Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum
» Anyone think about leaving America permanantly?
  1. Results 1 to 30 of 99
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Last
post 1664886203 07-24-2022, 09:48 AM
-
#1
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2014
  4. Location: Texas, United States
  5. Posts: 1,281
  6. Rep Power: 10259

Anyone think about leaving America permanantly?

Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
post 1664886283 07-24-2022, 09:50 AM
-
#2
  1. Redfish225
  2. Hunter/Fisherbreh
  1. Redfish225
  2. Hunter/Fisherbreh
  3. Join Date: Aug 2012
  4. Posts: 69,167
  5. Rep Power: 903956
Deuces
I loe e.
post 1664886433 07-24-2022, 09:57 AM
-
#3
  1. Kay4Kool
  2. Censored
  1. Kay4Kool
  2. Censored
  3. Join Date: Feb 2011
  4. Posts: 8,775
  5. Rep Power: 74712
Yup
post 1664886513 07-24-2022, 09:58 AM
-
#4
  1. blazenbb
  2. Registered User
  1. blazenbb
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 6,874
  6. Rep Power: 49941
Try leaving your moms basement first
post 1664886523 07-24-2022, 09:59 AM
-
#5
  1. crupiea
  2. Lifetime Member
  1. crupiea
  2. Lifetime Member
  3. Join Date: Aug 2006
  4. Location: San Diego, California, United States
  5. Posts: 42,878
  6. Rep Power: 232216
Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.

Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars

Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.

A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
"To be a warrior is not a simple matter of wishing to be one. It is rather an endless struggle that will go on to the very last moment of our lives. Nobody is born a warrior, in exactly the same way that nobody is born an average man. We make ourselves into one or the other."-- Carlos Castaneda
post 1664886533 07-24-2022, 09:59 AM
-
#6
  1. imbored205
  2. 7 inches
  1. imbored205
  2. 7 inches
  3. Join Date: Jul 2011
  4. Location: San Jose, California, United States
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 3,347
  7. Rep Power: 38731
Thailand is not welcoming to "immigrants".

Only way to stay there long term is marriage or retirement visa.
What comes around comes around
I want to believe
post 1664886853 07-24-2022, 10:06 AM
-
#7
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2014
  4. Location: Texas, United States
  5. Posts: 1,281
  6. Rep Power: 10259
Originally Posted By crupiea
Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.

Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars

Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.

A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
You obviously haven't tried to buy a car in America recently. Average car payment is now over $700/month.
post 1664886953 07-24-2022, 10:08 AM
-
#8
  1. wasp9166
  2. straight out da bronx
  1. wasp9166
  2. straight out da bronx
  3. Join Date: Nov 2008
  4. Location: NY
  5. Posts: 52,748
  6. Subscribers: 3
  7. Rep Power: 516845
Yes

Portugal ?

Costa Rica?

Dunno

Long as my pension and ss travels ,havent looked into it
post 1664887003 07-24-2022, 10:09 AM
-
#9
  1. MuscleXtreme
  2. INTJ - Christian
  1. MuscleXtreme
  2. INTJ - Christian
  3. Join Date: Aug 2011
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 28,256
  6. Rep Power: 93116
Good, I hope all of you libtards leave.
post 1664887143 07-24-2022, 10:12 AM
-
#10
  1. DeadlyStriker
  2. Registered User
  1. DeadlyStriker
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2011
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 24,113
  6. Rep Power: 302177
It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.

Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.

Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
post 1664887193 07-24-2022, 10:14 AM
-
#11
  1. stevebec
  2. Unregistered User
  1. stevebec
  2. Unregistered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2015
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 6,544
  6. Rep Power: 57623
Used to think about moving/retiring to Tuvalu where my wife has land and we could live super cheap, but it's changed so much since when I was living there that I don't even have any desire to go back and visit any more. Our last trip for Christmas 2018 is probably the last time I'll ever be there.
"Bones heal, pain is temporary, and chicks dig scars" - Evel Knievel
post 1664887203 07-24-2022, 10:14 AM
-
#12
  1. psai
  2. Gene's got my back (srs)
  1. psai
  2. Gene's got my back (srs)
  3. Join Date: May 2011
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 21,544
  6. Rep Power: 89517
speaking as an immigrant to america, people who were born and raised here have no idea how good they have it srs.
"Psai is the love child of Rick Ross, Ghandi and Oz" - Phoenix9369

"you are going to be an excellent father, loving husband, and an unselfish lover one day" - TellitAgain

"You'll always be my favorite CEO. Always." - Tweedurr

"I have big respect for any young man as hard working as Psai" - Motiviert
post 1664887253 07-24-2022, 10:16 AM
-
#13
  1. NuggzTheNinja
  2. Exotic Game Hunter
  1. NuggzTheNinja
  2. Exotic Game Hunter
  3. Join Date: Oct 2004
  4. Posts: 31,871
  5. Rep Power: 237953
Originally Posted By crupiea
Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.

Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars

Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.

A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
This guy knows.
This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
post 1664887873 07-24-2022, 10:32 AM
-
#14
  1. ChunkBuster
  2. Registered User
  1. ChunkBuster
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 10,272
  6. Rep Power: 63230
There’s no work on Portugal. High taxes. Good for retirement.

