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what a waste of a season. no impact whatsoever at the end. maeve should have been killed off. amd we all know butcher is going to take compound V and be healed
was homelander lasering that guy at the end a reference to trump saying he could shoot someone on 5th ave and people would still love him? pretty sure it was
soldier boy was the only good character after they turned homelander into a whimpering pussy
his power makes no sense though. If his beam doesnt kill, why did butcher stop him from using it? also, why does it take 7 hours for it to charge up, when he shot kimiko a few episodes back with little charge time?
was homelander lasering that guy at the end a reference to trump saying he could shoot someone on 5th ave and people would still love him? pretty sure it was
soldier boy was the only good character after they turned homelander into a whimpering pussy
his power makes no sense though. If his beam doesnt kill, why did butcher stop him from using it? also, why does it take 7 hours for it to charge up, when he shot kimiko a few episodes back with little charge time?
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
I have read about the Invincible comic and it sound much the same.Let's not recap what you've said.
It makes sense, they just can't exactly cram in the whole comic into a single season.
It makes sense, they just can't exactly cram in the whole comic into a single season.
I know The Boys is much different now but the show really sucks.
It sucks because it's a comedy skit show and not a story like it could be. Most of the episodes are like Saturday Night Live skits strung together with some scenes having to do with a plot.
It could be a great show but it just has the wrong people making it.
I loved the wit in Supernatural and thought it would be more like that.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
The show should have killed off A-Train and maeveNo but seriously this needs to be discussed. If SB blew up in the air Maeve would have lost her powers, like, 50 stories up and fell to the ground as a normal human, and no, falling onto bags of garbage in an alleyway is not enough to break a fall.
Its starting to pull back and giving thier characters plot armour
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro⏩
Can’t kill the token lesbo and african broThe show should have killed off A-Train and maeve
Its starting to pull back and giving thier characters plot armour
Its starting to pull back and giving thier characters plot armour
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro⏩
Ya, but they have to redeem A-Train first! Can't have a full-villain POC!The show should have killed off A-Train and maeve
Its starting to pull back and giving thier characters plot armour
Its starting to pull back and giving thier characters plot armour
And can't possibly kill Maeve, she's bisexual!
I suggest everyone go reads the comics, they're just far superior at this point.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
- One of the worst things about Hughie's regression is that whether we like it or not, he's the closest thing the show treats as an audience surrogate. In a way this made the first season a bit bumpy when it focused on him, but finally seeing him take up an actual role for a change was refreshing.There's quite literally nothing they can do with any of the characters:
- After 2 seasons of trying to be the good dude, Hughie went skawched erf Butcher-style at the beginning, but now he's back to his old self. What's next?
- Honestly tired of Butcher at this point, especially his stupid "swagger from left to right and twist his head before dropping a one liner about oi or ****, look at me, I'm acting" shtick. He went full in, then backtracked. Can't wait to see that once again. Probably will have one of those special brain tumors that don't debilitate the person at all while also killing them in a year tops.
- Kimiko came to terms over her powers and being a psycho, Monkerr took an arbitrary time in his life to finally stand up for himself (again) and demand dental plans and a pension, stay tuned for more surprise Nina in the future.
- MM is pretty much done, but maybe he'll punch Todd again.
- Annie is apparently out of Vought, but not really since she still has a massive following so she can just pop back in. Maybe we'll get some interesting relationship drama with Hughie.
- After 2 seasons of trying to be the good dude, Hughie went skawched erf Butcher-style at the beginning, but now he's back to his old self. What's next?
- Honestly tired of Butcher at this point, especially his stupid "swagger from left to right and twist his head before dropping a one liner about oi or ****, look at me, I'm acting" shtick. He went full in, then backtracked. Can't wait to see that once again. Probably will have one of those special brain tumors that don't debilitate the person at all while also killing them in a year tops.
- Kimiko came to terms over her powers and being a psycho, Monkerr took an arbitrary time in his life to finally stand up for himself (again) and demand dental plans and a pension, stay tuned for more surprise Nina in the future.
- MM is pretty much done, but maybe he'll punch Todd again.
- Annie is apparently out of Vought, but not really since she still has a massive following so she can just pop back in. Maybe we'll get some interesting relationship drama with Hughie.
