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post 1662712463 06-11-2022, 05:25 PM
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I'm surprised Jared Taylor isn't mentioned on here more often. The guy is not only a genius but has more courage than the entire misc.
post 1662712563 06-11-2022, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Dogkrack
I read somewhere that black gun violence in America was on par with what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa and that white gun violence was about the same as Croatia. I wonder if hispanic is similar to the rates in central/south america. It does seem to correlate with race.
It correlates with race, wealth and culture. Many more factors go into it but most people like to hyperfocus on just one aspect to try and win an argument.
post 1662712573 06-11-2022, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
timothy mcveigh killed 168 people....

what was the worst mass shooting, again?
You can’t answer the question. You’ve been defeated.

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post 1662712633 06-11-2022, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By cjr169
You can’t answer the question. You’ve been defeated.

Good day
you can't recognize that inanimate objects have nothing to do with crime.

good day.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
you can't recognize that inanimate objects have nothing to do with crime.
lmao repped
post 1662712843 06-11-2022, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By G1adi4tor88
lmao repped
People are so retarded, that they actually believe guns are the only way to mass-kill people.

lmao.
post 1662712913 06-11-2022, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
you can't recognize that inanimate objects have nothing to do with crime.

good day.
You can’t understand that mass casualty shootings in schools is a uniquely American issue that happens nowhere else in the world.

But it has nothing to do with insane people having easy access to guns, no.
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post 1662712963 06-11-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By cjr169
You can’t understand that mass casualty shootings in schools is a uniquely American issue that happens nowhere else in the world.

But it has nothing to do with insane people having easy access to guns, no.
odd, because murder is already illegal....
post 1662713023 06-11-2022, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
yeah, here's our "gun problem" in the USA

I agree, but do you have any source to this?

I have lived in rural Texas, and there is quite a big of domestic violence/murder there, even among the white population. I would guess that white Americans have higher homicide rates than Western Europe and Japan. It domestic and work/mass shooting related though; unlike blk and hispanic violence which tends to be more gang related.
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post 1662713143 06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
you can't recognize that inanimate objects have nothing to do with crime.

good day.
Of course there's some correlation. A bad mentally unstable person can go to the local store and easily buy a rifle. He kills 20 innocent people. A poverty urban youth can easily get a gun for cheap and try to rob a store. Take away the availability and they might nope out, or try to do a mass killing or robbery with a knife. With which it's harder to get the same amount of casualties. I'm not sure why you wouldn't admit that.

In the end it's whether you want to give up certain rights to lower amount the casualties, or fix the other components (mental health and poverty being two big ones) to achieve the same goal but keep your rights. It sounds stupid to say availability to stronger arms doesn't increase the amount of victims.
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Originally Posted By johnnydeep1
I agree, but do you have any source to this?

I have lived in rural Texas, and there is quite a big of domestic violence/murder there, even among the white population. I would guess that white Americans have higher homicide rates than Western Europe and Japan. It domestic and work/mass shooting related though; unlike blk and hispanic violence which tends to be more gang related.
doesn't matter.

You can drop off a cargo ship of guns in Japan, they won't just start killing each other. fact.
post 1662713343 06-11-2022, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Of course there's some correlation. A bad mentally unstable person can go to the local store and easily buy a rifle. He kills 20 innocent people. A poverty urban youth can easily get a gun for cheap and try to rob a store. Take away the availability and they might nope out, or try to do a mass killing or robbery with a knife. With which it's harder to get the same amount of casualties. I'm not sure why you wouldn't admit that.

In the end it's whether you want to give up certain rights to lower amount the casualties, or fix the other components (mental health and poverty being two big ones) to achieve the same goal but keep your rights. It sounds stupid to say availability to stronger arms doesn't increase the amount of victims.
The white American demographic losing control of it's destiny is directly responsible for the epidemic of mental illness.

I firmly support addressing the mental illness factor, but it has to be attacked at the root.
post 1662713413 06-11-2022, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By G1adi4tor88
The white American demographic losing control of it's destiny is directly responsible for the epidemic of mental illness.

