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post 1667096203 08-31-2022, 05:59 PM
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I think problem with whore of women


I think with whore women you sex and love to them

and take them to trip and date

and lot of time with women


but women not have impact of this


women can sex other men quickly after you or cheat you


i think this problem when have whore girlfriend

you nothing to her even if do many thing with her
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Originally Posted By OrbOddLaw
99% of the time people rag on females who are anything, but chaste, virgins. You guys suffer from the Virgin Whore Complex and are obsessed with cookie cutter tropes of women that are outdated.
do you think masculinity is outdated? just curious. cause i know you're not directly thinking about that but i think this is one of the implications from what you're talking about

do you know testosterone has been dropping quite a lot for a few generations? this isn't just tangential talk

what would you say if men's testicles shrank (also noted) and continued to do so? inb4 you don't think they're linked. they are
Originally Posted By Ken-O
So you agree or disagree with what “I’m preaching”?

Personally linking me or not is irrelevant, wise men should know better than attacking the person instead of their argument.
im agreeing with you a lot in the thread. i just don't think its worth the effort. guys like this pride are centered around women. they also think they're "different" by allowing women to do whatever they want to do. when they simply have an ego like everybody else. they're in too deep
post 1667096473 08-31-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
So you agree or disagree with what “I’m preaching”?

Personally linking me or not is irrelevant, wise men should know better than attacking the person instead of their argument.
Of course I agree that I want a nice and clean girl - but doesn't that seems like an 'unsustainable business model' in your eyes?
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post 1667096553 08-31-2022, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By OrbOddLaw
To the bolded so because two people politely dissent with your take the misc is suddenly an endorser of female cheating and female thottery?

99% of the time people rag on females who are anything, but chaste, virgins. You guys suffer from the Virgin Whore Complex and are obsessed with cookie cutter tropes of women that are outdated.

What's stopping you from finding a nice Mormon or Amish woman then?
Two people? Multiple people have called the miscers explaining why female promiscuity is a negative thing as being an insecure loser.

Point out once where I stated I am obsessed with virignity in a female? Also, calling something outdated does not make it incorrect. If it was not normal to fuk a pig in 1900, but in 2022 it was normal to fuk a pig, does that mean the sentiment against that in 1900 was just outdated nonsense?

I am not mormon nor amish. I am on the path of converting to Orthodoxy. I used to laugh at the religious and call them idiots. It took a world and society this broken for me to come to the truth and turn to Orthodoxy. If someone told me I would ever do that even 5 years ago I would laugh in their face.

This world is sick. Not with covid. Our world is crumbling from the loss of foundational values, morals and principles. The further we stray from the things the further society crumbles. ALL of history shows this. ALL of it. Every great society crumbled by the reduction of its values and a promotion of the sins.

Man is corruptible. I am not here to act like I'm better than people or women for sinning, as I sin and have as well. I am not judging. What I am doing is showing that a society that doesn't understand that a female with high partner counts is not a healthy one. The further we are from the baseline of good, the closer we are to evil.

I don't want to be anywhere near it.
post 1667096673 08-31-2022, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
This.

My entire point is this. All men and women sin. Man is corruptible. However, the closer you live towards biblical foundations, the better society is. I do not expect to ever have a society to be perfect, nor completely full of virgin women.

My point is that women should not act like men sexually. As Ken-O has pointed out as well, men and women are different, treated differently, and have different values. Women are supposed to have sex with one man so the father is known to the children. Basic natural paternity. There can be value added if a man has sex with 20 women and gets 20 women pregnant. The father is known, life is created, etc. A female having sex with 20 men is valueless. She can only get pregnant to one man.

Clevland, you're viewing this from a current perspective of this is okay. Sex is pleasurable because we are meant to procreate. It is not there just for enjoyment despite. If it was, then a female wouldn't be so spiritually and mentally broken by 40 with 50 sex partners.