- I share the same sentiments with Butcher. It was cheeky fun for the first season and a half, but he's been spinning his wheels for a while now doing nothing but the same tired beats and motivations. His life being on the clock doesn't really change much other than making him suddenly wanting to targetNeumanover invest his remaining time on taking out Homelander all the more confusing.
- Kimikio and Frenchie really do feel like they've reached the peak of any real development. Their relationship always struck me as platonic anyway, so the stint in the hospital felt extra forced and almost redundant given how they've treated them on screen for the rest of the show, and the biggest "reveal" I've heard would be that Frenchie isn't really French. Except the moment when him being a fake baguette passed when Nina had a collar on him, so it's very well possible that they'll drag her up again just to shove in an extra non-plot.
- MM and his motivations specifically were not something I thought much about, but you're right. He's basically just tagging along now until they inevitably have his ex wife breakup with Todd for being a Homer and go back to MM. That at least makes sense, although they should have picked a stepfather that fit the role instead of a contender for "most punchable face."
- Annie officially joining The Boys kind of caught me off guard because I pretty much assumed she was for all intents and purposes in while also serving as their in to Vought. I mean, she stole Temp V for them already, so it seemed more like an excuse to just bring up voting so Frenchie could bitch at Butcher some more.
I just don't want to hear Starlight complain about what Homelander's up to when she was the one who decided to lead the anti-Soldier Boy gatecrash that ruined the closest chance of removing Homelander's powers. Hell, if Ryan got caught in the blast then he might have his powers removed as well, so Butcher would have had everything he wanted in one swing. Back to Annie/SL, though, the most she has is the blackmail against Homelander, but even that seems like it won't be a big deal after how they went full retard in the finale.
The only other thing regarding Annie that comes to mind is how they completely dropped the extremely short hostage-style relationship Homelander forced her to have onscreen, which was one of the leads that showed some interesting potential.
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I had to break this up because BB.com was being a twat giving me an Access Denied:
Really though, it's practically insane to try and write anything around something as deeply autistic as TVTropes, especially when it's something as inane as, "you can't kill off a character because X." Well, terrific: I guess we can't kill off gay characters, but gay people are supposed to be like everyone else, so now I guess we just created a trope where gay peoplecan'tbe killed, and we're back to it being one big trope again.
That said, I actually liked Maeve in the show, and that would have been such a stupid way for them to kill her off, sacrificing herself for a bunch of morons who all caught the idiot ball.
There also isn't a single core point of the show that was based on our reality/current events that benefits the show, and all it does for me at least is date it to whichever yearpriorto when the season is released (since it takes time to write, film, and edit before release). Like, are they planning supe abortion for the next season? They already have a solid foundation for a world with corporate and militarized supes that offers infinite possible directions to go in, but they're too busy trying to force a point in that grinds said world to a halt while it's practically reaching through the fourth wall.
As bad as Game of Thrones sh*t the bed at the end, imagine just how much worse it would have been had it been released a couple years later and they decided to suddenly turn Cersei into a Trump pastiche? Not only does it come across as abitunhinged on their part, like have a little restraint and leave your Twitter wanks to your private time, but it twists an extant character into some new thing that now feels like a forced reaction to events completely outside of the fiction.
And strong agree on sticking to the source material. A common problem that seems to always crop up the more they change any kind of source material is that they keep spiraling down a rabbit hole they created that has to diverge even further the more it goes on. Then if they decided to bring things back home again, they're left with trying to wrangle whatever tangent of their own making and spin it back into making sense with the original story. I know next to nothing about The Boys comic storyline, but I get the feeling that the people behind the show have not planned enough in advance to ensure they aren't just creating their own thing that gets lost down the road, especially if there is a remote possibility that they get an extension past 5 seasons.
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
I never heard of such a thing either, and it's seems like such an obscure "trope" to worry about amongst all theothertropesthat make up the rest of the show.Kripke literally said that she survived because they wanted to give her a happy ending and they didn't want to go with the "bi/gay character gets killed off" trope. Personally I was unaware there was a trope like that. Well besides killing off the gay dude in the first ep.
Wish I was making that up
"At no point did I ever consider killing Maeve, from the very, very beginning [of the series]. We were intentionally building to a happy ending for her, always, for a lot of reasons. One, she deserved it. Believe it or not, The Boys is a moral universe, and when you make the right choices, you get rewarded, and she deserved a happy ending with Elena.
