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You need to be making atleast 200k a yr to feel middle class (300k+ if HCOL)
07-30-2022, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
you do realize that as you pay off your mortgage your net equity goes up, as does the value of your home.Your comparison is sh*t then. You still pay about the same per month as someone who is renting. So you'd still have literally the same purchasing power. It would only come out in your favor 30 years later once you own the asset and the rentcel had nothing. But for those 30 years you'd have lower class purchasing power right alongside the other dude.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
bottom line is that if you can afford to buy property you should asap, it is the only way to achieve financial stability.
Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
how exactly would someone be able to track a ROM yearly income back to you?4ea we been here 15 years, you know i dont disclose data than can easily track back to me with a quick google search on tech blogs / magazines.
how would it even contribute to the thread?
how would it even contribute to the thread?
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07-30-2022, 02:55 PM
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brb never leaving the 40k trap
07-30-2022, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
because theres a handful of mexicans who fit my profile, like less than 10 in 120 million.you do realize that as you pay off your mortgage your net equity goes up, as does the value of your home.
bottom line is that if you can afford to buy property you should asap, it is the only way to achieve financial stability.
how exactly would someone be able to track a ROM yearly income back to you?
bottom line is that if you can afford to buy property you should asap, it is the only way to achieve financial stability.
how exactly would someone be able to track a ROM yearly income back to you?
Any way, i disagree with u, we are at the top of the bubble, people who arent in should just take the burden of renting for 2 more years and then buy at bubble burst prices.
Tons of people lost their life savings with the 2006 bubble and thats coming from a landlord family
07-30-2022, 03:03 PM
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Depends heavily where you live.
Houston/Dallas you can get a nice 4 bedroom house for $300k = $2k/month including property taxes. Definitley don't need to make $200k for a good lifestyle there.
Americans are lucky compared to Canadian/Australians. There are still affordable medium to large size metros to choose from.
Houston/Dallas you can get a nice 4 bedroom house for $300k = $2k/month including property taxes. Definitley don't need to make $200k for a good lifestyle there.
Americans are lucky compared to Canadian/Australians. There are still affordable medium to large size metros to choose from.
07-30-2022, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
Also there’s not even remotely any truth to this.In my medium cost of living metro, in my neighborhood, a typical home sold for 300-400k about 5 years ago. Now its about a million dollars
Homes sold for $300k 5 years ago are not 1 million dollars now.
You want to know how I know? I’m actually in the market for a home around 1 million. So I’ve been looking at these prices for awhile. Typically what you’ll see in the pricing history is a million dollar home was sold for $500-600k in the early to mid 2000’s. So 15-20 years ago the bulk of these million dollar homes cost double what you seem to think they cost 5 years ago.
I really don’t know why so many miscers have to come in here telling blatant lies 24/7. You’re part of the problem why this forum isn’t as great as it used to be.
Lmao at a 300k house 5 years ago selling for 1 million now. I don’t know what ****ing world you live in buddy but 99.99% of homes costing 300k 5 years ago aren’t selling for a million today. Don’t even bother posting some exception to the rule here. Like I said, I’ve been monitoring million dollar homes for awhile now and virtually none of their pricing history had them selling for 300k in 2017.
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07-30-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Your trying to tell me what I'm seeing in my own neighborhood isn't happeningAlso there’s not even remotely any truth to this.
Homes sold for $300k 5 years ago are not 1 million dollars now.
You want to know how I know? I’m actually in the market for a home around 1 million. So I’ve been looking at these prices for awhile. Typically what you’ll see in the pricing history is a million dollar home was sold for $500-600k in the early to mid 2000’s. So 15-20 years ago the bulk of these million dollar homes cost double what you seem to think they cost 5 years ago.
I really don’t know why so many miscers have to come in here telling blatant lies 24/7. You’re part of the problem why this forum isn’t as great as it used to be.
Lmao at a 300k house 5 years ago selling for 1 million now. I don’t know what ****ing world you live in buddy but 99.99% of homes costing 300k 5 years ago aren’t selling for a million today. Don’t even bother posting some exception to the rule here. Like I said, I’ve been monitoring million dollar homes for awhile now and virtually none of their pricing history had them selling for 300k in 2017.
Dumbass
Homes sold for $300k 5 years ago are not 1 million dollars now.
You want to know how I know? I’m actually in the market for a home around 1 million. So I’ve been looking at these prices for awhile. Typically what you’ll see in the pricing history is a million dollar home was sold for $500-600k in the early to mid 2000’s. So 15-20 years ago the bulk of these million dollar homes cost double what you seem to think they cost 5 years ago.
I really don’t know why so many miscers have to come in here telling blatant lies 24/7. You’re part of the problem why this forum isn’t as great as it used to be.
