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post 1664365923 07-13-2022, 09:49 PM
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Homebuyers are backing out of deals - 15%+

Homebuyers are anticipating housing price drops and backing out of deals, where now 15% of buyers are backing out of deals.

This should increase inventory quite a bit. In hot markets like Phoenix, Vegas, Boise, people are backing out at 25%, 27%, 22% respectively.

Interest rates are only going to go up due to inflation being at 9%. Might be at double digits interest rates by the end of the year.
post 1664366193 07-13-2022, 09:59 PM
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The problem with housing and Realestate in general which makes it un-affordable is the way that banks and financial institutions allow people to do cash out refinances on 80% of the "appraised value". I know several people who do this and when I first heard about it, it seemed so easy that I thought it was illegal, but nope it is perfectly legal. This speculation and leveraging appraised values of realestate causes the actual worth of the houses to artificially inflated. We need landlords, that I understand but the game seems rigged once you find a banker willing to work with you. My buddy was able to buy 4 houses this last year doing just that, meanwhile he can't even lift a hammer or hang a door. Its all just a bull **** financial pyramid scheme. I bought rentals using alternative financing but I flipped them myself and know what I'm doing. meanwhile there are guys out there doing cash out refinance and buying as many rentals as possible. Everyone wants to be a land-chad real estate mogul. It really is just a matter of if you can get a banker to work with you after that you can print money. I hate it ..

For example, my buddy bought a house for $30,000. Somehow the bank thinks it is worth $115,000. So they cut him a check for 80% of the $115,000. SO he buys a house and the bank turns around and cuts him a check for $92,000!! WTF!

The fundamentals are all totally ****ed right now in realestate. The fact that this is happening all over the country makes the prices of homes totally screwed up.
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I'm sure some people who were offering to pay over asking price, cover costs, no inspections, ect are backing out. There are always backouts.
Originally Posted By Bigworm365
The problem with housing and Realestate in general which makes it un-affordable is the way that banks and financial institutions allow people to do cash out refinances on 80% of the "appraised value". I know several people who do this and when I first heard about it, it seemed so easy that I thought it was illegal, but nope it is perfectly legal. This speculation and leveraging appraised values of realestate causes the actual worth of the houses to artificially inflated. We need landlords, that I understand but the game seems rigged once you find a banker willing to work with you. My buddy was able to buy 4 houses this last year doing just that, meanwhile he can't even lift a hammer or hang a door. Its all just a bull **** financial pyramid scheme. I bought rentals using alternative financing but I flipped them myself and know what I'm doing. meanwhile there are guys out there doing cash out refinance and buying as many rentals as possible. Everyone wants to be a land-chad real estate mogul. It really is just a matter of if you can get a banker to work with you after that you can print money. I hate it ..
Then he can use equity from those homes to buy more. I was seeing how this is common where a trick the very wealthy use is they will use their own money to invest and then take out loans on their investments because that money is not taxable and then use that money to do what they want and invest using that. Building a house of cards with bank loan statements. If all else fails they just walk away and let the house fall down on itself and one loan goes after another. Sure, they lose it all but they gained a whole lot in the process. Of course a lot more complicated than that.
post 1664366863 07-13-2022, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
I'm sure some people who were offering to pay over asking price, cover costs, no inspections, ect are backing out. There are always backouts.



Then he can use equity from those homes to buy more. I was seeing how this is commonu where a trick the very wealthy use is they will use their own money to invest and then take out loans on their investments because that money is not taxable and then use that money to do what they want and invest using that. Building a house of cards with bank loan statements. If all else fails they just walk away and let the house fall down on itself and one loan goes after another. Sure, they lose it all but they gained a whole lot in the process. Of course a lot more complicated than that.
That there’s always back outs is obvious, and misses the point.

What is the average blackout rate?
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Looks like cities with huge housing bubbles are experiencing the largest amount of back outs. Could be because prices are too high and now unaffordable for the area.
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Fkn lol

They better buy now before interest hike up.
Losers let it happen, winners make it happen.

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post 1664382773 07-14-2022, 08:43 AM
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I TOLD YOU SO



You would HAVE to be a RETARD to be holding property in 2022. INB4COPE
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916
Fkn lol

They better buy now before interest hike up.
It's already over for them.
post 1664383113 07-14-2022, 08:52 AM
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no **** you'd have to be retard to think housing wasn't gunna pullback...
inb4 same retards hurrrrrr rents dueee hurr

****ing stupid ****s
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BOOMERS ARE 42% OF ALL US HOMEOWNERS.
When you add in the silent and greatest generation homeowners, that figure is almost half of all housing in the US owned by boomers or older.
ALMOST all boomers will die between now and the next 15 years causing aTSUNAMI OF HOUSING INVENTORY.and the biggest housing market crash in world history.
Homecels, when will they ever learn?
https://constructioncoverage.com/res...g-markets-2020
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Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh
no **** you'd have to be retard to think housing wasn't gunna pullback...
inb4 same retards hurrrrrr rents dueee hurr

****ing stupid ****s
Cope.
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I’m trynna close on this bad boy right now

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Originally Posted By Destor
I’m trynna close on this bad boy right now

