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post 1665217543 07-29-2022, 10:38 PM
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Are any grievances women have against men legit?

These bitches complain about us all the time:

- Creeps
- Misogynist
- Patriarchy
- Not attentive enough
- Attracted to other women
- Mansplaining
- Don't do chores
- Rape culture
- Harassment

These are just a few examples. Thinking of it from a sloot's perspective, do you think any of their multitudinous problems with us men are fair/reasonable?

Btw: lol at rape culture. It always made it sound to me like women thinking we get together with our male friends and actively encourage this. "What shall we do this weekend bro?" "Oh i don't know, why don't we go on a rape spree?"

I have never once heard a male friend express anything other than disgust at the idea of (genuine) rape or admit to committing the act but women act like we sit around recounting or rape conquests or something.
post 1665217583 07-29-2022, 10:40 PM
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post 1665217803 07-29-2022, 10:44 PM
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Probably not most of the ones you listed.

I think some long term relationship is worth considering, and actually trying the whole time probably is a feature of this.

I think a broader culture is the answer to stop them from asking unrealistic standards
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I think the problem women have with rape culture is our flippant attitude about it when the person put themselves at obvious risk. "A party huh, and she got drunk. And fukt up on drugs? Oh and she said she wanted to have sex, but didn't really mean it? How terrible."

I find it ludicrous that a person can be held responsible for driving when they're drunk, but not in control of what enters their vagina. How about "Hey Amy, I had too much vodka and am afraid I'll fuk this whole room if I have one more shot, let's go before I get raped."
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post 1665217993 07-29-2022, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux
These bitches complain about us all the time:

- Creeps
- Misogynist
- Patriarchy
- Not attentive enough
- Attracted to other women
- Mansplaining
- Don't do chores
- Rape culture
- Harassment

These are just a few examples. Thinking of it from a sloot's perspective, do you think any of their multitudinous problems with us men are fair/reasonable?

Btw: lol at rape culture. It always made it sound to me like women thinking we get together with our male friends and actively encourage this. "What shall we do this weekend bro?" "Oh i don't know, why don't we go on a rape spree?"

I have never once heard a male friend express anything other than disgust at the idea of (genuine) rape or admit to committing the act but women act like we sit around recounting or rape conquests or something.
That's because the term "rape" in a man's mind is actual rape whereas a women's definition of rape is so broad it turns rape into a meaningless term. "OMG that non-chad glanced in my direction, rape!"

Also I completely agree with Johnez. If you knowingly put yourself in a vulnerable position then you're to blame full stop. It doesn't make abuse ok. But it also doesn't absolve you of responsibility for what happened to you.
post 1665220323 07-29-2022, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeakethTruth
That's because the term "rape" in a man's mind is actual rape whereas a women's definition of rape is so broad it turns rape into a meaningless term. "OMG that non-chad glanced in my direction, rape!"

Also I completely agree with Johnez. If you knowingly put yourself in a vulnerable position then you're to blame full stop. It doesn't make abuse ok. But it also doesn't absolve you of responsibility for what happened to you.
Couldn't agree more with you guys. Plus women now want the ability to have consensual sex then decide 10 years later that it was actually rape.

Totally agree about the new definition of rape and how it's so broad. I think it's actually profoundly damaging to TRUE victims of rape. They'll be lumped in with all the women who claim they were 'raped' because some guy brushed up against them in a club.

