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post 1664633233 07-19-2022, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
opportunity is algo trading platform product management (so mostly tech) not IBD

IBD or client facing markets work is impossible without the language, even in HK you would need Cantonese for that

my logic is simply that company internal transfer would be easy under a big name with a large geo-span

I know a guy who worked for the same in London for a year with the exact same academic credentials as me (but he worked in cyber security) and successfully went there
i think for IBD still possible but yes now it's tough.

you can try SG but trust me, it's hard to get a visa.
post 1664741053 07-21-2022, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Softworn⏩
Would do unspeakable things to live as a zoo keeper in Japan, anything honestly — janitor, substitute teacher, whatever terrible jobs nobody wants to do here. I will do them all there if it gets me citizenship there permanently. Clown world can go **** itself on both sides.
I don't know what idea you have of Japan but it isn't clown world free. Tokyo alone is the largest LGTVBBQ++ in the asian world. Not to mention, all of those weird cartoons and porn aren't just a small portion of the society. There are a lot of real psychological time bombs waiting to go off. That weird work lifestyle is insane and honest unneeded.
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post 1664741183 07-21-2022, 08:59 AM
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Why don’t you take an extended vacation and book a long month stay at a city? This way you’re not dropping everything and still can experience it somewhat lengthy timeframe
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post 1664741383 07-21-2022, 09:05 AM
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post 1664741483 07-21-2022, 09:06 AM
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Does opie have marketable skills to live and work in a foreign center? Lol
post 1664741523 07-21-2022, 09:07 AM
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Japan would never accept you into society though.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1664742223 07-21-2022, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By GeezersPalace⏩
Does opie have marketable skills to live and work in a foreign center? Lol
BSc Comp Sci top 5 UK uni

3 years Software Engineering in a trading platform team at a BB Investment Bank (London office).

Have an offer to join a Top 3 USA BB Investment Bank as a Product Manager on their algorithmic trading platform (in London office) -> possibly using this to transfer


Nothing flashy but I guess the easiest way is to get a large corporate internal transfer and I think I am decent

But having touched on this above, unless I decide to become a CompSci/Math teacher in an international school (where curriculum is in English), I think JPN/SK are out of the question because language barrier will be a problem for jobs
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post 1664742963 07-21-2022, 09:32 AM
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Japan looks cool. Would love to play baseball there.
post 1664921053 07-24-2022, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
BSc Comp Sci top 5 UK uni

3 years Software Engineering in a trading platform team at a BB Investment Bank (London office).

Have an offer to join a Top 3 USA BB Investment Bank as a Product Manager on their algorithmic trading platform (in London office) -> possibly using this to transfer


Nothing flashy but I guess the easiest way is to get a large corporate internal transfer and I think I am decent

But having touched on this above, unless I decide to become a CompSci/Math teacher in an international school (where curriculum is in English), I think JPN/SK are out of the question because language barrier will be a problem for jobs
Japan has been out of the question for most people for a couple decades now, South Korea is not and never is an option for anyone in Finance, you will only see top executives from Korean companies go there for sabiticals, all foreigners there teach English.

You could go to Singapore, Australia, maybe Hong Kong, and US (but US is a bit tricky right now, and it's much more expensive for to bring people over right now) to be fair though, your probably one of the few guys that has this option on the misc.
post 1664926403 07-25-2022, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By GeezersPalace⏩
Japan has been out of the question for most people for a couple decades now, South Korea is not and never is an option for anyone in Finance, you will only see top executives from Korean companies go there for sabiticals, all foreigners there teach English.

You could go to Singapore, Australia, maybe Hong Kong, and US (but US is a bit tricky right now, and it's much more expensive for to bring people over right now) to be fair though, your probably one of the few guys that has this option on the misc.
Yep that is what I heard as well - everything in SK/Japan in a professional calibre is definitely hard unless you speak the language.

I am glad that you think that way of my skills - indeed, I am not a marketing guy in a no-name mid sized company in the middle of nowhere.

Two things I want to touch:

- As for SG/HK/AUS/US - doesnt necessarily have to be the Finance domain in tech? I would use it to transfer but then I would seek to get into another type of company. E.g. I have a friend who worked in London in that Top 3 USA BB in cyber security, transferred to SG but then quit and moved into a tech company in cyber security (again in SG).

- As for teaching - I guess all countries, including JP/SK, have the option to be a CS/Maths teacher. That is because there is actually more demand for subject teaching (in an international school with an English curriculum) rather than pure English teaching (which many people can offer).
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post 1664926543 07-25-2022, 06:27 AM
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You’d be sent to hard labor camp in China for speaking negatively of their gov in Hong Kong
post 1664927153 07-25-2022, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I mean that sounds like any western metropolitan

I remain unconvinced that the wealth spread is significantly inferior
It's much, much worse in HK. HK is highest COL city in the world. Living arrangements are awful because there's a ridiculous amount of people and the land is so small, so apartments where you'd be living are the size of a closet in the US.

It's like if NYC was all on Staten Island
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post 1664927223 07-25-2022, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
It's much, much worse in HK. HK is highest COL city in the world. Living arrangements are awful because there's a ridiculous amount of people and the land is so small, so apartments where you'd be living are the size of a closet in the US.

It's like if NYC was all on Staten Island
I am open to this being the truth but you need to account for many things to get a true spread

Tax distribution, income parity, purchasing power parity of local food etc to get a true picture
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I am open to this being the truth but you need to account for many things to get a true spread

Tax distribution, income parity, purchasing power parity of local food etc to get a true picture
Average Hong Kong apartment is $1m+ USD and its a shoebox. A lot of multigenerational under one roof because property is so expensive there. Sure you can afford if you land a very high paying job.
post 1664928403 07-25-2022, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By mcdojo⏩
Average Hong Kong apartment is $1m+ USD and its a shoebox. A lot of multigenerational under one roof because property is so expensive there. Sure you can afford if you land a very high paying job.
Sillicon Valley, New York, London are all very similar if you adjust for taxation + local salaries (for the same calibre of job).

I will repeat myself again, I totally get how the "real estate affordability" might be less per 1 USD in HK and other places due to population density.

However, we need to do a lot of adjustment here. Taxation works differently, healthcare works differently to get a good picture. Trade off is how time consuming this is but basing **** off 1st and 2nd Google search results on "average rent" or "average salary" without much context is retard tier.

Example - a French kunt I know said his groceries bills went up a ****ton more during his exchange time in South Korea. And dig a bit deeper and turns out the kunt wanted to have European foods and specifically French pastry etc and all other rubbish. These are largely imports in East Asia with low economies of scale bargaining power (most East Asians prefer their own food) hence they become very expensive compared to local food (Kimchi based stuff, Korean BBQ meats etc).

I am an European and I would be able to easily forget about European foods. srs Otherwise this comparison makes no sense either way. So his view of "Food is expensive in SK" is completely skewed because economics not even once.
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