The closer society keeps it's values and morals, the better it will be overall. I'd much prefer a female in the 1920s that had sinful sex with 2 men before marriage and kids than a modern women who has had 30 without any want to have kids.

If you don't see a difference in a women sleeping with 30 guys and 2, then your world perspective is completely broken.
Dude, even the Catholic church teaches that married couples should have sex for enjoyment and not solely procreation. We are not the only species that has sex for pleasure either.

I don't see sex as a sin nor immoral.

But by your own admission, men are "supposed" to have multiple partners, but everytime he does, he is devaluing that woman for other men, per your standards.

That's laughable and unsustainable as you will run out of high value women to commit to.

But no, I know people that waited till marriage and I know people with high numbers of partners and I don't think it impacts their value nor their ability to be a great partner.
post 1667096923 08-31-2022, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By CoolKnees
They actually didn't. Dating is a modern day concept, within the last 100 years. In the old days women were all in arranged marriage.
go read The Great Gatsby
post 1667096973 08-31-2022, 06:17 PM
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wow bro are you related to noam chomsky, youre so insightful
post 1667097033 08-31-2022, 06:18 PM
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Now look at the people who accept and date/marry single moms
Normalizing that is insane and we are at that in 2022
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post 1667097123 08-31-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
No, its because promiscuity is disgusting in women. Its because many men in the room have seen my woman naked and she made an emotional bond with every single one of them, making your own bond less meaningful and strong.

And thats the point, you dont have to choose a sloot. If you are a quality man, you can pick someone that hasnt banged multiple men in the room. Most men if given the chance would pick a virgin rather than someone that has been with 5 guys, let alone 50 like modern women. Its just how we are wired.

Women 100% get turned off by a virgin especially in their 20s. A virgin man, if it isnt because of personal choice, is a virgin because women simply dont like him. This fact makes other women feel turned off by him even if before knowing this fact they were somewhat attracted.

Men slut shame sure, but so do women. Slut shaming was the basis for the traditional society that had the highest % of success in marriages, relationships, productivity, general happiness, etc.

A woman can get pregnant with any sexual encounter, pregnancy will change her life completely. A woman that lets multiple men fuk her is a woman that is showing low levels of intelligence and self awareness, and shows she cant pick men or has other issues that most likely wont dissapear any time soon.
if you think your emotional bond is weaker because she slept with other guys why are you even with her in the first place?

and why does it take being in the same room with them for you to feel bad about.

That's like textbook insecurity.

I think you're wrong about most men picking virgins. Myself and most guys i know started saying no to virgins in our early 20s. Sex is too important to leave to chance. if you're wired to believe that you're brainwashed or insecure or both.

If getting a woman pregnant doesn't change the father forever, that guy is a piece of chit in my eyes. You take precautions and do it though cause sex is worth it and the same goes for women.
post 1667097263 08-31-2022, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
if you think your emotional bond is weaker because she slept with other guys why are you even with her in the first place?

and why does it take being in the same room with them for you to feel bad about.

That's like textbook insecurity.

I think you're wrong about most men picking virgins. Myself and most guys i know started saying no to virgins in our early 20s. Sex is too important to leave to chance. if you're wired to believe that you're brainwashed or insecure or both.

If getting a woman pregnant doesn't change the father forever, that guy is a piece of chit in my eyes. You take precautions and do it though cause sex is worth it and the same goes for women.
you like whore of girlfriend?
post 1667097403 08-31-2022, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Dude, even the Catholic church teaches that married couples should have sex for enjoyment and not solely procreation. We are not the only species that has sex for pleasure either.

I don't see sex as a sin nor immoral.

But by your own admission, men are "supposed" to have multiple partners, but everytime he does, he is devaluing that woman for other men, per your standards.

That's laughable and unsustainable as you will run out of high value women to commit to.

But no, I know people that waited till marriage and I know people with high numbers of partners and I don't think it impacts their value nor their ability to be a great partner.
I never said a man should have multiple partners. I also never said that you shouldn't have sex for enjoyment, but that is not the ultimate purpose of sex. It is enjoyable to have sex because the end purpose is procreation. Not just sterile sex forever and nothing to show for it. Again, Catholics say in MARRIAGE.

