weak thin material and was on the moon thus moons gravity has to be factored in. In other words that experiment is pointless and of no relevance
Are you Adlerian's alt or is this your idea of trolling?
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Answer this is it hotter at 6am on earth or 3pm on earth?
What?

You need to lay off drinking.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
uh the point of that video wasnt the destruction of the flag, it was to show how things move in a vacuum when shaken.

Btw a pendulum in a vacuum pretty much goes on forever...there is still gravity, and obviously inertia.
How does a pendulum start swinging if it was stationary before and no one touched it in ages though
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Is this thread gonna go on forever? Surely there must be a way to prove one way or the other
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen⏩
Never seen anyone get ethered as bad as thealderian the last few days lmaoooo. Brutal lack of self awareness
How does it feel to post "bitchy" comments and be an uneducated retard at the same time?

I have dismissed all of the moronic points made in this thread.

My points are all about inconsistencies in the moon story and no ONE has been addressed.

The most complex response I got here was someone saying that it does not get hot on the moon when NASA reports it gets to be 400 degrees. When I posted links indicating this, there was no response and people continue to not know what heat was or how heat works.

I have posted links with people discussing how cameras and film could not survive in those conditions.

I have fully explained how moon rocks really couldn't be Earth rocks, but they are.

No one has touched that topic yet.

There's a CLEARLY FAKE and physically impossible moonwalk video in the Rogan link. No one can touch that one and the "smart" bitches here can't bring themselves to even talk about it, because they are like women in denial.

What we have is a bunch of hurt bitches in this thread.

The moon landing probably was fake or partly fake, and it's hard to handle.

The misc has been filled with pussies who don't lift, don't do anything in life, and have none of what they claim for YEARS now. We are seeing an example of that here.
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The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988.Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
I have no doubt he wont. This dude cannot admit anything he says is wrong, even though almost everything he is saying ITT is bull****. The actual surface brightness temperature data from Apollo 11 were posted ITT, clearly showing his "400deg F" number was way off. He has yet to admit he was wrong on that basic point. (speaking of acting like a man, manning up, and admitting mistakes.....huh. Dudes in delusional clown territory).
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
People haven't explained anything lol.

I'm literally quoting the specs for space suits so maybe you need to reconsider because you can't tell what is right from wrong. We have people in this saying things don't get hot in space, because they are idiots.

Meanwhile, the Nation Space Institute is saying it's 400 degrees on the moon and that's what the suits were made to deal with.

I have repeated this countless times because no one has anything of substance to respond with.
Called it lol. This dude continues to be delusional. He is clearly, and objectively wrong on this issue.

No, the moon surface temp wasnt close to 400deg F, much less the camera temp, much less the film temp.

On the moon in general near the equator, the temps at high noon reach some 400K(not F). But of course, for the eighty second time, Apollo 11 for example wasnt EVA anywhere near high noon.

Adlerian doesnt realize, or cant comprehend, that people throughout the thread have been pointing him to actual data recorded from the moon about surface temps. Apollo 11 data as mentioned, and Apollo 15 and 17 conducted large heat flow experiments. All of the temp data you can ever want from the moon from these experiments:https://academiccommons.columbia.edu...6/d8-5t4m-3713. All in complete disagreement with Adlerians bogus 400degF number.

A neat little summary of the different Apollo missions

https://www.workingonthemoon.com/WOT...lEnvrnmnt.html

(in disagreement with Adlerians 400degF number). Note Apollo 15-17 stayed longer, but even then elevation of sun was still less than 48deg by end of EVA. Apollo 11, the one everyone is focused on in here, the sun was less than 15deg elevation by the time they lifted off.Surface temps werent even close to 400degFin any of these scenarios, as Adlerian is wrongly claiming above. Note in that last link they even made a point to document any time some object was hot to the touch, of which nothing of note was mentioned from Apollo 11. In no situation here whatsoever were temps for a camera too high to operate, particularly since this is not a camera surrounded by super hot air, a point Adlerian cannot comprehend. He has explained nothing to anyone about how heating works....he doesnt understand how heat transfers in a vacuum by radiation and how different materials can significantly affect that. To repeat: Adlerian is untrained in pretty much any of this....he is babbling.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
How does it feel to post "bitchy" comments and be an uneducated retard at the same time?

