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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667637863 09-10-2022, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
it is a disaster, but more from a propaganda perspective. Russia despite their blunder knew better than to allow their forces to get slaughtered by defending indefensible positions. They have three options-

further withdrawal and fortify what they have and negotiate a stop to hostilities (Zero percent chance)

continue this conflict with the personnel they have (40% chance)

mobilize more troops and escalate the scale of combat (60% chance)


Ukraincels are all hyped so they will not like this option, but perhaps now is when you reach out and negotiate. Perhaps now that Russia knows that they will have to mobilize, maybe this will open them up to negotiate a peace where they keep some of the pro-Russian areas and end hostilities, start shipping gas back to Europe and put and end to this conflict. Wont happen, but now is the time. If Russia commits to full scale war its all or nothing at that point.
Maybe. Once the tempo settles we'll see. I'm not seeing it as dire as that. There's still a lot to get a hold of here. It looks like that manpower was just previously shifted elsewhere recently so it was left soft.

Best case is that the area is re-fought. Russia isn't fighting or taking casualties so military strength isnt the immediate issue (maybe over all) but bombing and firing artillery on the way out is causing significant Ukrainian casualties. Russia claiming several thousand.

They may try to close the Frontline back up as a duel front and push in all directions to push yo center or continue a three front assault and try to push out.

Let's hope they try to fight. The other alternatives aren't so bright. It's not something they haven't done and Ukraine is less equipped.
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post 1667638003 09-10-2022, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/09/europ...ntl/index.html

Fines for political dissent. Probably death next. What an AlPhA country right vatniks? Biden should be able to fine all Trump supporters right vatniks? Since that's so AlpHA?
Please stop spreading propaganda, I happen to know that they were Soros-paid globohomo p3dotranny shills who wanted the kids to watch Cuties on Netflix.
Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Like him or not, Putin is the smartest man in the room.

Perhaps his plan from the beginning was to throw a half ass military operation at Ukraine to drain the west of money then cut off EU's oil and gas and watch their economies crumble. NATO members will start second guessing their allegiance this winter.
You left out the part where any of this would benefit Russia instead of buttfuking them back to the stone age.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Like him or not, Putin is the smartest man in the room.

Perhaps his plan from the beginning was to throw a half ass military operation at Ukraine to drain the west of money then cut off EU's oil and gas and watch their economies crumble. NATO members will start second guessing their allegiance this winter.
the affects are definitely being felt in North America, although I think the govts here embrace and embellish it to make it even worse... or so it seems sometimes.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
LOL...yeah...LOL......you're just another team dick rider. Now that you have something to use it's "we always knew it was going to be a long haul!". Anyway, it's not even over yet so don't chaff yourself from the circle jerk.

LOL...I was just on my summer vacation! If Russia somehow pulls this around going to be another big LOL when it becomes another vatnik circle jerk.
Imagine people starting to post more when something substantive happened! What a radical concept.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
Stizzel lives in Nigeria.
Figures. Between that and the Buttf*ck, Nowhere crew, some of the views expressed are really starting to make sense.

The "there is no Russian military presence in Ukraine" as well, which was already disproven back in 2014 when those claims started. Mystery Green men, but alas those weapons...yikes. And all in the public domain!
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
it is a disaster, but more from a propaganda perspective. Russia despite their blunder knew better than to allow their forces to get slaughtered by defending indefensible positions. They have three options-

further withdrawal and fortify what they have and negotiate a stop to hostilities (Zero percent chance)

continue this conflict with the personnel they have (40% chance)

mobilize more troops and escalate the scale of combat (60% chance)


Ukraincels are all hyped so they will not like this option, but perhaps now is when you reach out and negotiate. Perhaps now that Russia knows that they will have to mobilize, maybe this will open them up to negotiate a peace where they keep some of the pro-Russian areas and end hostilities, start shipping gas back to Europe and put and end to this conflict. Wont happen, but now is the time. If Russia commits to full scale war its all or nothing at that point.
I would agree but Ukraine won't do it, they are set on taking Crimea back. I also don't think Poots can mobilize his entire military without mutiny happening. And will they really do it and let Ukraine know its coming? 80% of the units in the theatre are already exhausted. They would literally be starting from square one. I think a nuke is more likely than mass mobilization.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Figures. Between that and the Buttf*ck, Nowhere crew, some of the views expressed are really starting to make sense.

The "there is no Russian military presence in Ukraine" as well, which was already disproven back in 2014 when those claims started. Mystery Green men, but alas those weapons...yikes. And all in the public domain!
You probably think Russia is committing war in ukriane as well lol
post 1667638243 09-10-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Like him or not, Putin is the smartest man in the room.