BS, no spoon on house.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Looks like cities with huge housing bubbles are experiencing the largest amount of back outs. Could be because prices are too high and now unaffordable for the area.
Potential homebuyers, and and those canceling contracts"Why would I buy this house for this much money in Texas, Florida, Idaho, Arizona, Tennessee, Georgia, etc when I'll be able to buy a house for that same price in California, Hawaii, or New York after the Housing Market Crashes BIGLY?"
post 1664383583 07-14-2022, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Bigworm365
The problem with housing and Realestate in general which makes it un-affordable is the way that banks and financial institutions allow people to do cash out refinances on 80% of the "appraised value". I know several people who do this and when I first heard about it, it seemed so easy that I thought it was illegal, but nope it is perfectly legal. This speculation and leveraging appraised values of realestate causes the actual worth of the houses to artificially inflated. We need landlords, that I understand but the game seems rigged once you find a banker willing to work with you. My buddy was able to buy 4 houses this last year doing just that, meanwhile he can't even lift a hammer or hang a door. Its all just a bull **** financial pyramid scheme. I bought rentals using alternative financing but I flipped them myself and know what I'm doing. meanwhile there are guys out there doing cash out refinance and buying as many rentals as possible. Everyone wants to be a land-chad real estate mogul. It really is just a matter of if you can get a banker to work with you after that you can print money. I hate it ..

For example, my buddy bought a house for $30,000. Somehow the bank thinks it is worth $115,000. So they cut him a check for 80% of the $115,000. SO he buys a house and the bank turns around and cuts him a check for $92,000!! WTF!

The fundamentals are all totally ****ed right now in realestate. The fact that this is happening all over the country makes the prices of homes totally screwed up.
Banks don't "think" the house is worth anything. They are required by law to have a random appraiser assigned to the loan request who comps the house with recent sales nearby.
post 1664383633 07-14-2022, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By saltypits
BS, no spoon on house.
I thought about bringing a spoon, maybe after the deal is done done haha
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There are indeed wealthy buyers who've bought homes purely just because they "hold value"... wrong, houses need constant repair, maintenance, insurance, property taxes... after holding a house and trying to rent it out, most investors will sour on the idea and just sell it off and go back into the stock market where such nuisances don't exist...


Boyos, 60%....
Everything I post is satire.
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If you didn't buy a house when the interest rates were 3%, you're absolutely fooked. Interest rates are fooking the market.

Even if the market crashes 30%, you're still paying a lot less in real terms than current prices if you bought at the peak.

Paid a lot for my house in 2021, but also have a 3% rate. No fuks given because my $2500 payment on my $600k house in 2030 is going to be easy. Meanwhile, your $4000 rent on your 600 sq ft apartment in 2030 is going to be difficult.

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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
There are indeed wealthy buyers who've bought homes purely just because they "hold value"... wrong, houses need constant repair, maintenance, insurance, property taxes... after holding a house and trying to rent it out, most investors will sour on the idea and just sell it off and go back into the stock market where such nuisances don't exist...


Boyos, 60%....
lol if you don't think rentcels are covering those costs.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
There are indeed wealthy buyers who've bought homes purely just because they "hold value"... wrong, houses need constant repair, maintenance, insurance, property taxes... after holding a house and trying to rent it out, most investors will sour on the idea and just sell it off and go back into the stock market where such nuisances don't exist...


Boyos, 60%....
Homes absolutely depreciate. The land however...
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
lol if you don't think rentcels are covering those costs.
LOL @ you for thinking rent is mandatory....WRONG... rent is optional in Biden's America....
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By lockdev
If you didn't buy a house when the interest rates were 3%, you're absolutely fooked. Interest rates are fooking the market.

Even if the market crashes 30%, you're still paying a lot less in real terms than current prices if you bought at the peak.

Paid a lot for my house in 2021, but also have a 3% rate. No fuks given because my $2500 payment on my $600k house in 2030 is going to be easy. Meanwhile, your $4000 rent on your 600 sq ft apartment in 2030 is going to be difficult.

2.625% locked in rate (permanent, doesn't change every 5 years like for Beavercels), also didn't end up paying some massively inflated price either.

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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
LOL @ you for thinking rent is mandatory....WRONG... rent is optional in Biden's America....
You should just stop paying rent then and report back what happens to the misk.
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my advice to rentcels:

wait until not just the crash but also the fed slamming rates again, but before the slammed rates cause an uptick in pricing

where i live the crash started in 2008 but the bottom was in 2012

not saying it's gonna take that long, but there is a lag

watch the case-shiller charts for your area

srs
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Originally Posted By Polaris
2.625% locked in rate (permanent, doesn't change every 5 years like for Beavercels), also didn't end up paying some massively inflated price either.
watching your same house drop by 200K as I swoop in to buy it up mortgage free. When you got another 25 years to go.


this is how I move on your block.

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Originally Posted By Ratfish
my advice to rentcels:

wait until not just the crash but also the fed slamming rates again, but before the slammed rates cause an uptick in pricing

where i live the crash started in 2008 but the bottom was in 2012

not saying it's gonna take that long, but there is a lag

watch the case-shiller charts for your area

srs
Honestly if house prices crash you can just buy at whatever the current rate is -- if its not ridiculous -- then refinance as they come back down. You don't even have to time it. Just get the house you want at the right price, keep your credit score in check, and refinance.
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
watching your same house by 200K as I swoop in to buy it up mortgage free. When you got another 25 years to go.


this is how I move on your block.

Chang, ****** and Mr Shekelberg gonna swoop in and buy up everything.......
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
You should just stop paying rent then and report back what happens to the misk.
Biden says I ain't gotta pay sh/t, but you gotta keep up repairs and maintenance....
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916
Fkn lol

They better buy now before interest hike up.
There’s a few houses that I saw that were bought for $500K in May, then immediately put back on the market for $750K. They’ve been sitting since with gradual price cuts down to $680K.

Seems like a noob investor.
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
watching your same house drop by 200K as I swoop in to buy it up mortgage free. When you got another 25 years to go.


this is how I move on your block.

Lol do you even have any money?
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