I have dismissed all of the moronic points made in this thread.

My points are all about inconsistencies in the moon story and no ONE has been addressed.

The most complex response I got here was someone saying that it does not get hot on the moon when NASA reports it gets to be 400 degrees. When I posted links indicating this, there was no response and people continue to not know what heat was or how heat works.

I have posted links with people discussing how cameras and film could not survive in those conditions.

I have fully explained how moon rocks really couldn't be Earth rocks, but they are.

No one has touched that topic yet.

There's a CLEARLY FAKE and physically impossible moonwalk video in the Rogan link. No one can touch that one and the "smart" bitches here can't bring themselves to even talk about it, because they are like women in denial.

What we have is a bunch of hurt bitches in this thread.

The moon landing probably was fake or partly fake, and it's hard to handle.

The misc has been filled with pussies who don't lift, don't do anything in life, and have none of what they claim for YEARS now. We are seeing an example of that here.
You've been shown to be a flat out liar in multiple threads, and you've been called out there and basically deflected or started ignoring the thread. Extraordinary claims (like a 1048lbs x 3 squat) require extraordinary evidence.

I'm not uneducated, but okay (ironically my education is in physics lolz).. that's a lazy insult. There's no point in actually participating in this thread because it's not a debate in good faith though, it's simply a futile waste of time.

You've shown multiple times you think you know what you're talking about, but don't have more than a high school level of education in physics. You've been shown to be wrong about many things, but since you won't accept you're wrong the argument ultimately goes on forever. We're 774 pages in and nobody has conceded a thing, only the stupid or naïve are left actually arguing. I feel bad for numbersguy mostly tbh, he's clearly trying hard and putting together some good arguments, but ultimately his effort will amount to nothing but a waste of time.

Keep going though, it's hilarious
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
uh the point of that video wasnt the destruction of the flag, it was to show how things move in a vacuum when shaken.

Btw a pendulum in a vacuum pretty much goes on forever...there is still gravity, and obviously inertia.
How do you know how things in a vacuum move when shaken, lol.

I personally do not believe the flag was waving in a breeze because if the videos are fake, they would be in a locked sound stage.

The flag has a wire in it to stick out straight. You would need that on Earth or the moon.

It looks like there's a wire or weight in the bottom too that is moving around due to the guy screwing the pole into the ground.

It doesn't make sense there would be a strong breeze on a sound stage. Plus, the flag isn't fluttering like there's wind but rather stiffly moving like there's a supportive wire in the top and bottom.

Your vacuum comment is stupid.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Called it lol. This dude continues to be delusional. He is clearly, and objectively wrong on this issue.

No, the moon surface temp wasnt close to 400deg F, much less the camera temp, much less the film temp.

On the moon in general near the equator, the temps at high noon reach some 400K(not F). But of course, for the eighty second time, Apollo 11 for example wasnt EVA anywhere near high noon.
Again, you are accusing me of what is going on with you.

The National Space Association quoted the Moon temp at 400 where the astronauts were.

I have said this and posted it repeatedly.

If you disagree you need to notify the officials there and tell them to change it, lol.

YOU can't deal with being wrong, not me.

I am just pointing things out not telling people "facts" or what to believe.

You also couldn't handle the Rogan video and couldn't even TALK about the video segment I mentioned.

That's because you're some kind of semi-educated narcissist who is getting embarrassed and again, acting like a woman.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988.Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.
I believe the moon rocks are fake.

I think IF the astronauts went to the moon they couldn't safely get out of their craft and never did anything on the surface.

Another crazy video is of the craft taking off from the moon. They supposedly filmed that remotely and that looks very fake as well.

So, I don't know if we even went.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988.Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.
NPC mode right here. Pivot on to that next debunked talking point. Addressed many times in the thread, has no implication for real moon rocks or whether we went to the moon.
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
How do you know how things in a vacuum move when shaken, lol.
er basic physics?

(again, we have a guy who probably is lacking high school physics education rambling about these matters. This is the result).
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
Is this thread gonna go on forever? Surely there must be a way to prove one way or the other
It was proven over and over and over again that it was real and that there is no way that it could have been faked.

