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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
And waiting.Then maybe it's time to show irrefutable evidence.
I think that's what we all have been waiting 800 post to see.
I think that's what we all have been waiting 800 post to see.
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05-16-2022, 03:57 PM
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the space race was the ULTIMATE flex. It was basically putting the crown on the smartest, bravest, and best looking nation. Imagine taking that away... Imagine getting busted as a fraud... That nation would not only be the laughing stock of the entire fukking world, but the amount of distrust/fallout, would absolutely destroy that nation.What would be the point of proving the moon landing was fake? What good would that do?
srs question.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
The computers were more powerful than you know and they were specialized for specific tasks and were very robustImagine thinking they could do it 50 years ago but they "lost" the technology. And they haven't been able to do it in the 50 years since then. All of that with computers that had less computing power than my current fridge.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
everything was very special and very good.The computers were more powerful than you know and they were specialized for specific tasks and were very robust
it was so good that we destroyed it all and forgot how to recreate it. and you’ve yet to provide irrefutable information besides trust the big govt cawk.
meanwhile the private sector is building reusable rockets to get to the ISS in 2022. something tells me government employees were not capable of getting to the moon 53 years ago and chitty fake film footage is not proof of anything.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
This is what someone that doesn't understand what specialization looks like. You realize that there were MANY computers, right?Imagine thinking they could do it 50 years ago but they "lost" the technology. And they haven't been able to do it in the 50 years since then. All of that with computers that had less computing power than my current fridge.
Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
You've shown that you have the intellectual capacity of a rock, so there's no point. Irrefutable evidence has been posted ITT many times, but you're not looking for anything other than a way to do more mental gymnastics to show everyone how incredibly stupid you are.And waiting.
Even more amazed that more retards are coming out of no where to show their lack of education and science knowledge.
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05-16-2022, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The computers were more powerful than you know and they were specialized for specific tasks and were very robust
Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
The curious part imo is that they 1) lost all of that technology, all of those computers and 2) they haven't been able to recreate it or go back.This is what someone that doesn't understand what specialization looks like. You realize that there were MANY computers, right?
You've shown that you have the intellectual capacity of a rock, so there's no point. Irrefutable evidence has been posted ITT many times, but you're not looking for anything other than a way to do more mental gymnastics to show everyone how incredibly stupid you are.
Even more amazed that more retards are coming out of no where to show their lack of education and science knowledge.
You've shown that you have the intellectual capacity of a rock, so there's no point. Irrefutable evidence has been posted ITT many times, but you're not looking for anything other than a way to do more mental gymnastics to show everyone how incredibly stupid you are.
Even more amazed that more retards are coming out of no where to show their lack of education and science knowledge.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
No one has posted "evidence" that the computers were powerful, because they were not.The curious part imo is that they 1) lost all of that technology, all of those computers and 2) they haven't been able to recreate it or go back.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
There wasn't some secret computer system being used and you are right that NASA said they lost the technology.
As I have said many times, the FBI kept thousand page files on Elvis but they weren't monitoring all of the plans for the NASA moon rocket?
That's absurd.
The FBI would have been all over everyone involved with the moon landing.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Why in the absolute **** would they recreate old, outdated stuff when we can make new, safer things? How has that not crossed your mind?The curious part imo is that they 1) lost all of that technology, all of those computers and 2) they haven't been able to recreate it or go back.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
I agree that space exploration is worth it. We use many things today that were created to help us get to the moon. It would also create tons of new STEM professionals that are fascinated with all of it, which would bring about more technological innovations, snowballing the speed and progress.
Why go back to the moon? To prove to a bunch of idiots that have no understanding of science that we've done it before? We can control machines to do the exploring for us on Mars. While I would LOVE to see us step on Mars, at the moment it's safer to have machines do it.
Then you have the idiot Fraudlerian talking about evidence, when he thinks the entire moon is 400 degrees at all times, talking about what we can and cannot do.
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05-16-2022, 08:04 PM
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I can, but luckily I dont often run into people as dumb as some of the straight up retards that are on the misc irl. Probably because they dont leave the house much. I try to convince myself most are trolling to retain some faith in humanity.I seriously can't believe people can be so retarded.