Lmao at a 300k house 5 years ago selling for 1 million now. I don’t know what ****ing world you live in buddy but 99.99% of homes costing 300k 5 years ago aren’t selling for a million today. Don’t even bother posting some exception to the rule here. Like I said, I’ve been monitoring million dollar homes for awhile now and virtually none of their pricing history had them selling for 300k in 2017.
Dumbass
I'm not going to engage with you with that kind of vitriol
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07-30-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
I see where your rage is coming from. You think I'm one of those hoomers, wishing doom and financial slavery on renters. You've got me wrong, and I hope you can reflect on your own personal issues before you last out like that againYour comparison is sh*t then. You still pay about the same per month as someone who is renting. So you'd still have literally the same purchasing power. It would only come out in your favor 30 years later once you own the asset and the rentcel had nothing. But for those 30 years you'd have lower class purchasing power right alongside the other dude.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
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07-30-2022, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Eh, I think it has less to do with total humans and moreso to do with just reversion to the mean tbh. There's an argument that the fact we're below replacement rates in birth that we'll run into problems down the road. Note that I don't think take that argument as gospel, but the point is there's some logic to encouraging reproduction to a certain extent. Life in America was too good and too easy => people tried came here to get said easy good life => oversaturation and reversion to the mean.I do agree with this. There simply aren't as many resources available for everyone. That's why I've been saying for years we need to implement population control. Just because we can fit more people on this earth doesn't make it ok. The quality of living is inversely related to population growth at this point. The more we add, the worse it will get.
Sure there was a time when the world needed more humans to improve quality of living. That threshold was passed so long ago. It's too bad people will never wake up this to make the tough decision because "passing on muh genetics" is so important to everyone. Most of you are scum. Your genetics aren't worth more than a sack of flaming dogsh*t. Why not contribute something more by abstaining from adding to the population for f*cks sake?
Sure there was a time when the world needed more humans to improve quality of living. That threshold was passed so long ago. It's too bad people will never wake up this to make the tough decision because "passing on muh genetics" is so important to everyone. Most of you are scum. Your genetics aren't worth more than a sack of flaming dogsh*t. Why not contribute something more by abstaining from adding to the population for f*cks sake?
It's similar to how people are worried about salaries in tech decreasing because the high salaries leads to saturation, which leads to increased competition for a smaller slice of the pie than the days of yore. That's a more comparable analogy to the point I'm trying to make than anything about births and whatnot.
07-30-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
I've wanted to move to both for work cause of this very reason.. Dallas and it's suburbs has always seemed like a perfect spot to live cause of the home prices. When I went there to visit recently it was dirty AF, but just gotta find a better neighborhoodDepends heavily where you live.
Houston/Dallas you can get a nice 4 bedroom house for $300k = $2k/month including property taxes. Definitley don't need to make $200k for a good lifestyle there.
Americans are lucky compared to Canadian/Australians. There are still affordable medium to large size metros to choose from.
Houston/Dallas you can get a nice 4 bedroom house for $300k = $2k/month including property taxes. Definitley don't need to make $200k for a good lifestyle there.
Americans are lucky compared to Canadian/Australians. There are still affordable medium to large size metros to choose from.
07-30-2022, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
u fuked that guy upYour comparison is sh*t then. You still pay about the same per month as someone who is renting. So you'd still have literally the same purchasing power. It would only come out in your favor 30 years later once you own the asset and the rentcel had nothing. But for those 30 years you'd have lower class purchasing power right alongside the other dude.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
This is the problem with mortgagecel ph aggots like you. You've truly convinced yourself you're in a better place at this very moment compared to the other dude in your scenario. You really aren't. Not at this moment. You've made a decision to be in a better place 30 years from now.
Think of it as an unrealized capital gain in the stock market (except worse because you have to legit wait the 30 years and can't liquidate it whenever you want). That money isn't yours though. You talk about "muh house was bought for 300k is now a million". Bro do you have a million dollars in your hand right now so you can take a nicer vacation? Buy a more expensive car? Pay your kids tuition without worry? The f*ck you do. It's all tied in your house that you're still making payments on.
What a joke. People like you are truly out of touch with reality when they talk about homeownership.
You've set yourself up for a better future. No question there. But right here and now today.. no... you're equivalent to the rentcel paying that exact same amount each month.
07-30-2022, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
this is objectively false when people in your same economy have net worths in the billions. there is no middle class, its just different spectrums of poor and then the richThis is objectively false. $200K puts you in the top 5% of income easily, especially if we're talking individuals. $200K isn't middle class - it's probably at least lower upper class.
07-30-2022, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
Not sure if srsu fuked that guy up
His entire unhinged rant started off with the assumption that a homeowner doesn’t have any equity until the mortgage is paid off
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