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post 1665596693 08-05-2022, 10:34 AM
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Not an Alex Jones fan but he did nothing legally wrong. Ethically sure, but this is stupid.
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post 1665596713 08-05-2022, 10:34 AM
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I'm sure there are laws when it comes to defamation/slander in the UK for too especially notable figures/media outlets that do it.
post 1665599513 08-05-2022, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
read the first amendment idiot

It protects free speech from infringement by government



No it’s the judiciary

See, now, the consequence of your free speech

Is that you’ve exposed yourself as a retard

Whoops
Wait, you think our court system is a private company? Holy **** lol.
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post 1665600383 08-05-2022, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
yes, they send people to jail all the time for the slightest of anti-semitic memes

the difference is UK never claimed to have freedom of speech, thats supposedly an American thing
No, we don’t

Tell me ONE thing you sincerely want to say but think you can’t in the uk, srs

I’ve asked you all several times and you’ve ALL always pussed out
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post 1665601143 08-05-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
No, we don’t

Tell me ONE thing you sincerely want to say but think you can’t in the uk, srs

I’ve asked you all several times and you’ve ALL always pussed out
ok heres one from 3 days ago, guy reposted a meme of a swastika made with the lgbtq flag, lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...eo/ar-AA10eIPJ
post 1665602413 08-05-2022, 12:24 PM
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ITT F@gsbolton showing his toxic liberalism and ignorance to American law.

Mind your own f*cked up country.
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post 1665602473 08-05-2022, 12:26 PM
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post 1665602773 08-05-2022, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Idiot

It’s called freedom of speech

Not freedom from consequences

Did the government intervene? No.
Originally Posted By MFarrar74⏩
actually the government did intervene, that's what the court is, the government. He was tried by the government for speaking and his right to free speech was violated when they fined him.
this "freedom of speech not of consequences" is the biggest cope in the world. You have ALWAYS had the right to say whatever you want WITH consequences. They would just punish you for it in the past. hanging, beheading, prison, fines its all punishment for speech. The entire point of "free speech" is that you wont be punished for your opinion.
The trial was only able to proceed because Alex Jones let it. He had every opportunity when the lawsuits came up in the discovery process to prove his words / actions fell under those protected by 1A, and that those words / actions did not fall under defamation. Defamation is clearly defined in the 1A, and is not protected. There is tons of court law giving clear definition of this distinction.

He ignored the discovery process completely because he knew he was guilty, and a moron. His legal team is also a bunch of morons who GAVE THE PLANTIFFS LEGAL TEAM TWO YEARS OF TEXT MESSAGES that proved Jones was lying.
Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
read the first amendment idiot

It protects free speech from infringement by government



No it’s the judiciary

See, now, the consequence of your free speech

Is that you’ve exposed yourself as a retard

Whoops
Originally Posted By MFarrar74⏩
The third branch of government is the Judicial branch.... whos the retard?
Lol, correct.
Originally Posted By Ten_Hearts⏩
He was sued by the family not the government. The issue centered around harassment the family received as a result of his reporting.
Originally Posted By SoulBlazer470⏩
Not an Alex Jones fan but he did nothing legally wrong. Ethically sure, but this is stupid.
Highly suggest folks actually READ the 1A that they like to trumpet in defense of these reckless idiots, and actually get some comprehension as to what the 1A does / does not cover. It clearly does not protect defamation, of which Jones is overwhelmingly guilty of.
post 1665606553 08-05-2022, 01:31 PM
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LOL at everyone arguing over what the laws are. When you have this for a judge, you are Guilty by default. Jones didn't stand a chance.



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post 1665606833 08-05-2022, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
ok heres one from 3 days ago, guy reposted a meme of a swastika made with the lgbtq flag, lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...eo/ar-AA10eIPJ
To be clear

You WANT to post a meme of a swaztika lgbt flag? Ok
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post 1665612363 08-05-2022, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
ok heres one from 3 days ago, guy reposted a meme of a swastika made with the lgbtq flag, lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...eo/ar-AA10eIPJ
so having read the article

he was arrested for obstruction. Not for anything he retweeted. He wasnt jailed, fined, or anything else.

pillock.
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post 1665612613 08-05-2022, 03:34 PM
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Don’t follow or watch Alex Jones but if I were him, I wouldn’t pay a penny.
post 1665613413 08-05-2022, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Idiot

It’s called freedom of speech

Not freedom from consequences

Did the government intervene? No.
Is the judge that handed down the “consequences” a member of the state or federal government?

How can then the government either enforce or or dictate those consequences?

Not to mention that these parents are public figures. Should they not be held in the same regard as Nick Sandmann?

Explain the difference between Alex Jones claiming sandy hook was a hoax and Nick Sandmanns case being dismissed by a judge on the grounds of free speech.

Article in reference:
https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...s/65384577007/


The consequences of dismissal of rules for one group while applying them to others will be detrimental to this country and it’s citizens.

That’s the problem here.
There is no they…
post 1665613883 08-05-2022, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
Is the judge that handed down the “consequences” a member of the state or federal government?

How can then the government either enforce or or dictate those consequences?

Not to mention that these parents are public figures. Should they not be held in the same regard as Nick Sandmann?

Explain the difference between Alex Jones claiming sandy hook was a hoax and Nick Sandmanns case being dismissed by a judge on the grounds of free speech.

Article in reference:
https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...s/65384577007/


The consequences of dismissal of rules for one group while applying them to others will be detrimental to this country and it’s citizens.

That’s the problem here.
From the articles I went through it looked like it was a jury that decided and awarded the compensatory damages.
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post 1665615013 08-05-2022, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
Highly suggest folks actually READ the 1A that they like to trumpet in defense of these reckless idiots, and actually get some comprehension as to what the 1A does / does not cover. It clearly does not protect defamation, of which Jones is overwhelmingly guilty of.
Agreed, people should educate themselves more. Me included.

This is a great video to help with that. Skip to 6:00 for defamation.



https://youtu.be/ntnmNhvnjzY



My argument is, Nicholas Sandmann. Which is essentially the same thing. Yet, the link I posted above Nicks case was dismissed.
There is no they…
post 1665616263 08-05-2022, 05:10 PM
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post 1665617163 08-05-2022, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By MFarrar74⏩
The third branch of government is the Judicial branch.... whos the retard?
Do I need to explain the concept of a independent judiciary to an American?

It’s one of the few useful things the US has contributed to the world.

Anyway to answer your question… you. you’re the retard. Lmao
post 1665617753 08-05-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
Agreed, people should educate themselves more. Me included.

This is a great video to help with that. Skip to 6:00 for defamation.



https://youtu.be/ntnmNhvnjzY



My argument is, Nicholas Sandmann. Which is essentially the same thing. Yet, the link I posted above Nicks case was dismissed.
Naw man, its not the same thing, and I too think Sandmann was portrayed wrongly.

Couple key points:
1. The news orgs actually participated in their cases, and in the discovery process. That is how they could prove and justify covering the story from the Native American's side. Alex Jones did not participate in the discovery process at all, and therefore the Judge ruled against him by default, and then sent the case to a jury of his peers to award damages based off defamation.

2. Alex Jones did not try to defend himself in the discovery process because he knew there was a bunch of evidence proving he knowingly and continually pushed the Sandy Hook Hoax false narrative. Its not reporting / journalism at that point.
post 1665618473 08-05-2022, 05:50 PM
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America is not a free country. It could be worse though. I didn't have to wear a mask or get jabbed, and still lived a completely normal life the past two years AND I live in one of the most politically corrupt/liberal states in America.
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