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
Lost it at the oldcel literally running away from having to face his lies lmao.'We leave you much that isundone'
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Trillions of dollars huh?So nasa steals trillions of tax dollars and invests a percentage of that into lobbyists who push for the ministry of truth so they have never found out?
Not only does it sound possible it sounds likely.
Not only does it sound possible it sounds likely.
Since its inception, the United States has spent nearly US $650 billion (in nominal dollars) on NASA.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No, the idea is that we did lose the technology.They didn't "lose the technology". That entire fallacy is based on a single, out of context remark by someone.
It refers to not having the technology on hand to do it again, and it's not about computers.
There hasn't been a heavy lift vehicle since the Saturn V that would be powerful enough for the task.
In layman's terms - bigger rockets need bigger support infrastructure, and there was no need to have big rockets like that.
It's not about not being able to recreate it. Could a Saturn V be built again? For sure. But to actually use it, it's not only the rocket you have to build. You also have to assemble it somewhere, launch it somewhere, etc. And it would have no purpose other than to prove that it could be done again.
TL;DR : People think they can ride their iPhones to the moon.
It refers to not having the technology on hand to do it again, and it's not about computers.
There hasn't been a heavy lift vehicle since the Saturn V that would be powerful enough for the task.
In layman's terms - bigger rockets need bigger support infrastructure, and there was no need to have big rockets like that.
It's not about not being able to recreate it. Could a Saturn V be built again? For sure. But to actually use it, it's not only the rocket you have to build. You also have to assemble it somewhere, launch it somewhere, etc. And it would have no purpose other than to prove that it could be done again.
TL;DR : People think they can ride their iPhones to the moon.

The explanation is that the rocket was made "special order" by hundreds of contractors and they did not keep organized records of how it was actually constructed.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
For the record, Dunningkrugerian has been sticking to his lies that the plans do not exist for 10 days, 850 posts and counting.No, the idea is that we did lose the technology.
The explanation is that the rocket was made "special order" by hundreds of contractors and they did not keep organized records of how it was actually constructed.
The explanation is that the rocket was made "special order" by hundreds of contractors and they did not keep organized records of how it was actually constructed.
And that's probably his least insane claim.
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
The people involved in the moon landing could easily have been duped by a simulation. It is in fact a job at the CIA to run and invent all kinds of simulations of attacks. They even have plans in case aliens attack. They know that's not going to happen but it's like a thought exercise.
The CIA probably has plans to fight Belgium if they have to.
Anyway, have all the technicians at NASA involved in a simulation would be easy.
I also noted that NASA has NO PLANS for how the rocket was made. I mean where has a government agency not kept files? In addition, it was the most important and attention getting project in US history, so they not having plans is really weird.
As I've said, the FBI had huge files on actors and singers, but they were guarding the f@cking moon rocket plans...come on.
The CIA probably has plans to fight Belgium if they have to.
Anyway, have all the technicians at NASA involved in a simulation would be easy.
I also noted that NASA has NO PLANS for how the rocket was made. I mean where has a government agency not kept files? In addition, it was the most important and attention getting project in US history, so they not having plans is really weird.
As I've said, the FBI had huge files on actors and singers, but they were guarding the f@cking moon rocket plans...come on.
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Believe me when I say this doesn't even crack the top 10 of this thread's pwnageJust LMAO @ this ownage. Inb4 some random made up rebuttal about it actually being aluminum foil and cardboard
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Nah you're just outta chit that ain't already been refutedAnd waiting.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
You are of course the opposite in that you know absolutely nothing.For the record, Dunningkrugerian has been sticking to his lies that the plans do not exist for 10 days, 850 posts and counting.
And that's probably his least insane claim.
And that's probably his least insane claim.
The NASA quote on "losing" or having disorganized plans has already been posted, and not by me.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
No it hasn't, not once, not never.The NASA quote on "losing" or having disorganized plans has already been posted, and not by me.
NASA saying they have the full plans on microfilm and whatnot on the other hand has been posted several times.
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
5 seconds of Googling to debunk your outlandish schizo claim based on nothing whatsoever and supported by "muh gubmint job".
This is) a claim John Lewis made in his 1996 book, Mining the Sky, that he went looking for the Saturn 5 blueprints a few years ago and concluded, incredibly, they had been "lost."