I firmly support addressing the mental illness factor, but it has to be attacked at the root.
This is what I believe as well. With regards to other gun violence I think poverty and culture play a big role in it and you should try to tackle those causes as well. You really need to achieve some kind of big cultural change.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
This is what I believe as well. With regards to other gun violence I think poverty and culture play a big role in it and you should try to tackle those causes as well. You really need to achieve some kind of big cultural change.
don't be ridiculous.... just ban inanimate objects.... problem SOLVED.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
the fact is that bombs are much harder to access/make than guns.
You mean to tell me, that you couldn't make a bomb within 24 hours?

are you retarded?
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Originally Posted By cjr169
Stay focused. I know it’s hard.

Where else in the world do mass casualty shootings happen in schools ?
Gun violence per capita of the U.S.? Considering our population and amount of guns, this is an incredibly safe country.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
You mean to tell me, that you couldn't make a bomb within 24 hours?

are you retarded?
Just pound some kale smoothies

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Originally Posted By G1adi4tor88
The white American demographic losing control of it's destiny is directly responsible for the epidemic of mental illness.

I firmly support addressing the mental illness factor, but it has to be attacked at the root.
doesn't help that a large faction of the country wants to medicate kids and turn them into trannies
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
You mean to tell me, that you couldn't make a bomb within 24 hours?

are you retarded?
lol this, we made pipe bombs for fun in middle school
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
not sure if being sarcastic, but if I wanted to make a bomb, the only place for me to figure out how to make one is the internet, and I wouldn't even want to take the risk of typing that into a search engine from my computer
and you think that would stop someone who has intent to kill?

The anarchist cookbook came out in 1971.....

I remember in highschool someone made a pipe bomb and blew a crater into the pitchers mound at a park near my house.... ^^^EDIT WIZARD
post 1662714333 06-11-2022, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
not sure if being sarcastic, but if I wanted to make a bomb, the only place for me to figure out how to make one is the internet, and I wouldn't even want to take the risk of typing that into a search engine from my computer
The Uvalde pha**** posted his plans online for months and he was just "on their radar"
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
don't be ridiculous.... just ban inanimate objects.... problem SOLVED.
I don't think banning inanimate objects is the right solution but pretending easier access to more powerful objects doesn't increase casualties and maybe even the rate of occurance is also not a winning argument. Maybe you're used to take a hard stance on it because of political motives but it seems like a pretty easy logical conclusion.

If a shooter can't legally buy a rifle he either has to resort to illegally buying one, or buying a less powerful gun. Thus, the chances decrease. Admitting that simple fact doesn't mean you need to support any kind of gun control.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
If a shooter can't legally buy a rifle he either has to resort to illegally buying one, or buying a less powerful gun. Thus, the chances decrease. Admitting that simple fact doesn't mean you need to support any kind of gun control.
Or doing something worse like the guy did in France with just a truck. You don't need a background check to rent a truck
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Originally Posted By Antoine99
Or doing something worse like the guy did in France with just a truck. You don't need a background check to rent a truck
don't be ridiculous... no one would use a truck like that.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
don't be ridiculous... no one would use a truck like that.
Sorry forget that was illegal
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You can tell a lot of smooth brain theorists theorists know nothing about buying a gun and have probably never bought a gun. Nics background check look it up that's N ICS
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
really nothing society can do to prevent bombs from going off aside from lowering mental illness in the general population.
ding ding ding ding ding ^^^

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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
let's phrase it into your argument and see if it holds:



hmm.

raising the legal age for obtaining guns won't deter any criminals.

doing more extensive background checks for people who buy guns won't deter any criminals.

are those two things facts?
well I can start listing examples of mass shootings where none of these laws would have worked, or link you to infants who got a hold of their parents firearms and caused death.... But we'll be here all day.

America has a societal issue.... Its funny because Americans can recognize the societal issue in the middle east with suicide bombers, but regarding guns in america, they can't.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I cant claim whether we recognize as a whole that we have a societal issue, but I can certainly see the appeal in tighter regulations simply because it's a much easier/practical method of taking action rather than addressing mental illness on a large societal scale
I keep referencing our obesity rate... it has SKYROCKETED since 1990... If you could measure mental health as easily, you would see a similar trajectory IMO.
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