I am not going to fall into the trope of killing off gay characters. I’m aware of it, [and] I agree with the criticism of it. I’m not going to do that as well. And I’ll admit that I think we’re playing around a little with that trope by letting people think she’s dead, and they’re going to shout at their TV and be really upset by it, but then [we] reveal she’s actually going to go have a nice, power-free life with her girlfriend. So hopefully that will take the sting off it.”
https://screenrant.com/the-boys-maev...k-differences/
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"At no point did I ever consider killing Maeve, from the very, very beginning [of the series]. We were intentionally building to a happy ending for her, always, for a lot of reasons. One, she deserved it. Believe it or not, The Boys is a moral universe, and when you make the right choices, you get rewarded, and she deserved a happy ending with Elena.
I am not going to fall into the trope of killing off gay characters. I’m aware of it, [and] I agree with the criticism of it. I’m not going to do that as well. And I’ll admit that I think we’re playing around a little with that trope by letting people think she’s dead, and they’re going to shout at their TV and be really upset by it, but then [we] reveal she’s actually going to go have a nice, power-free life with her girlfriend. So hopefully that will take the sting off it.”
https://screenrant.com/the-boys-maev...k-differences/
Really though, it's practically insane to try and write anything around something as deeply autistic as TVTropes, especially when it's something as inane as, "you can't kill off a character because X." Well, terrific: I guess we can't kill off gay characters, but gay people are supposed to be like everyone else, so now I guess we just created a trope where gay peoplecan'tbe killed, and we're back to it being one big trope again.
That said, I actually liked Maeve in the show, and that would have been such a stupid way for them to kill her off, sacrificing herself for a bunch of morons who all caught the idiot ball.
Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
It doesn't help that their own ideas of morals are pretty sh*t if you look at the show they've made in hindsight.Everything I've read from this guy's mouth is so lame. Guy is a massive ****git. No wonder the show is lagging more and more behind the comic every season.
"Believe it or not, The Boys is a moral universe"
Ya, maybe your watered-down version that's more concerned about taking jabs at Trump than effectively building plot.
The only big twist in the finale was Noir, and they've already confirmed thesame actorwill be playing a "Noir 2.0" in Season 4. They didn't kill him, they just retconned him. What a joke.
"Believe it or not, The Boys is a moral universe"
Ya, maybe your watered-down version that's more concerned about taking jabs at Trump than effectively building plot.
The only big twist in the finale was Noir, and they've already confirmed thesame actorwill be playing a "Noir 2.0" in Season 4. They didn't kill him, they just retconned him. What a joke.
There also isn't a single core point of the show that was based on our reality/current events that benefits the show, and all it does for me at least is date it to whichever yearpriorto when the season is released (since it takes time to write, film, and edit before release). Like, are they planning supe abortion for the next season? They already have a solid foundation for a world with corporate and militarized supes that offers infinite possible directions to go in, but they're too busy trying to force a point in that grinds said world to a halt while it's practically reaching through the fourth wall.
As bad as Game of Thrones sh*t the bed at the end, imagine just how much worse it would have been had it been released a couple years later and they decided to suddenly turn Cersei into a Trump pastiche? Not only does it come across as abitunhinged on their part, like have a little restraint and leave your Twitter wanks to your private time, but it twists an extant character into some new thing that now feels like a forced reaction to events completely outside of the fiction.
Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
How close is the show to the comics in terms of season 1 to volume 1, season 2 to volume 2, ect.? I was thrown off a bit looking online whereVolume 5 of 6 was Herogasm, so I'm assuming the show is out of order, but I can't find anything about the other volumes past 2.this
fukking homos should've just kept to the comic storylines
fukking homos should've just kept to the comic storylines
And strong agree on sticking to the source material. A common problem that seems to always crop up the more they change any kind of source material is that they keep spiraling down a rabbit hole they created that has to diverge even further the more it goes on. Then if they decided to bring things back home again, they're left with trying to wrangle whatever tangent of their own making and spin it back into making sense with the original story. I know next to nothing about The Boys comic storyline, but I get the feeling that the people behind the show have not planned enough in advance to ensure they aren't just creating their own thing that gets lost down the road, especially if there is a remote possibility that they get an extension past 5 seasons.