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
"The Federal Archives in East Point, Georgia, also has 2,900 cubic feet of Saturn documents," he said. "Rocketdyne has in its archives dozens of volumes from its Knowledge Retention Program. This effort was initiated in the late '60s to document every facet of F 1 and J 2 engine production to assist in any future restart."
Shawcross cautioned that rebuilding a Saturn 5 would require more than good blueprints.
"The problem in recreating the Saturn 5 is not finding the drawings, it is finding vendors who can supply mid-1960's vintage hardware," he wrote, "and the fact that the launch pads and vehicle assembly buildings have been converted to space shuttle use, so you have no place to launch from.
https://space.stackexchange.com/ques...lans-destroyed
It's 60 year old tech that's wholly irrelevant today. It's like claiming that modern PCs are a hoax because *** lost the plans for manufacturing punch card computers or whatevers.
edit: the fuk, why is the abbreviation for International Business Machines censored?
This is) a claim John Lewis made in his 1996 book, Mining the Sky, that he went looking for the Saturn 5 blueprints a few years ago and concluded, incredibly, they had been "lost."
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
"The Federal Archives in East Point, Georgia, also has 2,900 cubic feet of Saturn documents," he said. "Rocketdyne has in its archives dozens of volumes from its Knowledge Retention Program. This effort was initiated in the late '60s to document every facet of F 1 and J 2 engine production to assist in any future restart."
Shawcross cautioned that rebuilding a Saturn 5 would require more than good blueprints.
"The problem in recreating the Saturn 5 is not finding the drawings, it is finding vendors who can supply mid-1960's vintage hardware," he wrote, "and the fact that the launch pads and vehicle assembly buildings have been converted to space shuttle use, so you have no place to launch from.
https://space.stackexchange.com/ques...lans-destroyed
It's 60 year old tech that's wholly irrelevant today. It's like claiming that modern PCs are a hoax because *** lost the plans for manufacturing punch card computers or whatevers.
edit: the fuk, why is the abbreviation for International Business Machines censored?
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Trying reading what you posted.
It's as if we don't have a copy of the constitution but the hundreds of notes the guys took to put it together.
Again, we have organized 1,000 page documents about Elvis and many others, but don't have organized documents about the MOON ROCKET, you f@cking moron.
Read what you posted.
It's as if we don't have a copy of the constitution but the hundreds of notes the guys took to put it together.
Again, we have organized 1,000 page documents about Elvis and many others, but don't have organized documents about the MOON ROCKET, you f@cking moron.
Read what you posted.
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Nah, you read it. They have the complete blueprints, they're just worthless. But be my guest:
Geoffrey Hughes from the Rotary Rocket Company supported Shawcross's view.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5," he said. "Having a complete set of Saturn 5 blueprints would do us no good whatsoever. True, we would still be able to bend the big pieces of metal fairly easily. But they are not the problem.
"The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of other parts, some as apparently insignificant as a bolt or a washer, that are simply not manufactured any more. Everything would have to be redone. So a simple rebuild would be impossible. The only real answer would be to start from scratch and build anew using modern parts and processes. Yet another immense challenge!"
http://web.archive.org/web/201008181...ve_000313.html
You're a mentally ill schizo in desperate need of professional medical help. Try and get some.
Geoffrey Hughes from the Rotary Rocket Company supported Shawcross's view.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5," he said. "Having a complete set of Saturn 5 blueprints would do us no good whatsoever. True, we would still be able to bend the big pieces of metal fairly easily. But they are not the problem.
"The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of other parts, some as apparently insignificant as a bolt or a washer, that are simply not manufactured any more. Everything would have to be redone. So a simple rebuild would be impossible. The only real answer would be to start from scratch and build anew using modern parts and processes. Yet another immense challenge!"
http://web.archive.org/web/201008181...ve_000313.html
You're a mentally ill schizo in desperate need of professional medical help. Try and get some.
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
You are literally confirming what I've said via your posts to prove I'm wrong, lol.
That's moronic and very weak.
You posted WHAT I SAID thus proving me to be correct.....
That's moronic and very weak.
You posted WHAT I SAID thus proving me to be correct.....
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
I'll just paste it again for the audience so we can laugh at you
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
They exist. Fully. Now. You can stop confabulating.
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
They exist. Fully. Now. You can stop confabulating.

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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
NASA does not say they have the full plans. They have said what I have said because I researched the topic.No it hasn't, not once, not never.