The thread is basically now close to 800 comments of:

A: Well fuk me, I always knew that the sky is green with yellow stripes and purple hexagons
B: No, it is actually blue
A: Lmao right, because you believe everything the government tells you, sheeple. Lmao. Fauci and Covid.
B: No, it really is blue, *insert scientific proof*
A: Lalala, it's still green, how come nobody can refute that
B: See above, more proof.
A: Well now you're just being emotional. Still no proof that it's blue
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
The National Space Association quoted the Moon temp at 400 where the astronauts were.
No it didnt. The vast links and data from NASA linked above do, however, show the temp was significantly less, and show you are wrong.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
NPC mode right here. Pivot on to that next debunked talking point. Addressed many times in the thread,has no implication for real moon rocks or whether we went to the moon.



er basic physics?

(again, we have a guy who probably is lacking high school physics education rambling about these matters. This is the result).
Strong smoothbrain ayyy lmao
If I bragged to you for years about how I grow the strongest weed in the world, never been done before. Then I gift you some and it turns out to be dried mint leaves, would you not question whether I was full of chit the whole time and didn't even grow any weed?
Or maybe you're just that gullible
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Strong smoothbrain ayyy lmao
If I bragged to you for years about how I grow the strongest weed in the world, never been done before. Then I gift you some and it turns out to be dried mint leaves, would you not question whether I was full of chit the whole time and didn't even grow any weed?
Or maybe you're just that gullible
The gullible one is the one here who is reading some questionable provenance, blindly believing it, and making conclusions about moon rocks in general based on what is known to be a sham rock. Luckily, the some 800 pounds of actual moon rock brought back exhibit noticeably different characters than terrestrial rock, as linked above.

Werent you the one who didnt understand the basic physics of relativity in that thread the other night, and had to have it explained to you? Edit, yephttps://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181360933. Thought your username sounded familiar.


Edit:
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
It was proven over and over and over again that it was real and that there is no way that it could have been faked.

The thread is basically now close to 800 comments of:

A: Well fuk me, I always knew that the sky is green with yellow stripes and purple hexagons
B: No, it is actually blue
A: Lmao right, because you believe everything the government tells you, sheeple. Lmao. Fauci and Covid.
B: No, it really is blue, *insert scientific proof*
A: Lalala, it's still green, how come nobody can refute that
B: See above, more proof.
A: Well now you're just being emotional. Still no proof that it's blue
Spot on
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
The gullible one is the one here who is reading some questionable provenance, blindly believing it, and making conclusions about moon rocks in general based on what is known to be a sham rock. Luckily, the some 800 pounds of actual moon rock brought back exhibit noticeably different characters than terrestrial rock, as linked above.

Werent you the one who didnt understand the basic physics of relativity in that thread the other night, and had to have it explained to you? Edit, yephttps://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181360933. Thought your username sounded familiar.


Edit:



Spot on
Time dilation and light speed have nothing to do with the moon landing, nice strawman though
Guess the moon is made of wood
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Time dilation and light speed have nothing to do with the moon landing, nice strawman though
Guess the moon is made of wood
No they dont, but Im not surprised someone who clearly isnt trained much in physics at all is in la la land on other issues of physics such as getting to the moon. (having to be explained things by "smoothbrains" about relativity...what does that make you then lol...lower than smoothbrain on the totem pole?). No the moon is not made of wood, and no that rock is not and never was a moon rock. But ignore those 800 pounds of Apollo rocks to advance your nonpoint agenda though.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Strong smoothbrain ayyy lmao
If I bragged to you for years about how I grow the strongest weed in the world, never been done before. Then I gift you some and it turns out to be dried mint leaves, would you not question whether I was full of chit the whole time and didn't even grow any weed?
Or maybe you're just that gullible
Really.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nether...ample_displays

The Netherlands Apollo 17 lunar sample display commemorative style plaque (10 by 14 inches) consists of one "Moon rock" particle specimen that was cut from lunar basalt 70017 and a Netherlands country flag. The basalt 70017 was collected by Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmitt on the Moon in 1972. Once lunar basalt 70017 was brought back to Earth from the Moon, the basalt Moon rock was cut up into small fragments of approximately 1 gram. The specimen was enveloped in a plastic ball and mounted on the wooden plaque along with the Netherlands country flag which had been taken to the moon and back by the crew of Apollo 17. The plaque was then distributed in 1973 by President Richard Nixon to the country of Netherlands as he did that year to 134 other countries worldwide (the same as for the Apollo 11 plaque gifts). This was done as a goodwill gesture to promote peace and harmony.