The groupthink in females is astounding.
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I will say that virtually all (like 90%) human violence on Earth is done by men. So they do have grounds to complain. We also invent everything and basically do everything. But yea.
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Originally Posted By brovine
I will say that virtually all (like 90%) human violence on Earth is done by men. So they do have grounds to complain. We also invent everything and basically do everything. But yea.
It's true but most of that violence is man on man. We start wars, sure, but then we have to fight in them (not me, I'd run to the hills). Just lol that there was no outcry that Ukraine allowed all women to leave but forced all men in a certain age range to stay and fight.
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux
It's true but most of that violence is man on man. We start wars, sure, but then we have to fight in them (not me, I'd run to the hills). Just lol that there was no outcry that Ukraine allowed all women to leave but forced all men in a certain age range to stay and fight.
Yea but also almost all the violence vs women is also men. I mean they do have some grounds to complain. Women get harassed by men, and almost everything in society is planned around men and male needs.
post 1665220813 07-30-2022, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By brovine
Yea but also almost all the violence vs women is also men. I mean they do have some grounds to complain. Women get harassed by men, and almost everything in society is planned around men and male needs.
Can't agree with the last part brah but fair enough. Seems like we live in a massively gynocentric society to me. Check out this UN post on what was supposed to be 'Men's Day'

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i do think a lot of guys are legit creeps. theyre incels in denial and they keep hitting on women. or theyre too low iq to understand that situation. very few i think know whats going on and know theyre place
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Originally Posted By davik
i do think a lot of guys are legit creeps. theyre incels in denial and they keep hitting on women. or theyre too low iq to understand that situation. very few i think know whats going on and know theyre place
Strong no homo and no trannie but I do sometimes wonder what life would be like from a woman's perspective and whether getting hit on all the time is a genuine irritation. There are a few times that women that I wasn't into hit on me and I found rejecting them a bit awkward.
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux
Strong no homo and no trannie but I do sometimes wonder what life would be like from a woman's perspective and whether getting hit on all the time is a genuine irritation. There are a few times that women that I wasn't into hit on me and I found rejecting them a bit awkward.
you can see these gym videos where guys literally grope them or do some crazy **** from a distance. these dudes have legit mental problems and theyre all incels for sure.
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Originally Posted By davik
i do think a lot of guys are legit creeps. theyre incels in denial and they keep hitting on women. or theyre too low iq to understand that situation. very few i think know whats going on and know theyre place
JFL if you don't think there's creepy stalky women. They're relentless one they get started. I had one after me for almost 2 years when I was in my early 20's. Sloot though I was going to support her raise her kid. Hidious looking sloot.

There was another one when I was about 30. Some neighbour drunk sloot.
I had a hell of a time getting her to fuk off. Finally she fukked off and moved.
That one I would have fukked if she didn't have an old man. I didn't want to deal with the drama.
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post 1665221313 07-30-2022, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux
Can't agree with the last part brah but fair enough. Seems like we live in a massively gynocentric society to me. Check out this UN post on what was supposed to be 'Men's Day'

I mean globally. There are still parts of the world where women can't even get basic menstruation products, aren't allowed to go to school, drive, etc. There are young girls who aren't taught about periods and kill themselves thinking they have angered god and chit. They become ashamed of their own bodies. It's extremely fuked up. Life in the west is pretty good for women, but globally, women are still very oppressed. Many women do not get access to an education. Some are literally enslaved and raped. Honor killing is still a thing in some parts of the world too.

You have to realize there are like 7.8 billion people on Earth. A huge number of women basically have no hope in life.

American Karens have it really good. Some woman in Yemen, Afghanistan, Congo, Rural India or Pakistan, ****lia? Not so much.
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Originally Posted By brovine
Yea but also almost all the violence vs women is also men. I mean they do have some grounds to complain.
Why do they have grounds to complain about male violence if they are MUCH less likely to be victims of it. I have way more grounds to complain about male violence than any woman does, because as a man I have suffered more of it and am more likely to suffer more of it in future than the average woman will.

The problem is a really tiny proportion of the population who are commit acts of violence. How is it relevant if I have the same genitals as them?

People who push that agenda have no interest in stopping violence against women because if they did they would look at the factors associated with that. Instead they want to have a weapon against all men so they use that sleight of hand to ignore the causes of violence to advance their agenda.
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
Why do they have grounds to complain about male violence if they are MUCH less likely to be victims of it. I have way more grounds to complain about male violence than any woman does, because as a man I have suffered more of it and am more likely to suffer more of it in future than the average woman will.