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07-10-2022, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
Yeah, trying to pretend that it was a "yay, finally" moment with Annie joining the crew was pretty stupid. But anyway, they have the full records and footage of Vickie being the headpopper who was adopted by fuking Edgar, why are we supposed to pretend that it's a source for conflict? Annie can just release all of that and call it a day. And she already leaked Compound V and all that crap about Herogasm, Homelander and Maeve.- One of the worst things about Hughie's regression is that whether we like it or not, he's the closest thing the show treats as an audience surrogate. In a way this made the first season a bit bumpy when it focused on him, but finally seeing him take up an actual role for a change was refreshing.
Annie officially joining The Boys kind of caught me off guard because I pretty much assumed she was for all intents and purposes in while also serving as their in to Vought. I mean, she stole Temp V for them already, so it seemed more like an excuse to just bring up voting so Frenchie could bitch at Butcher some more.
Annie officially joining The Boys kind of caught me off guard because I pretty much assumed she was for all intents and purposes in while also serving as their in to Vought. I mean, she stole Temp V for them already, so it seemed more like an excuse to just bring up voting so Frenchie could bitch at Butcher some more.
Although it's interesting (stupid) how apparently nobody cared about HL admitting that he killed Supersonic and the protests were only about Maeve.
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Completely off, the comics are an inspiration at best. Dakota Bob (completely different character) was sitting POTUS with Vic Neuman (completely different character) being VP at the very beginning of the comics.How close is the show to the comics in terms of season 1 to volume 1, season 2 to volume 2, ect.? I was thrown off a bit looking online whereVolume 5 of 6 was Herogasm, so I'm assuming the show is out of order, but I can't find anything about the other volumes past 2.
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
can't really match seasons and volumes 1:1, but in the first season a lot of the comic source material returned, in the second it got less and less (f.e. the entire St0rmfront storyline never happens in the comics, Becky/Becca dies during giving birth and Butcher kills the baby (so no Ryan)) and now with the third season almost nothing resembles the comics anymore (the "biggest" comic plot was also thrown out with killing Noir)How close is the show to the comics in terms of season 1 to volume 1, season 2 to volume 2, ect.? I was thrown off a bit looking online whereVolume 5 of 6 was Herogasm, so I'm assuming the show is out of order, but I can't find anything about the other volumes past 2.
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Yeah, Maeve surviving jumped the shark a LOT and just didn't make any sense. Especially her powers suddenly disappearing because of what, the radiation?
Don't know where they are going with the political angle, and it really feels like a silly tacked on bit. Would make almost more sense for the head popper to become a high up at Vought instead. Agree that Frenchy and Kimiko is done and needs to just walk off into the sunset.
Only entertaining bit was Deep as usual, the bit with the octopus threesome was hilarious.
Don't know where they are going with the political angle, and it really feels like a silly tacked on bit. Would make almost more sense for the head popper to become a high up at Vought instead. Agree that Frenchy and Kimiko is done and needs to just walk off into the sunset.
Only entertaining bit was Deep as usual, the bit with the octopus threesome was hilarious.
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So they didn't resolve the story arc of Jamie the Supe Hamster? He caused havoc after being released from his Russian cage and was never captured. Hopefully Jamie is a big part of season 4.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Soldier Boys beam zaps the supes powers. That’s why Kimiko lost her powers.Yeah, Maeve surviving jumped the shark a LOT and just didn't make any sense. Especially her powers suddenly disappearing because of what, the radiation?
Don't know where they are going with the political angle, and it really feels like a silly tacked on bit. Would make almost more sense for the head popper to become a high up at Vought instead. Agree that Frenchy and Kimiko is done and needs to just walk off into the sunset.
Only entertaining bit was Deep as usual, the bit with the octopus threesome was hilarious.
Don't know where they are going with the political angle, and it really feels like a silly tacked on bit. Would make almost more sense for the head popper to become a high up at Vought instead. Agree that Frenchy and Kimiko is done and needs to just walk off into the sunset.
Only entertaining bit was Deep as usual, the bit with the octopus threesome was hilarious.
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Originally Posted By XiangYu⏩
why does it even matter if solider boy takes powers? they can just take V again lolif season 3 never happened would there be any significant thing missing?? only that maeve lost her powers??
