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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667603913 09-09-2022, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
yes
do they teach different in navy seal school?
Dunno...I assume those guys are more interested in physicality than tech.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
But, like we found out in Vietnam and elsewhere, the stronger country doesnt always "win." That is the wildcard.
We won nearly every battle in Vietnam. May have lost some small fire team type battles. We lost politically. Repeat in Afghanistan. Vatnik Crew will sperg and say goat farmers defeated the US military. Lol. Nope. We just left.

Russia sure as fuk ain't gonna take these crazy Ukranians.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
fair point, we are giving them weapons to make them competitive within the scope of the battlefield.The US has MUCH more that we wont give them out of concern it will expand the scope of the war
ya that and it would take way too long to train ukraine on a lot of american tech for it to be viable, plus i dont think the US military is too keen on just handing out f22 and f35 fighters lmao... especially to a country like ukraine, you guys barely sell us that **** and we're your neighbour.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
ya that and it would take way too long to train ukraine on a lot of american tech for it to be viable, plus i dont think the US military is too keen on just handing out f22 and f35 fighters lmao... especially to a country like ukraine, you guys barely sell us that **** and we're your neighbour.
We don't sell anyone the F22. Granted we can't make them anymore but it's been policy since Day 1.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
We won nearly every battle in Vietnam. May have lost some small fire team type battles. We lost politically.

Russia sure as fuk ain't gonna take these crazy Ukranians.
again from wiki
In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs (3,744 planes,[3] 5,607 helicopters[2] and 578 UAVs[1] ).
Everyone wants to talk tough but trust me we don't want to go back into that kind of war
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
again from wiki



Everyone wants to talk tough but trust me we don't want to go back into that kind of war
Post their losses.

....and yes I agree....**** those wars. Either nuke em from orbit or don't engage.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
We won nearly every battle in Vietnam. May have lost some small fire team type battles. We lost politically. Repeat in Afghanistan. Vatnik Crew will sperg and say goat farmers defeated the US military. Lol. Nope. We just left.

Russia sure as fuk ain't gonna take these crazy Ukranians.
the vietnam war wasnt "winnable". you would have had to invade all of south east asia and throw the geneva conventions in the trash to win the vietnam war.

in total 58,000 US troops died in all ~20 years of conflict. 850,000 VC died. it was never really an issue of the US losing battles, it was just you could never really kill all of them.
Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
We don't sell anyone the F22. Granted we can't make them anymore but it's been policy since Day 1.
why is that? whats so special about the f22 compared to the f35
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I have nothing but respect for young Ukrainian men who only 8 months ago were working in the IT department of some tech company in Kiev, and then took rifle and went to the front to face certain death. Cant imagine the horro of that.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
why is that? whats so special about the f22 compared to the f35
F22 is the most advanced air superiority fighter ever conceived by man and remains so. Exportability was never an option. It has no equal and if it ever does our 6th Gen will be flying. The US cannot be caught in this space unless we just go under.

F35 was conceived with exportability from day 1. It is not a competitor to F22. It isnt an air superiority fighter. F35 is a combined arms Swiss army knife. It's like a quarterback for the non stealth 'missile trucks' in the rear....F15EX etc. It's a rad plane. Anyone who flies one will tell you so. Internet trolls spread propaganda about it that is all untrue.
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This F22 is an airplane Lockheed designed in the late 80s. After a contract fight with the YF23...another fantastic airplane in 1990, the first production combat version flew in 1997. Has been the undisputed king of the skies ever since. It's now 2022. Think the US has something better we don't know about?

This specific plane is attached to Alaska. It will assfuk any Russian bomber or other that enters US airspace. Russia has no way to deal with this airplane.



I'm sure Vatnik Crew will say it's all CG like the moon landings. Weird how Russia and China can't make these videos...since they're all CG....


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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
This F22 is an airplane Lockheed designed in the late 80s. First flew in 1997. Has been the undisputed king of the skies ever since. It's now 2022. Think the US has something better we don't know about?

This specific plane is attached to Alaska. It will assfuk any Russian bomber or other that enters US airspace. Russia has no way to deal with this airplane.



I'm sure Vatnik Crew will say it's all CG like the moon landings. Weird how Russia and China can't make these videos...since they're all CG....


Yea and Russian women have bigger tits. Neither matters when nuclear weapons are on the fking table.
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun⏩
Yea and Russian women have bigger tits. Neither matters when nuclear weapons are on the fking table.
They're not on the table.

...and our Latina and Black women have bigger tits.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
They're not on the table.

...and our Latina and Black women have bigger tits.
See this is the problem with liberalism. "Our system and rules based order will keep states from doing x". That part is good. But then they go, "Since they can't do x, we can just go do y!" No. No. No No NO! That is not how it works. They can always reneg on your "rules based order". They can leave the system. They can use their weapons even at cost to themselves. This is exactly the problem. Everyone is like hurr durr Ukraine should get to decide for itself. Muh sovereignty. But they aren't considering that Russia's power matters. The whole situation undermines security.

This is exactly like someone saying banning guns will prevent shootings. It may reduce them. But it will not prevent them. Nukes are always on the table.

It may be legal for you to run up to a gang of bloods and yell the n word at them. Are you going to do it? It isn't legal for them to shoot you. Will that stop them? Maybe it was a bad idea to do this...
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun⏩
See this is the problem with liberalism. "Our system and rules based order will keep states from doing x". That part is good. But then they go, "Since they can't do x, we can just go do y!" No. No. No No NO! That is not how it works. They can always reneg on your "rules based order". They can leave the system. They can use their weapons even at cost to themselves. This is exactly the problem. Everyone is like hurr durr Ukraine should get to decide for itself. Muh sovereignty. But they aren't considering that Russia's power matters. The whole situation undermines security.

This is exactly like someone saying banning guns will prevent shootings. It may reduce them. But it will not prevent them. Nukes are always on the table.

It may be legal for you to run up to a gang of bloods and yell the n word at them. Are you going to do it? It isn't legal for them to shoot you. Will that stop them? Maybe it was a bad idea to do this...
Do tell me how nukes are on the table but mass mobilization of Russia's entire military to quickly end this war isn't?
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun⏩
See this is the problem with liberalism. "Our system and rules based order will keep states from doing x". That part is good. But then they go, "Since they can't do x, we can just go do y!" No. No. No No NO! That is not how it works. They can always reneg on your "rules based order". They can leave the system. They can use their weapons even at cost to themselves. This is exactly the problem. Everyone is like hurr durr Ukraine should get to decide for itself. Muh sovereignty. But they aren't considering that Russia's power matters. The whole situation undermines security.

This is exactly like someone saying banning guns will prevent shootings. It may reduce them. But it will not prevent them. Nukes are always on the table.

It may be legal for you to run up to a gang of bloods and yell the n word at them. Are you going to do it? It isn't legal for them to shoot you. Will that stop them? Maybe it was a bad idea to do this...
No comment on the tits?
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Do tell me how nukes are on the table but mass mobilization of Russia's entire military to quickly end this war isn't?
That is also on the table.
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No comment on the tits?
Your comment is patently false. Russia has the biggest tits worldwide average bro. I mean some Russian women are fukkin ridiculous natty.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Do tell me how nukes are on the table but mass mobilization of Russia's entire military to quickly end this war isn't?
Why dont you actually read my posts?

Russia will likely mobilize after the conditions of the next step. Russia is highly probable to fire a low yield nuke, probably hypersonic should their operation actually be outcome effected. At who or what remains to be determined. Something you're beginning to see flirted with here in this present time since NATO equipment got Ukraine on 1/25th of the battlefield in a less negative direction than when starting. It could grow into success which is dangerous.

Russia signed up for a regional war with known variable. Russia has a written doctrine that we have no reason to doubt, especially after removing nearly all incentives and all but meeting them on the battlefield.

Next is to drop a legal yeild nuke and while everyone stands around like daddy hit mommy, Russia/Allies & NATO mobilize for WW3.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Why dont you actually read my posts?

Russia will likely mobilize after the conditions of the next step. Russia is highly probable to fire a low yield nuke, probably hypersonic should their operation actually be outcome effected. At who or what remains to be determined. Something you're beginning to see flirted with here in this present time since NATO equipment got Ukraine on 1/25th of the battlefield in a less negative direction than when starting. It could grow into success which is dangerous.

Russia signed up for a regional war with known variable. Russia has a written doctrine that we have no reason to doubt, especially after removing nearly all incentives and all but meeting them on the battlefield.

Next is to drop a legal yeild nuke and while everyone stands around like daddy hit mommy, Russia/Allies & NATO mobilize for WW3.
No. Russia would have done it by now. Poots is stuck with what he has with no way to change the end game.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
No. Russia would have done it by now. Poots is stuck with what he has with no way to change the end game.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
No. Russia would have done it by now. Poots is stuck with what he has with no way to change the end game.
I have no doubt you believe that.