The problem is a really tiny proportion of the population who are commit acts of violence. How is it relevant if I have the same genitals as them?

People who push that agenda have no interest in stopping violence against women because if they did they would look at the factors associated with that. Instead they want to have a weapon against all men so they use that sleight of hand to ignore the causes of violence to advance their agenda.
1) You can theoretically do something about it while most women are virtually completely defenseless.

2) You aren't responsible for what violent men do. It isn't that tiny a percentage -- especially if you consider domestic violence. Also, you need to look at it from the female pov. A huge number of women will experience some form of sexual battery in their lives. Again, you're thinking purely of western life. People who really want to improve the rights and conditions of women would look elsewhere. It's more about women in foreign countries.

The Karen bitching chit in the US is just a bunch of whiny coddled whores trying to get more stuff. But globally, the complaints by women are very real and valid.

The patriarchy isn't some guy manspreading on a train. It's the Taliban literally not letting women go to school. It's some fuktard from rural Pakistan honor killing his daughter after the local gangster raped her. It's some little girl killing herself because she's ashamed she got her period and no one taught her what was going on with her body. It's the poor ****lian woman who has to spend most of her time gathering water for the family. It's the young woman in Yemen who must choose between starvation of herself or her child. It's the Libyan 9 year old girl sold into sex slavery by the local warlord.

This is the patriarchy. Not me sitting on a train giving my balls a little breathing room.
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They are for the most part correct

They have no self awareness what so ever tho and will never admit to their own flaws.
The West is doomed.

Was visiting a kurdish family. The man was giving orders to his wife left & right whilst not getting up from the couch once. I think she knew she would be smacked If she stepped to him. Meanwhile western women have male friends, work part time & complain about their 6 figure Making husband not doing the dishes
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Originally Posted By brovine
1) You can theoretically do something about it while most women are virtually completely defenseless.

2) You aren't responsible for what violent men do. It isn't that tiny a percentage -- especially if you consider domestic violence. Also, you need to look at it from the female pov. A huge number of women will experience some form of sexual battery in their lives. Again, you're thinking purely of western life. People who really want to improve the rights and conditions of women would look elsewhere. It's more about women in foreign countries.


The Karen bitching chit in the US is just a bunch of whiny coddled whores trying to get more stuff. But globally, the complaints by women are very real and valid.
And this has been going on for centuries in all those backward countries.

We must not be doing everything right in the west. Look at the monster we've created since the 1960's. Purple hair feminists running around everywhere, weak soyboy "men", queers, groomers in our schools.

Legit feel bad for any of those countries if we stepped in to offer to "help" with the problem.
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Originally Posted By multiplemiggs
And this has been going on for centuries in all those backward countries.

We must not be doing everything right in the west. Look at the monster we've created since the 1960's. Purple hair feminists running around everywhere, queers, groomers in our schools.

Legit feel bad for any of those countries if we stepped in to offer to "help" with the problem.
Yep. Women's rights weren't a mistake. The sexual revolution and postmodernism were. Derrida and free love destroyed the west. Promiscuity is bad. Eventually, people will understand this. Queers are inevitable and should be tolerated. People having a gay pride parade and dancing naked provocatively in front of kids should not be tolerated.

And yes, our attempts to "fix" other nations have brought nothing but havoc and suffering to this Earth, for the most part.

Liberals (in the classical philosophical sense) are good. Libertines are not.
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Originally Posted By brovine
Yep. Women's rights weren't a mistake. The sexual revolution and postmodernism were. Derrida and free love destroyed the west. Promiscuity is bad. Eventually, people will understand this. Queers are inevitable and should be tolerated. People having a gay pride parade and dancing naked provocatively in front of kids should not be tolerated.