And being a great partner depends entirely on the purpose of the partnership. If people want to partner up and fukk their whole life without kids, then good on them. But if you think the THE NORM of society should be that it is okay for women to have high partner counts before marriage and that it should be promoted behavior, then you're fukked in the head. Not only does all religious texts back this is, but science backs it up.

As stated before, men and women are different. Men having a ton of partners is completely different than woman. That does not mean it should be the norm either, but it is no where near as bad as for women. I do not have a high partner count. I have never cheated in a relationship, and I have refused, more times than I can count, sex offered from married women or women that are engaged or in relationships. So don't think I'm just preaching here, I'm actively trying to live what I'm saying. Otherwise what type of man would I be? At that some token, I expect my eventual wife to have lived in close relationship to those values and ideals. I'm not expecting perfection or anything. But to ask for a female to wed not to have a large number of dicks running through her vagina should be one of the easiest and most basic requirements of any man that plans to marry for love in honor of God and to have children.
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Correct. But very few men are going to achieve this so they have to cope.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
I never said a man should have multiple partners. I also never said that you shouldn't have sex for enjoyment, but that is not the ultimate purpose of sex. It is enjoyable to have sex because the end purpose is procreation. Not just sterile sex forever and nothing to show for it. Again, Catholics say in MARRIAGE.

And being a great partner depends entirely on the purpose of the partnership. If people want to partner up and fukk their whole life without kids, then good on them. But if you think the THE NORM of society should be that it is okay for women to have high partner counts before marriage and that it should be promoted behavior, then you're fukked in the head. Not only does all religious texts back this is, but science backs it up.

As stated before, men and women are different. Men having a ton of partners is completely different than woman. That does not mean it should be the norm either, but it is no where near as bad as for women. I do not have a high partner count. I have never cheated in a relationship, and I have refused, more times than I can count, sex offered from married women or women that are engaged or in relationships. So don't think I'm just preaching here, I'm actively trying to live what I'm saying. Otherwise what type of man would I be? At that some token, I expect my eventual wife to have lived in close relationship to those values and ideals. I'm not expecting perfection or anything. But to ask for a female to wed not to have a large number of dicks running through her vagina should be one of the easiest and most basic requirements of any man that plans to marry for love in honor of God and to have children.
Well I disagree that the end purpose of sex is procreation. Procreation is a side benefit of sex.

I don't understand why you think a high partner count is a negative for anyone. If you don't like that in your partner, fine. But I don't believe society would be better off if we went back to lying about women having sex with multiple partners before marriage.

I hate to tell you this, but there's no penis out there so special that it fundamentally changes who a woman is because it touched her.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Well I disagree that the end purpose of sex is procreation. Procreation is a side benefit of sex.

I don't understand why you think a high partner count is a negative for anyone. If you don't like that in your partner, fine. But I don't believe society would be better off if we went back to lying about women having sex with multiple partners before marriage.

I hate to tell you this, but there's no penis out there so special that it fundamentally changes who a woman is because it touched her.
I think not true

i think you never tlak or sex with women maybe virgin


women who have sex lot of men have mental problem and have many experience which change brain
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The first time I had sex was with a virgin
Married a virgin

Had quit a bit of sex in between the two...the emotional baggage women, and often men carry with them from multiple sexual partners people never really understand.

