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post 1663231453 06-21-2022, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Dude, I have TWO grad degrees in psychology and spent ten years working for the prison system. I am an expert in stuff related to criminals and know what I'm talking about.

You do not know anything about the topic and yet you are so sure of yourself.
did your grad schools teach you to analyze criminal behavior from fictional tv shows with people having super powers?
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Originally Posted By Lastro
how could you have so much "expertise" in this field yet not know that psychopaths are capable of experiencing emotions and do not use stimulation as their only motive for doing bad things?
Because that is not the theory associated with psychopaths, and no on knows if they exist, and that term isn't used in psychology. It is used in some kinds of FBI type profiling though.

In the TV show, there are no people who are psychopaths as everyone is operating on emotion all of the time. They are either emotional wrecks or idiots like The Deep.

On second thought the black guy who is the CEO is portrayed as a possible pscyhopath. There was also a scientist responsible for training Homelander and he had the same dead quality. What interests a psychopath is doing anything that creates a big reaction in others.

So, torturing kids and turning them into freaks to see what happens would be something a psychopath would enjoy.
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles
did your grad schools teach you to analyze criminal behavior from fictional tv shows with people having super powers?
Sure.

We aren't watching abstract images on the screen are we, retard?

If you watch Star Wars does it seem like it's in French to you?

Do you have autism?
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Hate to be the, "but in the comics" guy, but in the comics, he's not the main bad guy.

>>Spoiler!
Butcher is the ultimate villain
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It's also often implied Homelander almost could have been a good guy if things had been different, he's clearly a psychopath and control freak. I'm not even talking him ripping apart Supersonic, that guy was plotting against him, but just so many things he does is unnecessarily nasty or evil.
Holy f@ck!!

That's amazing!

I thought Butcher and the other guys were actually the evil ones and Homelander a better person even though he is wrong much of the time.

That's amazing news.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Hate to be the, "but in the comics" guy, but in the comics, he's not the main bad guy.

>>Spoiler!
Butcher is the ultimate villain
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It's also often implied Homelander almost could have been a good guy if things had been different, he's clearly a psychopath and control freak. I'm not even talking him ripping apart Supersonic, that guy was plotting against him, but just so many things he does is unnecessarily nasty or evil.
Regardless who cares if he's the "bad guy"? He's just a dude doing the things that he wants to do. Some of the things are him being a dick. Bad and good is overrated. There's really no such thing in life. Bad to someone is good to someone else. Even Hitler, some viewed his ambitions as good so bad and good is all opinion, not fact... sorry to burst everyone's bubble here.

Homelander is just a guy doing his thing. If you dislike what he does go ahead and call him bad but that's limited to your perspective. I dislike what Starlight does and think she's an entitled bitch so can just as easily argue her as bad based on my opinion of her.

At the end of the day Homelander is better than everyone else though. That's harder to dispute than whether he's bad or good. Rules shouldn't apply to him the same way. He's literally above them with what he's capable of. Hard fact for the normies and losers to hear but everyone isn't equal in this world.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Sure.

We aren't watching abstract images on the screen are we, retard?

If you watch Star Wars does it seem like it's in French to you?

Do you have autism?
lol this guy
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Hate to be the, "but in the comics" guy, but in the comics, he's not the main bad guy.

>>Spoiler!
Butcher is the ultimate villain
<<

It's also often implied Homelander almost could have been a good guy if things had been different, he's clearly a psychopath and control freak. I'm not even talking him ripping apart Supersonic, that guy was plotting against him, but just so many things he does is unnecessarily nasty or evil.
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fuaaark who let all the pseudointellectuals out?
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Originally Posted By TokenV
fuaaark who let all the pseudointellectuals out?
Let's just have one word discussions from now on.

Why don't you go and start your own forum where we can do that?
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Let's just have one word discussions from now on.

Why don't you go and start your own forum where we can do that?
Homelander did nothing wrong
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Originally Posted By TokenV
Homelander did nothing wrong
Cool.
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Originally Posted By TokenV
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Because that is not the theory associated with psychopaths, and no on knows if they exist, and that term isn't used in psychology. It is used in some kinds of FBI type profiling though.
that is simply not true. see forensic psych, personality psych, abnormal psych. took a course in each during undergrad and we learned about psychopaths in each one. you're talking about one practical application.
Originally Posted By you
In the TV show, there are no people who are psychopaths as everyone is operating on emotion all of the time. They are either emotional wrecks or idiots like The Deep.
not true. there is much more nuance than that
Originally Posted By you
On second thought the black guy who is the CEO is portrayed as a possible pscyhopath. There was also a scientist responsible for training Homelander and he had the same dead quality.
agreed
Originally Posted By you
What interests a psychopath is doing anything that creates a big reaction in others.

So, torturing kids and turning them into freaks to see what happens would be something a psychopath would enjoy.
as i said before, this is not their only motivation and they are also capable of attaining goals via morally reprehensible methods that a typical person wouldn't be capable of because of their conscience.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Sure.