The Netherlands - and a chitload of other countries - received samples from Apollo 11 and 17 when Nixon was doing his PR shtick after the missions. They have been vetted, tested, whatever. The whole thing being a hoax hinges on Nixon gleefully handing out fake crap all over the world and hoping that nobody would find out in the coming years.


The "fake" Moon rocks were from some rando ambassador and one of the reasons they become suspicious was because they had actual Moon rocks on their hands.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
What?

You need to lay off drinking.
Answer the phucking question.

In the summer where you live on earth is it hotter at 6am or 3pm?
U
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There is really no point of arguing. Even if there's hard evidence and it's true. People won't believe it simply because the source isn't from the government. It all comes down to what YOU believe. What people need to do is have a open mind and look at both sides. I bet some of u that believe the moon landing is real are ones that didn't take the Vax because they believe the government is lying. So if u believe in one conspiracy. Whats so hard about believing we didn't land on the moon? Many conspiracy had came true. I remember people didn't believe in pizza gate years ago...then look at epstein. The world is a fcuk up place and you're being lied and manipulated everyday and u don't realize it.
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Originally Posted By nikonD70s⏩
There is really no point of arguing. Even if there's hard evidence and it's true. People won't believe it simply because the source isn't from the government. It all comes down to what YOU believe. What people need to do is have a open mind and look at both sides. I bet some of u that believe the moon landing is real are ones that didn't take the Vax because they believe the government is lying. So if u believe in one conspiracy. Whats so hard about believing we didn't land on the moon? Many conspiracy had came true. I remember people didn't believe in pizza gate years ago...then look at epstein. The world is a fcuk up place and you're being lied and manipulated everyday and u don't realize it.
On one hand, the fact that man went to the moon is not being gatekept by the govt. There are other govts around the world fact checking this through their own moon missions etc, as well as other avenues of evidence (be it private organizations utilizing the retroreflectors or studying moon rocks etc). But beyond that, when you look at the evidence as a whole, down to the sheer amount of documentation out there, all the data accumulated, everything, and how it paints this incredibly consistent, accurate picture of man landing on the moon, it's just silly to denounce this,. If there were some conspiracy theories that did turn out have truth over the history of civilization, it is silly to generalize that to conspiracy theories in general being true, and to give them serious consideration.....the Tonkin Gulf incident, Epstein, whatever does not give one ounce of credence to the Flat Earth conspiracy, and I dont spend a moment doubting that the earth is round because of it. As usual, the evidence will be the guide, and the evidence in terms of the moon landing is vast.
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Originally Posted By nikonD70s⏩
There is really no point of arguing. Even if there's hard evidence and it's true. People won't believe it simply because the source isn't from the government. It all comes down to what YOU believe. What people need to do is have a open mind and look at both sides. I bet some of u that believe the moon landing is real are ones that didn't take the Vax because they believe the government is lying. So if u believe in one conspiracy. Whats so hard about believing we didn't land on the moon? Many conspiracy had came true. I remember people didn't believe in pizza gate years ago...then look at epstein. The world is a fcuk up place and you're being lied and manipulated everyday and u don't realize it.
"muh open mind"
"muh both sides"
"the only thing that matters is what YOU believe"
"muh vaxx"
"muh Epstein"

Yep, another contrarian invalid who thinks he's being smart while refusing to do research and understanding facts. Move along.
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Lunar eclipse tonight boyos

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/map/2022-may-16
See you tomorrow
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
The flag is obviously on the moon. I saw pics.

But it's on you you just made the assertion. Now go into detail on the physics of why that flag cannot be on the moon. It would be helpful if you cite your sources. I don't believe your assertion and am hoping for a full page of back and forth here where you get at every angle here and prove to us that the flag is actually here on earth. TIA.
You saw the the pics? Why do you trust those pics after the government used pics in the Gulf of Tonkin lie?
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