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07-24-2022, 09:48 AM
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Anyone think about leaving America permanantly?
Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
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Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
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Thailand is not welcoming to "immigrants".
Only way to stay there long term is marriage or retirement visa.
Only way to stay there long term is marriage or retirement visa.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
You obviously haven't tried to buy a car in America recently. Average car payment is now over $700/month.Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
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Good, I hope all of you libtards leave.
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It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
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Used to think about moving/retiring to Tuvalu where my wife has land and we could live super cheap, but it's changed so much since when I was living there that I don't even have any desire to go back and visit any more. Our last trip for Christmas 2018 is probably the last time I'll ever be there.
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speaking as an immigrant to america, people who were born and raised here have no idea how good they have it srs.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
This guy knows.Go to another country and first use the same toilet the locals use. Not in the fancy hotel but in the actual places the locals live day to day.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
Then talk to them about their taxes. Then try to buy a car. The taxes alone are insane on most places. Thats why they all ride motorbikes and bicycles. They cant afford cars
Those simple things alone are enough make just about anyone realize just how great this nation is. Sure, there are problems but nowhere remotely near like it is elsewhere. If you see something you dont approve of here, takes steps to fix it or simply ignore it.
A few fat hipsters is not worth a lifetime of no toilet seat and paper.
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There’s no work on Portugal. High taxes. Good for retirement.
Move because you want a change, yes. But anyone that moves country because of hipsters has lost not won.
You need German for Germany and Switzerland.
Move because you want a change, yes. But anyone that moves country because of hipsters has lost not won.
You need German for Germany and Switzerland.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
I actually think Tate's mindset on life makes the most sense, which is why he's grown so popular . Instead of a life of fear and scarcity. A life of incredible excess and freedom.It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
We would need a genocideFix America instead of running away.
Apathy is what brought us here.
Apathy is what brought us here.
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Makes more sense to bail to West Texas for retirement
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Originally Posted By SevenFigures⏩
america is quite literally the best country in the world. if you hate america then chances are you wont like anywhere else. and good luck with xenophobia lol.Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
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Yea but where is safe for the next 5-10 years, English language and safe for a family, when Russia, Iran and China nuke the us? Where I dunno.
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Maybe try a different part of the US first? US isn't perfect but we have a lot of things going for us.
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Originally Posted By SevenFigures⏩
Germany is a ****hole. No point going there.Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving toGermany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
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Lmfao @ op thinking Hungary welcomes immigrants. He must have missed the thread earlier…
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Are you aware how poor Europeans are? Lol
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For long-term residents, as defined in IRC 7701(b)(6), a long-term resident ceases to be a lawful permanent resident if:
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does not waive the benefits of the treaty applicable to residents of the foreign country, and
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IRC 877A imposes a mark-to-market regime, which generally means that all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date. Any gain arising from the deemed sale is taken into account for the tax year of the deemed sale notwithstanding any other provisions of the Code. Any loss from the deemed sale is taken into account for the tax year of the deemed sale to the extent otherwise provided in the Code, except that the wash sale rules of IRC 1091 do not apply.
The amount that would otherwise be includible in gross income by reason of the deemed sale rule is reduced (but not to below zero) by $600,000, which amount is to be adjusted for inflation for calendar years after 2008 (the “exclusion amount”). For calendar year 2020, the exclusion amount is $737,000. For other years, refer to the Instructions for Form 8854.
The amount of any gain or loss subsequently realized (i.e., pursuant to the disposition of the property) will be adjusted for gain and loss taken into account under the IRC 877A mark-to-market regime, without regard to the exclusion amount. A taxpayer may elect to defer payment of tax attributable to property deemed sold.
For more detailed information regarding the IRC 877A mark-to-market regime, refer to Notice 2009-85.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Europe doesn't have a lot of farm land and I think we will be seeing some dark times in europe soon with the fuel crisis looming and the governments actively fighting to take over farm land.It's not worth it. Although I do like Andrew Tate's view on this. I almost hate bringing him up now because he's everywhere now and I used to watch him before his excessive fame. However, his idea is to get on as many grids as possible vs. the off grid mentality. So getting as many passports, licenses, citizenships as possible. It makes it easy to be able to move or travel wherever if necessary. Pretty unique idea and probably a good move going forward for brahs with more money.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
Besides that though, you won't find solace in any other place really. Everywhere has its own issues. You're better off trying to create a better community wherever you want to live. That may take some travel in the US or even the world if you truly do want to leave the US.
Eventually I want to live in both the US and Sweden (more northern/rural sweden). Sweden seems retarded to live in, but get away from the cities and it's a different world.
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Originally Posted By SevenFigures⏩
singapore is definitely a good place.Tired of America. Too many fat hipsters here now. I heard it's pretty easy to get citizenship in Portugal. Sometimes I think about moving to Germany or Czechia. *****, Singapore and Thailand also welcome immigrants. Maybe even New Zealand or switzerland or Hungary
little crime, no BLM riots and no political wokeness bull**** there.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Yes I see that already in Netherlands and Germany. Not looking good for the Euro brahs.Europe doesn't have a lot of farm land and I think we will be seeing some dark times in europe soon with the fuel crisis looming and the governments actively fighting to take over farm land.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
The EU is more corrupt than NATO.Yes I see that already in Netherlands and Germany. Not looking good for the Euro brahs.
Repped and agree with you
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