And yes, our attempts to "fix" other nations have brought nothing but havoc and suffering to this Earth, for the most part.

Liberals (in the classical philosophical sense) are good. Libertines are not.
Women's rights probably align with development by more stability, not only by choosing to raise children when richer (birth control) but also social development because women keep common efforts in good faith

I think families are probably the most common path to success realistic for any society and centralized values, otherwise.

I am not even convinced the top "innovators" need exempted from this. Is Elon Musk even contributing much? He raised lots of bastard failures and builds rockets to mog everyone like Jeff Bezos instead of investing in anything good for anyone else. It's like buying a bigger hat to impress everyone when he's rich and saying he's doing it for humanity.

His only hope is the battery technology, and I've never heard him successfully brag about innovating there. I think he can do this without raising 12 bastard trans children.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild
Women's rights probably align with development by more stability, not only by choosing to raise children when richer (birth control) but also social development because women keep common efforts in good faith

I think families are probably the most common path to success realistic for any society and centralized values, otherwise.

I am not even convinced the top "innovators" need exempted from this. Is Elon Musk even contributing much? He raised lots of bastard failures and builds rockets to mog everyone like Jeff Bezos instead of investing in anything good for anyone else. It's like buying a bigger hat to impress everyone when he's rich and saying he's doing it for humanity.

His only hope is the battery technology, and I've never heard him successfully brag about innovating there. I think he can do this without raising 12 bastard trans children.
Yep. Exactly why I think the govt needs to step in and tax these fuks. Their dumbass projects aren't helping society.
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
Was visiting a kurdish family. The man was giving orders to his wife left & right whilst not getting up from the couch once. I think she knew she would be smacked If she stepped to him. Meanwhile western women have male friends, work part time & complain about their 6 figure Making husband not doing the dishes
There are certainly many countries where women are genuinely oppressed. Lol can you imagine if that Kurdish guy's wife wanted to have guy friends?

With that said, in the west women are not oppressed at all. In fact when it comes to things like career progression they're basically given a free ride due to quotas. It's to the point where if they struggle career wise they're probably mentally defective in some way. Before anyone says it, women having kids is irrelevant - plenty of women take a holiday after giving birth and come back to a promotion.
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And funnily enough most of the feminists campaigning for more rights for women and against oppression of women are talking only about women in the WEST. They don't seem to give a fukk about the treatment of women in other countries. They're almost exclusively focused on their own rights.
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To be fair, a large percentage of modern men are pathetic. Just look at the state of simping on social media.

Even worse are the subhumans who pay for OnlyFans. The 80/20 rule to me seems understandable.
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Yeh, theres still creepy dudes who just follow girls around, but its getting better because girls are getting better at telling these autistic guys to fukk off, they overdo it tho by calling every guy under 6'7" that looks at them a "creep"

Not attentive enough is another one I kinda agree with, some dudes are just fukkin deaf to anything that isn't immediately gratifying to them, think they may be partially retarded, I have friends that refuse to even acknowledge anything someone else says that isn't "sportsball" or "free shiit" because they're just a dick, but like the others, women exaggerate this, no man is gonna listen to everything his fat wife says 10 years into marriage when she talks about the latest reality TV crap or pinterest post

The rest are all gay and fake
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Originally Posted By davik
you can see these gym videos where guys literally grope them or do some crazy **** from a distance. these dudes have legit mental problems and theyre all incels for sure.
Never seen a gym video where some dude just grabbed some sloot lol.

Complaints about people looking are ridiculous though. They want as many people to watch the clips as possible when it's uploaded but they're offended when 1 person in the gym looks?
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Originally Posted By WHChampion
Never seen a gym video where some dude just grabbed some sloot lol.

Complaints about people looking are ridiculous though. They want as many people to watch the clips as possible when it's uploaded but they're offended when 1 person in the gym looks?
Haha i noticed this. They absolutely love makng videos about something that they describe as being a traumatic incident. Living for the clout.
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