Having sex with someone is like gluing two pieces of paper together and once that relationship is broken, you try to tear those pieces of paper apart, but no matter how hard you try, some of the paper is stuck to the other..that by the time most people settle down and marry, they are just shredded individuals that are unable to give themselves wholly (Holy) to their spouse. Hence we see the same people getting married/divorced over and over again. I know so many older and Christian couples that have been happily married for 20, 30, 50, yrs plus while my body, my right Karen at the bar is on her 4th marriage, upping the divorce stats.
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool
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it's better to suck dink than to be killed

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I'm not buying the 'insecure' angle, either. More like having self respect by not wifing up used merchandise like a cuckold chump.
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Sloots gonna sloot
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
no more disgusting than a guy who's been with 26 women.

and if you sincerely think that previous generations women didn't have multiple sex partners before marriage, you're living in denial
From a biological standpoint, this is all wrong:

1) our subconscious brain thinks sex = making a baby. A man who’s impregnated and spread his seeds to 26 other women is not nearly the same as a woman who’s carried the babies of 26 different men.

Everything that you’re attracted to is driven by our biological impulse at a subconscious level. The glow which signals fertility, hip to waist ratio, symmetry etc.

2) women release pair bonding hormones when they sleep with someone. The more men they sleep with, the less effective it is and less she’s able to bond with that partner. If a woman has more than 5 sexual partners, her chances of a happy marriage after 10 years drops from 80% to 20%.

You’re a classic example of someone coping so hard you don’t realise you’ve been brainwashed into cope and now openly cucking yourself.
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good luck finding a virgin female over age 16 in 2022
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Good luck finding an attractive woman that is normal socially that hasn't fawked. LoL@ how the misc has become a gathering place for a buncha insecure losers.
Well I did premise my post with the fact that we have to be realistic but we can acknowledge that accepting it is COPE.

It’s like we all want to be billionaires but the majority of men have to cope with working for menial salary and basically be invisible. Either you cope or your rope.
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Originally Posted By Tanerian
Lmao at the insecure ******* tears ITT.

Why isn't it okay when it's with your mates? that's called Insecurity. Deep down your scared she enjoyed your boys more than you. The fact that you know them, and know they all secretly harbor thoughts at being the best lay she's ever had, makes it harder for you to handle. That's all it is at every level. You need your ego stroked, and when you're the first and only, you *know* you're the best she's ever had. If it's your mates, it creates an atmosphere of competition. It isn't healthy for your relationship with them, or her.

When it's some random guy you'll never meet or be around? The actual cope is giving a fuk and acting like it's your morals or standards, when really it's just you being an insecure twat.

It's all just your ego and insecurities fuking with you.

It's cope when you sub 5 body count dipchits are here dogging on guys with 30++ bodycounts living their best life while you're here acting like you're better than them or some chit 'cause you only stan for virgins because you have zero confidence and are insecure af.
So you’re ok with your mates smashing your girl? Strong cuck.

Good luck at the wedding, as you look to your right and see your groomsmen knowing they all came on her face and she swallowed that chit. I’m sure it won’t bother you one but cos you’re so progressive lmao.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Women lose the ability to pair bond more and more with each sex partner they have. This is a fact, studies support this, look it up. It isnt about morality or insecurity, no men likes a woman that has been the towns slut, insecure or not. Im not even going to get into the STDs/abortions/emotional baggage argument which would be a homerun in this debate, simply biologically, how we are wired, men dont like promiscuous women just as women dont like loser men. Its how we are wired.



Then i would say you are delusional. If you think 25 year old women in the 1920s and a 25 year old women in 2022 have roughly the same average number of men they have had sex with, separated by just 3, i dont know what else to say to you.


Id argue the average sex partners for modern women at age 25, vs the average number of sex partners for women in the 1920s by age 25, would have a differential of around 20-30 in average.
This person is retarded. For one women were marrying a lot earlier. Second you would be an outcast if you were a whore, you’d be shunned by society. Third, there wasn’t social media and dating apps. Fourth, majority of women weren’t at uni or workplace.

All those things combine to make up for 98% of sexual interactions.

Yet somehow women on average in 1920s had as much sex as women today? Strong everything except logic.

In fact, quick research shows that even in hippy sexually liberated 70s, 43% of women only had 1 pre-marital sex. Compare that to today which would probably be less than 5%.