Move because you want a change, yes. But anyone that moves country because of hipsters has lost not won.

You need German for Germany and Switzerland.
post 1664888333 07-24-2022, 10:43 AM
-
#15
  1. guest89
  2. Forever aBOARD
  1. guest89
  2. Forever aBOARD
  3. Join Date: Sep 2003
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 41,701
  6. Rep Power: 170156
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.

Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.

Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
I actually think Tate's mindset on life makes the most sense, which is why he's grown so popular . Instead of a life of fear and scarcity. A life of incredible excess and freedom.
post 1664888343 07-24-2022, 10:43 AM
-
#16
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  1. SevenFigures
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2014
  4. Location: Texas, United States
  5. Posts: 1,281
  6. Rep Power: 10259
Originally Posted By XterraRob
Fix America instead of running away.

Apathy is what brought us here.
We would need a genocide
post 1664888953 07-24-2022, 10:57 AM
-
#17
  1. BigTimeOperator
  1. BigTimeOperator
  2. Join Date: Jul 2017
  3. Posts: 13,381
  4. Subscribers: 1
  5. Rep Power: 113864
Makes more sense to bail to West Texas for retirement
post 1664889093 07-24-2022, 11:00 AM
-
#18
  1. TokenWhiteKid
  2. Registered User
  1. TokenWhiteKid
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Mar 2021
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 69
  6. Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted By SevenFigures
Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
america is quite literally the best country in the world. if you hate america then chances are you wont like anywhere else. and good luck with xenophobia lol.
post 1664889263 07-24-2022, 11:04 AM
-
#19
  1. Deathstroke
  2. What about Biden!
  1. Deathstroke
  2. What about Biden!
  3. Join Date: Feb 2005
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 110,435
  6. Subscribers: 1
  7. Rep Power: 431363
Yea but where is safe for the next 5-10 years, English language and safe for a family, when Russia, Iran and China nuke the us? Where I dunno.
post 1664889623 07-24-2022, 11:12 AM
-
#20
  1. Jasonw1178
  2. 5'3" 300lbs Fudge Rounds
  1. Jasonw1178
  2. 5'3" 300lbs Fudge Rounds
  3. Join Date: Dec 2012
  4. Posts: 44,104
  5. Rep Power: 271274
Maybe try a different part of the US first? US isn't perfect but we have a lot of things going for us.
post 1664889653 07-24-2022, 11:13 AM
-
#21
  1. XiangYu
  2. u wot m8
  1. XiangYu
  2. u wot m8
  3. Join Date: Jun 2013
  4. Location: Germany
  5. Posts: 3,525
  6. Rep Power: 4134
Originally Posted By SevenFigures
Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving toGermany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
Germany is a ****hole. No point going there.
post 1664889913 07-24-2022, 11:18 AM
-
#22
  1. ChunkBuster
  2. Registered User
  1. ChunkBuster
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 10,272
  6. Rep Power: 63230
Lmfao @ op thinking Hungary welcomes immigrants. He must have missed the thread earlier…

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181557853
post 1664890203 07-24-2022, 11:23 AM
-
#23
  1. MisterJustice
  2. Praise The Sun
  1. MisterJustice
  2. Praise The Sun
  3. Join Date: Nov 2014
  4. Posts: 6,608
  5. Rep Power: 26705
Are you aware how poor Europeans are? Lol
☀ Praise The Sun ☀

My new free supplement for increasing test levels
http://i.imgur.com/e0rCOjx.gif

All content generated by this account is a work of fiction and may serve only the purpose of possible entertainment value. Any resemblance to actual events or people is purely coincidental and not intentional.
post 1664890633 07-24-2022, 11:31 AM
-
#24
  1. keyboardworkout
  2. ChatGPT4.5 Bot
  1. keyboardworkout
  2. ChatGPT4.5 Bot
  3. Join Date: Jul 2009
  4. Posts: 36,953
  5. Rep Power: 416934
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...une_17,%202008

IRS Expatriation Tax of 23.8%
Expatriation on or after June 17, 2008

If you expatriated on or after June 17, 2008, the new IRC 877A expatriation rules apply to you if any of the following statements apply.

Your average annual net income tax for the 5 years ending before the date of expatriation or termination of residency is more than a specified amount that is adjusted for inflation ($162,000 for 2017, $165,000 for 2018, $168,000 for 2019, and $171,000 for 2020.
Your net worth is $2 million or more on the date of your expatriation or termination of residency.
You fail to certify on Form 8854 that you have complied with all U.S. federal tax obligations for the 5 years preceding the date of your expatriation or termination of residency.

If any of these rules apply, you are a “covered expatriate.”