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Originally Posted By beegeener⏩
And why didn't they just shove a stick of dynamite up Homelanders ass like they did translucent? They had him pinned down. Why some elaborate scheme when they already figured out you can blow up invulnerable supes from the inside out?why does it even matter if solider boy takes powers? they can just take V again lol
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
They had a scene where they were firing a machine gun in Soldier Boy's mouth and it didn't bother him, so that might not count for everyone.And why didn't they just shove a stick of dynamite up Homelanders ass like they did translucent? They had him pinned down. Why some elaborate scheme when they already figured out you can blow up invulnerable supes from the inside out?
Anyway, the show is a comedy and not a real story. So, the "shove it up his ass" thing was a gory comedy scene and not really part of any story.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
We never really established how invulnerable Transclucent was, anyway. He was a new character and not really a rip on any obvious comic book counterpart, as if it would matter that much.They had a scene where they were firing a machine gun in Soldier Boy's mouth and it didn't bother him, so that might not count for everyone.
Anyway, the show is a comedy and not a real story. So, the "shove it up his ass" thing was a gory comedy scene and not really part of any story.
Anyway, the show is a comedy and not a real story. So, the "shove it up his ass" thing was a gory comedy scene and not really part of any story.
Have we pretty much established s3 was a let-down, yet? Sad, every episode up to the finale left me wanting for more. Now? I'm good. I can take it or leave it and I'm concerned the show will go down a dark woke path based on how things ended and certain insane quotes from the showrunners.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
The Boys is dead my friend.We never really established how invulnerable Transclucent was, anyway. He was a new character and not really a rip on any obvious comic book counterpart, as if it would matter that much.
Have we pretty much established s3 was a let-down, yet? Sad, every episode up to the finale left me wanting for more. Now? I'm good.I can take it or leave it and I'm concerned the show will go down a dark woke path based on how things ended and certain insane quotes from the showrunners.
Have we pretty much established s3 was a let-down, yet? Sad, every episode up to the finale left me wanting for more. Now? I'm good.I can take it or leave it and I'm concerned the show will go down a dark woke path based on how things ended and certain insane quotes from the showrunners.
I’d expect next season to be more of the same just amplified.
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Originally Posted By Krackerjacked⏩
Unless they get new writers or get serious, the show is doomed and is just going to be stupid then get canceled.The Boys is dead my friend.
I’d expect next season to be more of the same just amplified.
I’d expect next season to be more of the same just amplified.
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07-11-2022, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Victim of it's own success, IMO. People enjoyed, entirely for what it was, writers get cocky -- now they don't have to dance around topics like they used too, we're going to see more and more of their true colors.Unless they get new writers or get serious, the show is doomed and is just going to be stupid then get canceled.
They're tired of trying to placate conservatives, they loathe them and look down on them and they certainly do not fear them. With the hard left, they lean towards them already so they're sympathetic and at the end of the day they live in fear of upsetting them and/or getting cancelled.
So, get ready for a lot more post-season interviews with the writers talking about imaginary tropes about minorities/gays they have to write around to explain why women, gays, blacks and whoever else are Better than others and can't be put in unpleasant positions. Plus, forget any debate about the show being even or skewering the right and left, that's going away and Season Four will be a full-on Assault on Trump, conservatives being dopes, Abortion Rights and how we must have gun control.
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07-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
with how season 3 went, i won't be looking out for season 4 and will just watch it as and whenUnless they get new writers or get serious, the show is doomed and is just going to be stupid then get canceled.
07-11-2022, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
lol like I saidUnless they get new writers or get serious, the show is doomed and is just going to be stupid then get canceled.
It’s dead.
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07-11-2022, 01:32 PM
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07-11-2022, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By XiangYu⏩
Libs gon libim confused why so many people on youtube are praising the **** out of this episode.
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07-11-2022, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By XiangYu⏩
its a good episode, trumpcels itt just triggeredim confused why so many people on youtube are praising the **** out of this episode.
07-11-2022, 01:58 PM
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Lol the obvious in your face parallels between the “nazi/ homelander supporters” and Trump supporters is beyond a juvenile attempt to get a jab at Conservatives.
The show went full woke/Democratic propaganda mode in a second.
The show went full woke/Democratic propaganda mode in a second.
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