We aren't watching abstract images on the screen are we, retard?

If you watch Star Wars does it seem like it's in French to you?

Do you have autism?
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this show had a hamster and a timothy and white claws
It is the current year.
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> Everyone keeps plotting against
> Homelander defends himself
> He is the bad guy

???
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fukkin lol at blue hawk "all lives matter" and then the news spinning it to him beating the chit outta some antifa phags. Show is getting more and more meta. Not taking the conservative bashing too srsly cuz they also make fun of BLM BLTs lmao
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Originally Posted By RogerDuck
> Everyone keeps plotting against
> Homelander defends himself
> He is the bad guy

???
You cant be that stupid. Why do you think people are plotting against homelander?
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Originally Posted By RogerDuck
> Everyone keeps plotting against
> Homelander defends himself
> He is the bad guy

???
I see this in schools with kids.

The kid that needs "psychotherapy" is frequently the one being bullied who decides to fight back.

The kid lashed out and beat people up, because he's trying to defend himself.

That is not a bad guy.

Homelander needs to kill like 90% of people on the show and start his own thing.

Really though, the show is poorly written.
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay
You cant be that stupid. Why do you think people are plotting against homelander?
It's literally Homelander's story.

He was raised in a laboratory by psychopaths who tortured him into being their slave.

I did not think it would be so mentally challenging for some people.
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Originally Posted By TheThunder
fukkin lol at blue hawk "all lives matter" and then the news spinning it to him beating the chit outta some antifa phags. Show is getting more and more meta. Not taking the conservative bashing too srsly cuz they also make fun of BLM BLTs lmao
The show is "fun" because it's funny sometimes but the writing is EXTREMELY bad.

The A Train guy vaporizes one of the characters' girlfriends in the beginning then A train MURDERS his own girlfriend, and now suddenly he's offended by Blue Hawk?

I mean come on!!

Blue Hawk is doing the right thing and needs to beat A Train to death while he's at it.

However, the idiotic writers of the show "forgot" who the A train character is and now he's supposed to be a sign of hurt black people.

It's moronic.
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay
You cant be that stupid. Why do you think people are plotting against homelander?
You have to ask, assuming their world is more or less like ours -- would Homelander's reign be any worse than what we got now? Everyone crying over him killing a handful of people or not being able to keep a plane from crashing -- yeah that sucks. Oh hey, how about 1,000,000 dead in Iraq? Yemen? Somolia? Syria?

That's just our foreign policy alone. It's like all these people up in arms about Putin (who is evil and who does suck) but now all of sudden some are so brainwashed they're willing to fly to Ukraine to fight. Okay, tell me what Putin is doing that is somehow any worse than Libya when Hillary/Obama turned it into a literal hell on Earth, slavery back on the menu, children being burnt alive in cages, etc...

Anyway, back on track here - would Homelander ruling the world be any worse than this? I imagine if people just shut up, did as he asked, showed him respect like he was a King -- at the end of the day, people would be happier, there would not be random wars making the MIC rich and killing millions+ and the only people being targeted would be resistance types who didn't fall into line (and probably those adjacent to them or those unlucky to be thought to be them or adjacent).
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However, the idiotic writers of the show "forgot" who the A train character is and now he's supposed to be a sign of hurt black people.

It's moronic.
Did they? I don't think they did -- they went out of their way to remind us what a sack of chit he is, when he betrayed Supersonic. I see him as a gigantic hypocrite and someone using black issues to make himself look better and more marketable now that he's a gimp and the show doesn't really even try to hide it.

He's butthurt that Blue Hawk lays it in a little thick but it's not like he's a good person or really even cares at the end of the day.
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Great, the autismo trolls are in full force.
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Great, the autismo trolls are in full force.
Ohnopeoplearetalkingabouta****ingshow, I am so sorry for you. I can feel your triggering, you probably will need to up your visits to your therapist now. Will you ever recover from this? The trauma of going online and having people talk about a fake show about super heroes... that must be enough to break even the hardiest of souls. I fear you now have permanent PTSD, please get on disability immediately, rest and do what you can to try and recover. You may be bedridden for years after this. Poor poor Braney, he might just be broken now.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
The show is "fun" because it's funny sometimes but the writing is EXTREMELY bad.

The A Train guy vaporizes one of the characters' girlfriends in the beginning then A train MURDERS his own girlfriend, and now suddenly he's offended by Blue Hawk?

I mean come on!!

Blue Hawk is doing the right thing and needs to beat A Train to death while he's at it.

However, the idiotic writers of the show "forgot" who the A train character is and now he's supposed to be a sign of hurt black people.

It's moronic.
So the writing is bad because A Train acts like the hypocritical assh0le he always has been?


