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post 1665384483 08-01-2022, 08:50 PM
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Putting your happiness in other people

Conventional modern advice is to not place your happiness in other people... but this seems contrary to our evolution.

Most of history people lived in tribes or small communities and worked together. They weren't pursuing hobbies or careermaxing or travelling to be happy. There are stories of numerous Europeans colonists who ditched settlements to go live with native tribes.

Why is this advice parroted so much? Because people can be unreliable? Doesn't make it wrong though.

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post 1665384843 08-01-2022, 08:55 PM
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makes me happy seeing you happy fetabrah dfs.

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post 1665384973 08-01-2022, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
in history people lived in tribes because they lacked the modern technology required for self-sufficiency.

in the modern world, we don't need a tribe of people to help us out - everything is provided to us at minimal cost, thanks to the rapid advancement of technology.

this is why modern society has a lot of loners and people forgoing relationships.
The ease of survival in modern society doesn't make it not incongruous with our biology in other ways


Hope the August cut and sobriety goes well, stay hard boyo
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makes me happy seeing you happy fetabrah dfs.

oh and...

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still looking for my tribe of people to be happy srs but your gifs make me happy
post 1665385043 08-01-2022, 08:59 PM
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There's nothing wrong with finding happiness in other people, but that doesn't mean it's an excuse to not seek happiness within yourself either.
post 1665385473 08-01-2022, 09:09 PM
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A lot of people put their happiness in other people and get burned. It might be overwhelming for the receiving partner, or they might just decide to move on. Either way, it’s the definition of a co-dependent personality disorder

On the flip side, many people put up a wall and don’t rely on other people hardly at all. But they often end up miserable while longing for meaningful connection

Few people get it right where they have loving relationships with a healthy degree of independence
post 1665385873 08-01-2022, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
There's nothing wrong with finding happiness in other people, but that doesn't mean it's an excuse to not seek happiness within yourself either.
Valid. Both are important
Originally Posted By Masterchieffer
A lot of people put their happiness in other people and get burned. It might be overwhelming for the receiving partner, or they might just decide to move on. Either way, it’s the definition of a co-dependent personality disorder

On the flip side, many people put up a wall and don’t rely on other people hardly at all. But they often end up miserable while longing for meaningful connection

Few people get it right where they have loving relationships with a healthy degree of independence
Agree with you and guilty too
post 1665386283 08-01-2022, 09:23 PM
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Other people are basically the only thing that makes life worth livings. Why else would people have friends, marry, have kids, a family etc? Why do people buy pets?

It’s horrible being alone, we aren’t equipped to deal with it for the most part.
post 1665386353 08-01-2022, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By IronFeta
The ease of survival in modern society doesn't make it not incongruous with our biology in other ways


Hope the August cut and sobriety goes well, stay hard boyo


still looking for my tribe of people to be happy srs but your gifs make me happy
I saw something about that today- humans living in a style that we aren't really suited for. And he concluded that is why humans need drugs in order to have civilization- so that our basic hunter-gatherer selves can deal with the stress and weirdness of how we are presently living. Drugs included beer, wine, coffee, and sugar, BTW- not just what we call "hard" drugs.

I hope you find your tribe.
Originally Posted By Masterchieffer
A lot of people put their happiness in other people and get burned. It might be overwhelming for the receiving partner, or they might just decide to move on. Either way, it’s the definition of a co-dependent personality disorder

On the flip side, many people put up a wall and don’t rely on other people hardly at all. But they often end up miserable while longing for meaningful connection

Few people get it right where they have loving relationships with a healthy degree of independence
It can be a tough thing to navigate if you didn't have a childhood experience that set you up for success. We tend to either overextend ourselves [co-dependent], or wall ourselves off [independent/loner] or alternate between the two, when what we really have to try for isinterdependence.

co-dependent: I really need you to like me so maybe if I do just the right thing you will

independent/loner: I don't want to get hurt so I will just avoid relationships

I've realized I've been on this ride and I want something better. So guess I haven't reached my final form yet. Trying to find that balance of letting people in while still keeping good boundaries.



Related:

The idea that you have to "love yourself" BEFORE getting into any relationships has been fairly widespread. Also may not be right. I think it was Brene Brown who I heard pushing back on that one, but might have been someone else. Said we grow in relationships, not by avoiding relationships.
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post 1665386713 08-01-2022, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
I saw something about that today- humans living in a style that we aren't really suited for. And he concluded that is why humans need drugs in order to have civilization- so that our basic hunter-gatherer selves can deal with the stress and weirdness of how we are presently living. Drugs included beer, wine, coffee, and sugar, BTW- not just what we call "hard" drugs.

I hope you find your tribe.



It can be a tough thing to navigate if you didn't have a childhood experience that set you up for success. We tend to either overextend ourselves [co-dependent], or wall ourselves off [independent/loner] or alternate between the two, when what we really have to try for isinterdependence.
fuark I oscillate hard between those two sets.

and makes sense humans need all that stuff to cope. Although I'm not sure about sugar, that's more survival imo. Thx
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post 1665387013 08-01-2022, 09:40 PM
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Putting your “happiness” inside of other people, is that what you kids are calling it these days?
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