NASA saying they have the full plans on microfilm and whatnot on the other hand has been posted several times.
NASA saying they have the full plans on microfilm and whatnot on the other hand has been posted several times.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
and we are to trust your research?NASA does not say they have the full plans. They have said what I have said because I researched the topic.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Please, you can't even read and exist in a separate bubble farted out by your narcissism.NASA does not say they have the full plans. They have said what I have said because I researched the topic.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
It's ok, we understand, you're struggling to maintain your ego while looking at evidence that proves that - once again - you were completely wrong.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Again, this is you.Please, you can't even read and exist in a separate bubble farted out by your narcissism.
It's ok, we understand, you're struggling to maintain your ego while looking at evidence that proves that - once again - you were completely wrong.
It's ok, we understand, you're struggling to maintain your ego while looking at evidence that proves that - once again - you were completely wrong.
I do not care about this topic that much. If the moon landing was fake or real, I don't actually care, but I think it's interesting.
I do not read your posts extensively but you're clearly an idiot that takes a minute to google something. When I research a topic I do so thoroughly to weigh all the factors.
It is a fact that NASA had "lost the plans" has been in the news. Their explanation is that they aren't lost but rather there are countless plans from different contractors.
That makes no sense given how comprehensive the FBI was with monitoring important people in the 60s.
You are the one who can't accept logic and doesn't do research.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
They have not lost the technology to build those computers.The curious part imo is that they 1) lost all of that technology, all of those computers and 2) they haven't been able to recreate it or go back.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
Now I know the counterargument for the second one is that it's too expensive and space exploration isn't worth it. Personally I think it could be worth it and it's at least very interesting. I haven't looked deep into this moon landing conspiracy so I'm not convinced either way, but I think there's definitely interesting questions like these to ask.
They have lost the machining and launch platforms to build the equipment we used in 1969.
The launch platforms were modified for other vehicles including the space shuttle.
God you people are the stupidest on the planet.
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05-17-2022, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Both of you are a little off. They technically don't have an as built.NASA does not say they have the full plans. They have said what I have said because I researched the topic.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
A number of years ago this was in the news.
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05-17-2022, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Moron, you can use the internet.and we are to trust your research?
If you were interested in the topic you would already know what I'm saying is accurate.
If you want to ask me a question:
Ask: TheAdlerian
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043
Read my science fiction novel:
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05-17-2022, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Yes, they said they don't have an exact set of plans because of countless contractors making individual parts for the overall machine.Both of you are a little off. They technically don't have an as built.
That does not make sense based on what we NOW know about the FBI.
There would have been top security on the moon rocket because of the potential for sabotage.
If you know anything about the FBI, they had all kinds of monitoring, keyhole cameras, illegal wiretapping, and they kept giant records about mundane people like movie stars because they were afraid of them being perverts or communist agents trying to undermine the US.
So, the story that no one has exact records on the moon rocket has to be fake.
It's either fake or they have records they do not want to share for some reason.
If you want to ask me a question:
Ask: TheAdlerian
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043
Read my science fiction novel:
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Well it actually does.Yes, they said they don't have an exact set of plans because of countless contractors making individual parts for the overall machine.
That does not make sense based on what we NOW know about the FBI.
There would have been top security on the moon rocket because of the potential for sabotage.
If you know anything about the FBI, they had all kinds of monitoring, keyhole cameras, illegal wiretapping, and they kept giant records about mundane people like movie stars because they were afraid of them being perverts or communist agents trying to undermine the US.
So, the story that no one has exact records on the moon rocket has to be fake.
It's either fake or they have records they do not want to share for some reason.
That does not make sense based on what we NOW know about the FBI.
There would have been top security on the moon rocket because of the potential for sabotage.
If you know anything about the FBI, they had all kinds of monitoring, keyhole cameras, illegal wiretapping, and they kept giant records about mundane people like movie stars because they were afraid of them being perverts or communist agents trying to undermine the US.
So, the story that no one has exact records on the moon rocket has to be fake.
It's either fake or they have records they do not want to share for some reason.
See certain aspects of the project would change as they went along and so they had to change a few things on the fly as there was an overall deadline (beating the USSR)
That's no different than say you building a house
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Has anyone provided proof we landed on the moon? Other than the official copy and paste documents.
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