The whole Bluehawk apology scene is mirroring what happened to Hughie in the first season, where a supe (A-Train) did a dishonest apology speech while Hughie was completely powerless and could do nothing against Vought. A-Train is now in that very same situation, where a supe fuked up someone close to him while he's almost completely powerless and can do nothing against Vought. Whole point is to showcase his hypocrisy and how his lack of foresight caused yet another fukup for him.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Ohnopeoplearetalkingabouta****ingshow, I am so sorry for you. I can feel your triggering, you probably will need to up your visits to your therapist now. Will you ever recover from this? The trauma of going online and having people talk about a fake show about super heroes... that must be enough to break even the hardiest of souls. I fear you now have permanent PTSD, please get on disability immediately, rest and do what you can to try and recover. You may be bedridden for years after this. Poor poor Braney, he might just be broken now.
Oh, are you having another meltdown? Are you going to make up crap again?

Sorry I don't really know how to address extremely hot takes like "bro, surely life under totalitarian rule, especially one led by a sociopathic retard like Homelander would be preferable to what we have now".
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Did they? I don't think they did -- they went out of their way to remind us what a sack of chit he is, when he betrayed Supersonic. I see him as a gigantic hypocrite and someone using black issues to make himself look better and more marketable now that he's a gimp and the show doesn't really even try to hide it.

He's butthurt that Blue Hawk lays it in a little thick but it's not like he's a good person or really even cares at the end of the day.
I just meant for that one episode with Blue Hawk and the town meeting.

A Train is not the character to have to send any kind of message. Like I said, if Blue Hawk killed him for fun that would be a good thing.

They didn't do anything to indicate that Blue Hawk was beating up black people who weren't criminals. So, they would have needed a scene to establish that he's not doing anything abnormal compared to the rest of them.

The scene just existed to make white people who point out the crime rate of blacks look stupid.

Meanwhile, the show is written by rich jews on weed.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
So the writing is bad because A Train acts like the hypocritical assh0le he always has been?


The whole Bluehawk apology scene is mirroring what happened to Hughie in the first season, where a supe (A-Train) did a dishonest apology speech while Hughie was completely powerless and could do nothing against Vought. A-Train is now in that very same situation, where a supe fuked up someone close to him while he's almost completely powerless and can do nothing against Vought. Whole point is to showcase his hypocrisy and how his lack of foresight caused yet another fukup for him.
That's a good point.

However, Blue Hawk's comments were exact duplicates of what "conservatives" said about police and black crime during the Floyd riots. They said that blacks commit most violent crimes, yet they are a minority, which is true.

So, the show is trying to make facts sound stupid, which is a form of propaganda.

The show did nothing to show the Blue Hawk character as being racist. He literally said that he's fighting criminals who happen to be black because blacks in that area commit a lot of crimes.

I think he's in Trenton, which is an all black town.

So, Black Hawk would be right unless they showed us that he's a sinister person.

It's dumb.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
I just meant for that one episode with Blue Hawk and the town meeting.

A Train is not the character to have to send any kind of message. Like I said, if Blue Hawk killed him for fun that would be a good thing.

They didn't do anything to indicate that Blue Hawk was beating up black people who weren't criminals. So, they would have needed a scene to establish that he's not doing anything abnormal compared to the rest of them.

The scene just existed to make white people who point out the crime rate of blacks look stupid.

Meanwhile, the show is written by rich jews on weed.
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
That's a good point.

However, Blue Hawk's comments were exact duplicates of what "conservatives" said about police and black crime during the Floyd riots. They said that blacks commit most violent crimes, yet they are a minority, which is true.

So, the show is trying to make facts sound stupid, which is a form of propaganda.

The show did nothing to show the Blue Hawk character as being racist. He literally said that he's fighting criminals who happen to be black because blacks in that area commit a lot of crimes.

I think he's in Trenton, which is an all black town.

So, Black Hawk would be right unless they showed us that he's a sinister person.

It's dumb.
they left it ambiguous on purpose

coming from the guy calling other Miscer to dumb to understand the show

amazing
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post 1663317543 06-23-2022, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
That's a good point.

However, Blue Hawk's comments were exact duplicates of what "conservatives" said about police and black crime during the Floyd riots. They said that blacks commit most violent crimes, yet they are a minority, which is true.

So, the show is trying to make facts sound stupid, which is a form of propaganda.

The show did nothing to show the Blue Hawk character as being racist. He literally said that he's fighting criminals who happen to be black because blacks in that area commit a lot of crimes.

I think he's in Trenton, which is an all black town.

So, Black Hawk would be right unless they showed us that he's a sinister person.

It's dumb.
It was his decision to patrol in Trenton, he wasn't assigned there.
So, Black Hawk would be right unless they showed us that he's a sinister person.
He murdered an unarmed guy who couldn't possibly harm him even if he intended. Or was armed. He also sperged out and started punching and throwing unarmed people around who did nothing but call him out for his bs. He just used the "black people commit more crimes" thing as justification for being an unhinged piece of chit and then went off the rails and started committing crimes.

If he actually cared about stopping crime he would catch the criminals and turn them in and not just walk around as a homicidal vigilante who isn't even law enforcement.
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