A citizen will be treated as relinquishing his or her U.S. citizenship on the earliest of four possible dates:

the date the individual renounces his or her U.S. nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States, provided the renunciation is subsequently approved by the issuance to the individual of a certificate of loss of nationality by the U.S. Department of State;
the date the individual furnishes to the U.S. Department of State a signed statement of voluntary relinquishment of U.S. nationality confirming the performance of an act of expatriation specified in paragraph (1), (2), (3), or (4) of section 349(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(1)-(4)), provided the voluntary relinquishment is subsequently approved by the issuance to the individual of a certificate of loss of nationality by the U.S. Department of State;
the date the U.S. Department of State issues to the individual a certificate of loss of nationality; or
the date a U.S. court cancels a naturalized citizen’s certificate of naturalization.

For long-term residents, as defined in IRC 7701(b)(6), a long-term resident ceases to be a lawful permanent resident if:

the individual’s status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an immigrant in accordance with immigration laws has been revoked or has been administratively or judicially determined to have been abandoned, or
the individual:
commences to be treated as a resident of a foreign country under the provisions of a tax treaty between the United States and the foreign country,
does not waive the benefits of the treaty applicable to residents of the foreign country, and
notifies the IRS of such treatment on Forms 8833 and 8854.

IRC 877A imposes a mark-to-market regime, which generally means that all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date. Any gain arising from the deemed sale is taken into account for the tax year of the deemed sale notwithstanding any other provisions of the Code. Any loss from the deemed sale is taken into account for the tax year of the deemed sale to the extent otherwise provided in the Code, except that the wash sale rules of IRC 1091 do not apply.

The amount that would otherwise be includible in gross income by reason of the deemed sale rule is reduced (but not to below zero) by $600,000, which amount is to be adjusted for inflation for calendar years after 2008 (the “exclusion amount”). For calendar year 2020, the exclusion amount is $737,000. For other years, refer to the Instructions for Form 8854.

The amount of any gain or loss subsequently realized (i.e., pursuant to the disposition of the property) will be adjusted for gain and loss taken into account under the IRC 877A mark-to-market regime, without regard to the exclusion amount. A taxpayer may elect to defer payment of tax attributable to property deemed sold.

For more detailed information regarding the IRC 877A mark-to-market regime, refer to Notice 2009-85.

Form 8854, Initial and Annual Expatriation Information Statement, and its Instructions have been revised to permit individuals to meet the new notification and information reporting requirements. The revised Form 8854 and its instructions also address how individuals should certify (in accordance with the new law) that they have met their federal tax obligations for the five preceding taxable years and what constitutes notification to the Department of State or the Department of Homeland Security.

Note. If you expatriated before June 17, 2008, the expatriation rules in effect at that time continue to apply. See chapter 4 in Publication 519, U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens, for more information.
▪█─────█▪ Equipment Crew #53 ▪█─────█▪
^^^^^^^ 6' 6" and Over Crew ^^^^^^^
------------- No Vax Crew ----------------
post 1664890683 07-24-2022, 11:33 AM
-
#25
  1. GooBaaa
  1. GooBaaa
  2. Join Date: Sep 2011
  3. Location: Buffalo NY
  4. Posts: 58,908
  5. Subscribers: 5
  6. Rep Power: 436642
Yah brah

Retiring to the Dominican, gonna start a boat tour group srs
post 1664890793 07-24-2022, 11:35 AM
-
#26
  1. seanb1979
  2. Platinum User
  1. seanb1979
  2. Platinum User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2006
  4. Location: Boise, Idaho, United States
  5. Posts: 48,650
  6. Rep Power: 150567
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.

Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.

Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
Europe doesn't have a lot of farm land and I think we will be seeing some dark times in europe soon with the fuel crisis looming and the governments actively fighting to take over farm land.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
post 1664890873 07-24-2022, 11:38 AM
-
#27
  1. forthenoodz
  2. Registered User
  1. forthenoodz
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2009
  4. Posts: 13,860
  5. Rep Power: 17632
Originally Posted By SevenFigures
Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
singapore is definitely a good place.

little crime, no BLM riots and no political wokeness bull**** there.
post 1664890933 07-24-2022, 11:40 AM
-
#28
  1. DeadlyStriker
  2. Registered User
  1. DeadlyStriker
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2011
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 24,113
  6. Rep Power: 302177
Originally Posted By seanb1979
Europe doesn't have a lot of farm land and I think we will be seeing some dark times in europe soon with the fuel crisis looming and the governments actively fighting to take over farm land.
Yes I see that already in Netherlands and Germany. Not looking good for the Euro brahs.
post 1664890983 07-24-2022, 11:40 AM
-
#29
  1. God_Given
  2. Registered User
  1. God_Given
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2007
  4. Location: United States
  5. Age: 40
  6. Posts: 3,057
  7. Rep Power: 17826
Not sure, OP.

Been hearing about a ton of people moving to Canada the last few years and they have never done it. They just sit here and bitch and moan
post 1664891043 07-24-2022, 11:41 AM
-
#30
  1. God_Given
  2. Registered User
  1. God_Given
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2007
  4. Location: United States
  5. Age: 40
  6. Posts: 3,057
  7. Rep Power: 17826
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Yes I see that already in Netherlands and Germany. Not looking good for the Euro brahs.
The EU is more corrupt than NATO.

Repped and agree with you
Quick Navigation Top Misc
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts