Can you read? "We" is referring to the US. And you completely missed my argument if you read it any other way. It doesn't even make sense then.

I didn't read the entire post, re-reading it is just as bad. You are stating we need to put boots on the ground right outside Russia's border? Are you being serious?

I'm saying if this war gets really ugly, we may need to in order to prevent Russia from fully committing. It has to be a small enough number to distract, but not so much to provoke nonconventional attacks or preemption. This is a well known tactic in warfare. You're effectively threatening a second front and distracting resources from the adversary so their ability to escalate is limited.

And the reason we don't want Russia fully committing is then they will be emboldened to not accept any negotiations. And depending on how long the war would have gone for and how many would have died, they might increase their war aims. That's dangerous.

Russians trying to escape encirclement with/riding on a tank, run through Ukrainian forces,
get shot up, you'll have to watch the ending for the surprise ending

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._with_mounted/

Russian TV channels in the occupied Crimea broadcast an address by the President of Ukraine with a warning about being near military facilities and announcing the de-occupation of Crimea
https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/17560




Ukrainian troops being welcomed by the local population in Kharkiv Oblast.

Leaked plan of Kherson offensive




' Operation Berry Cirrus '
General E Joe King

I lol'd

^
lol



just a few guise out for a stroll ...
vid -

this is the third time in the past month I've seen a vid like that






Ukrainian unit singing the national anthem before an operation begins
vid -

Example of the garbage we are helping btw (2021):

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...guage-tensions

ofc our media will not cover any of this or explain why the separatists wanted to leave

And this was back in 2000 to show how entrenched the sentiment was:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20.../07/iantraynor

McCain meets nazi in 2013:

https://www.businessinsider.com/john...kraine-2013-12

Insane retard crew really think Crimea will become ukriane... just lol book mark this

Once one more embarassment to these people? Fukin chalup bailed like a nazi bitch and now he's spamming, fukin retard must really think its happening. Hilarious

Slumped in front of a television in a hall decked with the paraphernalia of Ukrainian nationalism, he and his three skinhead mates explain their loathing for the language of Pushkin and recall with relish the day the local Russians got their comeuppance in Lviv.

"I've not really got anything against Russians. Some of them are my friends. But they've got to realise this is not Russia, this is Ukraine, and I love my country."

Are you talking about Russian language being forced onto Ukrainians? You are wondering why certain actions were taken against Russia and its language after they annexed Crimea? I'm almost positive you are mentally retarded.

I went on a vacation for a month to Tampa, I even offered to meet up with you for a beer before leaving you retard.

In the last 72 hours or so, the pro-Russian side of the internet has been sent into an tailspin of panic over a new Ukrainian counteroffensive which is currently being launched in the Kharkov region, with the intention of compromising the Russian army grouping at Izyum. The panic was triggered by claims that Ukraine was advancing unopposed, encircling - or perhaps even capturing - the city of Balakliya - and on the verge of cutting off supply lines to Izyum..

My view is fairly simple: Ukraine cannot and will not reach meaningful objectives - what we call “operational depth” - and has in fact thrown much of its carefully crafted premium reserves into a dangerous position. I believe it’s highly likely that these top rate Ukrainian formations are about to be savaged - but this is still an important learning moment for Russia.

Izyum: The Non-Salient

In military parlance, a “salient” simply means a bulge in the frontline, where one side has achieved some level of penetration at a particular point. A salient is a classically vulnerable position - a glaringly obvious operational focal point, because simultaneous attacks at the base of the bulge can easily cut it off and trap the forces inside. Essentially, a salient is a position where a force is already encircled on 3 sides, leaving only the exit to be snapped shut.

In the opening phase of the war, Izyum was indeed a salient. Russia had captured an exposed position which jutted out into Ukrainian territory, and there was talk of a Ukrainian counteroffensive to take advantage of this. Furthermore, the only safe supply line to Izyum ran through Kupyansk, making this a vulnerable position indeed.

However, throughout the following weeks, Russia took control of the territory directly to the east of Izyum, including the town of Lyman. This concretized the Russian flank and secured additional lines of communication into Izyum, creating redundancies for the highway from Kupyansk.

The window of opportunity for an easy encirclement or interdiction of supply to Izyum ended when Russia cleared all the Ukrainian forces from the north side of the Donets river. Supply lines to Izyum are now shielded from the south by the Donets, and from the west by the Oskil.

Because Russia has redundant supply lines to the northeast of Izyum, for Ukraine to reach operational depth, they must cross the Donets and Oskil rivers. Even suppressing Kupyansk is not enough to disrupt Russia’s ability to project force here. The Oskil river - which, incidentally is more than a kilometer wide in places - presents a major barrier that will prevent Ukraine from exploiting their early advances. They have more or less advanced into a wall, and already the map presents an unfolding catastrophe for them.

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/ukraine-counterattacks

This proxy war by Iran and North Korea must stop.
They are prolonging the war by supplying weapons to Russia.
The end result of Russian defeat is still the same but just with more dead.
















Stizzel on way to grocery

He assures us car work properly

THEY VOTED TO LEAVE. You're making excuses for marginalizing people. And BTW, as I linked, the push for this was going on long before Crimea was annexed. Svoboda was nazi. The militias were nazis. And much of the Ukrainian government still to this day celebrates Bandera, Stetsko, and Shukhevych. The nazis are real. They did what they always do and provoked a response from antifascists and then played victim for support to gain power. Everyone has seen this before. This country has a sacred pact forged in the blood of millions to never allow nazis to rise again. There were 5 great armies that stood against that evil and prevailed. 3 of them have now chosen to betray that pact. Putin will lead Russia, and he will ensure the security of the Russian people by any means necessary.

We should rethink what we are doing helping these people because it is morally wrong. We need to end this war. When the fog clears, you will see how wrong we were.

blah blah blah, and Russia isn't liberating anyone, they are sending teenagers to fight for RUSSIA in small towns temporarily occupied by the invaders. Ukraine must fight at all cost to keep their land.

I am not surprised Jizzel couldn't meet in person.

Russian TV


Today host Anton Anisimov signed off with this somewhat panicky message about the Ukrainian offensive in Kharkiv Region

Russia’s top propagandists don’t know how to handle the Ukrainian offensive and Russia’s poor performance.
Soloviev says “let’s not panic, Stalin used to say that those who panic must be shot.”

They are fighting to protect the rights of Russian Ukrainians and to protect the security of Russia against western aggression. And Crimea is not really Ukrainian land. It was gifted by Khrushchev, but it was always ethnically Russian. They did not want to be oppressed after the coup. BTW the coup in Ukraine formally voids all claims of sovereignty, at least from an ethical standpoint. The Russian Ukrainians had no obligation to go along with the new government and should have been allowed to leave.

gibs are received, now its time for svinorez

Who are those fukkin goofballs man? I thought it was satire at first, apparently the people talking on that show are serious?

lol

Oh the mother****ing irony.

The Ukrainian army on the march a few days ago

Ukraine is getting Hellfire missiles
https://defbrief.com/2022/09/08/norw...es-to-ukraine/

160 to start
For ground platform, helicopter, or Bayraktar as well. Bayraktar is currently building a factory in Ukraine BTW.

I just laid out the specific numbers of the Russian military active/reserve mobilizing to a place bordering its own country. Both major cities just miles away from which the mobilization will come.

Please explain the irony.

this just in

Ukrainian forces have taken Kupyansk

After some mild bombardment, Russian forces abandoned it

this is huge and will make Izyum untenable

What in the actual

Historical moment is here. Russia will collapse soon. Slava Ukraini!

Breaking


Russian forces are fleeing Izyum. Ukrainian forces entering the city now

Same with Lyman


This is huge

It figures that you would be too stupid to see that they just pocketed themselves and will be wiped out completely within the next month.

Ukrainian forces in the city of Kupyansk, Kharkiv Oblast

From someone in Ukrainian special forces on the ground there right now outside Izyum -

"Izyum will be under Ukrainian control within hours. Russians escaped and left weapons and ammo behind. City center is free."

This same person said yesterday, '24 hrs for liberations of Kupyansk' and they were correct