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Originally Posted By plsmire
This person is retarded. For one women were marrying a lot earlier. Second you would be an outcast if you were a whore, you’d be shunned by society. Third, there wasn’t social media and dating apps. Fourth, majority of women weren’t at uni or workplace.

All those things combine to make up for 98% of sexual interactions.

Yet somehow women on average in 1920s had as much sex as women today? Strong everything except logic.
Please - people used to marry actual prostitutes back then and in the 1800s. You're far exaggerating the average woman's sexual partners today and understating those of women in previous generations. Go read books written in the 1920s and you will find plenty examples of women having numerous sexual partners before marriage.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Dude, even the Catholic church teaches that married couples should have sex for enjoyment and not solely procreation. We are not the only species that has sex for pleasure either.

I don't see sex as a sin nor immoral.

But by your own admission, men are "supposed" to have multiple partners, but everytime he does, he is devaluing that woman for other men, per your standards.

That's laughable and unsustainable as you will run out of high value women to commit to.

But no, I know people that waited till marriage and I know people with high numbers of partners and I don't think it impacts their value nor their ability to be a great partner.
You think but the data says otherwise. As women have become more sexually liberated, unhappy marriages and divorce rates have skyrocketed - and there is a very strong correlation between countries that our sexually liberated and divorce rates vs countries with traditional values.

The stat that shows womens chances of a happy marriage drops from 80% to 20% after 5 partners proves the wisdom of of the people who called our whores for what they are.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Please - people used to marry actual prostitutes back then and in the 1800s. You're far exaggerating the average woman's sexual partners today and understating those of women in previous generations. Go read books written in the 1920s and you will find plenty examples of women having numerous sexual partners before marriage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_woman

"Fallen woman" is an archaic term which was used to describe a woman who has "lost her innocence", and fallen from the grace of God. In 19th-century Britain especially, the meaning came to be closely associated with the loss or surrender of a woman's chastity[2] and with female promiscuity. Its use was an expression of the belief that to be socially and morally acceptable, a woman's sexuality and experience should be entirely restricted to marriage,and that she should also be under the supervision and care of an authoritative man. Used when society offered few employment opportunities for women in times of crisis or hardship, the term was often more specifically associated with prostitution, which was regarded as both cause and effect of a woman being "fallen".

It was not okay to Marry prostitutes or be a prostitute or have sex outside of marriage until very recently.

Are you Jewish?
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Originally Posted By milfmanmilk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_woman

"Fallen woman" is an archaic term which was used to describe a woman who has "lost her innocence", and fallen from the grace of God. In 19th-century Britain especially, the meaning came to be closely associated with the loss or surrender of a woman's chastity[2] and with female promiscuity. Its use was an expression of the belief that to be socially and morally acceptable, a woman's sexuality and experience should be entirely restricted to marriage,and that she should also be under the supervision and care of an authoritative man. Used when society offered few employment opportunities for women in times of crisis or hardship, the term was often more specifically associated with prostitution, which was regarded as both cause and effect of a woman being "fallen".

It was not okay to Marry prostitutes or be a prostitute or have sex outside of marriage until very recently.

Are you Jewish?
I was ok to be a prostitute and marry them in the 1800s in America.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Well I disagree that the end purpose of sex is procreation. Procreation is a side benefit of sex.

I don't understand why you think a high partner count is a negative for anyone. If you don't like that in your partner, fine. But I don't believe society would be better off if we went back to lying about women having sex with multiple partners before marriage.

I hate to tell you this, but there's no penis out there so special that it fundamentally changes who a woman is because it touched her.
You have to be retarded to believe this.

The benefit of sex is procreation?

Lmao. Millions of years of evolution taught us to reproduce. That is the very purpose of life. Sex is the process to make that happen. Thus making it literally the purpose of sex.

The fact that sex is enjoyable is just evolutions way of incentivising the sexual process in order to motivate us to have sex.

What would be the purpose of sex or pleasurable sex from a evolutionary and biological standpoint in your head if not reproduction?
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