So you're saying with a media blackout on one side. An embedded independent media on the other side reporting geolocation and producing footage of thousands upon thousands of Ukrainian deaths the understanding you have is

"I have a whole ass army but am being defeated because I will only use 10% of it due to invisible and undefeatable limitations increasing its size is impossible."

Russia can have an additional 700k there in a month and additional million there to that two weeks later.

So what makes sense? The force is effective and scalable to a specific mission or they're just being defeated and shrugging off the L.

Some of you lack the most basic common sense.
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The confusion of war.

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"We cannot exclude that people come with aim of provoking a social revolt, violence, make propaganda”





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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I have no doubt you believe that.

So you're saying with a media blackout on one side. An embedded independent media on the other side reporting geolocation and producing footage of thousands upon thousands of Ukrainian deaths the understanding you have is

"I have a whole ass army but am being defeated because I will only use 10% of it due to invisible and undefeatable limitations increasing its size is impossible."

Russia can have an additional 700k there in a month and additional million there to that two weeks later.

So what makes sense? The force is effective and scalable to a specific mission or they're just being defeated and shrugging off the L.

Some of you lack the most basic common sense.
Are you under the impression he wouldn't have munity in the entire Country if he mobilized his military? And you talk about lacking common sense, lol.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩


The confusion of war.

RIP
Dude is speaking Russian, are you saying this was a RU friendly fire incident?
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩


The confusion of war.

RIP
Brutal, he was asking them where their armbands were (the yellow or blue ones Ukrainian soldiers wear) Russian soldier says we came for you and pops him

rip, people so different they need armbands to tell who is a vatnik and who is a hohol
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I have no doubt you believe that.

So you're saying with a media blackout on one side. An embedded independent media on the other side reporting geolocation and producing footage of thousands upon thousands of Ukrainian deaths the understanding you have is

"I have a whole ass army but am being defeated because I will only use 10% of it due to invisible and undefeatable limitations increasing its size is impossible."

Russia can have an additional 700k there in a month and additional million there to that two weeks later.

So what makes sense? The force is effective and scalable to a specific mission or they're just being defeated and shrugging off the L.

Some of you lack the most basic common sense.
To be fair, there are some other considerations. For example, if Russia fully commits to Ukraine, they won't be able to defend against alternate attacks from Finland and the Baltics. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that, but if we were to plan that, and we would decide to dare them to blink on a nuclear strike, they may want to avoid that situation and deter it ever happening by reserving conventional deterrent forces. Depending on how ugly this war gets, we may need to put troops on Russia's border to limit the escalation. But put too many and you risk provoking open war. It's a delicate balance. But we may want to do something to stop Russia from full commitment too since then, they'd be unlikely to accept any negotiation.

The best possible thing that can happen is a stalemate. I thought we were there, but Ukraine has gotten some new aid and a fresh counteroffensive. We'll see how this plays out. Once stalemated, we can rush a negotiation and hopefully fuking end this thing. I hope Biden has the sense to do this, but I don't think he does.

We need neither side to really make gains because then they will be emboldened to continue the war.

What rly bothers me is our plan isn't to end the war. Our plan is to "defeat Russia". That's a terrible plan.

I hate that we basically had a stalemate and Biden decided let's send more weapons.

Theoretically the war should have ended by now since Russia now effectively controls what it wanted to, and if Ukraine were willing to accept and recognize some of that territory, there could have probably been a ceasefire.

We squandered an opportunity for peace solely for Ukrainian pride and American greed.
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun⏩
To be fair, there are some other considerations. For example, if Russia fully commits to Ukraine, they won't be able to defend against alternate attacks from Finland and the Baltics. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that, but if we were to plan that, and we would decide to dare them to blink on a nuclear strike, they may want to avoid that situation and deter it ever happening by reserving conventional deterrent forces. Depending on how ugly this war gets, we may need to put troops on Russia's border to limit the escalation. But put too many and you risk open war. It's a delicate balance. But we may want to do something to stop Russia from full commitment too since then, they'd be unlikely to accept any negotiation.

The best possible thing that can happen is a stalemate. I thought we were there, but Ukraine has gotten some new aid and a fresh counteroffensive. We'll see how this plays out. Once stalemated, we can rush a negotiation and hopefully fuking end this thing. I hope Biden has the sense to do this, but I don't think he does.
You literally just admitted you are Russian, fukking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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