Perhaps his plan from the beginning was to throw a half ass military operation at Ukraine to drain the west of money then cut off EU's oil and gas and watch their economies crumble. NATO members will start second guessing their allegiance this winter.
I don't think so. I think it was targeted and sincere. Politically the Russian government would have been in turmoil for a full scale mobilization.
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I enjoy seeing vatniks realize Russia is not a major military power. Haven't been since WWII.
“In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

-General George S. Patton
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Like him or not, Putin is the smartest man in the room.

Perhaps his plan from the beginning was to throw a half ass military operation at Ukraine to drain the west of money then cut off EU's oil and gas and watch their economies crumble. NATO members will start second guessing their allegiance this winter.
Vlad the Chad playing intergalactic chess.
post 1667638383 09-10-2022, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Figures. Between that and the Buttf*ck, Nowhere crew, some of the views expressed are really starting to make sense.

The "there is no Russian military presence in Ukraine" as well, which was already disproven back in 2014 when those claims started. Mystery Green men, but alas those weapons...yikes. And all in the public domain!
Yeah almost as dumb as the no nazi claim by your boy McFaul.
post 1667638393 09-10-2022, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I would agree but Ukraine won't do it, they are set on taking Crimea back. I also don't think Poots can mobilize his entire military without mutiny happening. And will they really do it and let Ukraine know its coming? 80% of the units in the theatre are already exhausted. They would literally be starting from square one. I think a nuke is more likely than mass mobilization.
There may be enough steam for war after citizens feeling sanctions and NATO involvement. Who knows.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
I enjoy seeing vatniks realize Russia is not a major military power. Haven't been since WWII.
Delusional 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants in places like the USA or Canada who have had it too good, for too long. Now trying to find meaning - the "motherland", and all that. A shame when the victory of liberalism is so complete that it provides for anything from spirituality to banality (the latter typifying these Daddy-Putin-desperation posts).
post 1667638483 09-10-2022, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
I enjoy seeing vatniks realize Russia is not a major military power. Haven't been since WWII.
wtf is a vatnik, also you are ignoring facts if you think Russia isnt a major military power
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun⏩
Navalny wants to fragment Russia into nation states. He's an ethnonationalist and a western shill.
Most Russians don't consider the Asians and Caucasians there "real" Russians anyway.
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
wtf is a vatnik, also you are ignoring facts if you think Russia isnt a major military power
Psst:

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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
You probably think Russia is committing war in ukriane as well lol
The textbook definition, anyway.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Delusional 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants in places like the USA or Canada who have had it too good, for too long. Now trying to find meaning - the "motherland", and all that. A shame when the victory of liberalism is so complete that it provides for anything from spirituality to banality (the latter typifying these Daddy-Putin-desperation posts).
Liberalism is the source of 30 years of endless war and misery. Unchecked unipolarity has led to an unstable and fragmented world. Go suck Fukuyama's dick more. It's all rhetoric to cover for an imperial hegemonic strategy. Fukuyama is and always has been full of chit.



You subhumans conflate education amd prosperity progress or international institutions with liberal hegemony. We can have the former and peace without the latter. In fact, the quest to impose "human rights" (w/e the fuk that means) on other nations will surely lead to war.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
I enjoy seeing vatniks realize Russia is not a major military power. Haven't been since WWII.
This is still not true. It's infact dangerously untrue.
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post 1667638663 09-10-2022, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Most Russians don't consider the Asians and Caucasians there "real" Russians anyway.
Putin does. He has always encouraged a multiethnic, unified Russia.

Because he isn't Hitler. He's the anti-Hitler. He's literally every antifa's wet dream. Yet for whatever reason they are shouting Slava Ukraini rather than siding with Vlad the Chad as he kicks some nazi butt.

Apparently it's ok to punch "nazis". Just not actual nazis.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
This is still not true. It's infact dangerously untrue.
Is it bad that I want us to lose this? I want us to be humbled. I tire of American hubris.
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The Ukrainian Army is attacking Kreminna, near Severodonetsk, after an intense wave of HIMARS strikes on local ammo depots and command and control centers.







The Ukrainian Army has entered Vovchansk. It means that Ukraine is taking back all the territory up to the border in a new blitz-operation started earlier today. The question is now whether to strike the Russian border city Belgorod.




Also several unconfirmed rumours so far about the Ukies taking Donetsk airport and pushing into the city.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Is it bad that I want us to lose this? I want us to be humbled. I tire of American hubris.
What was your main banned for?
“In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
What was your main banned for?
I'm a totally new poster.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
I'm a totally new poster.
Lol
“In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Psst:

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The textbook definition, anyway.
its a special operation, war is not declared, these are concrete facts
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Who's invading whom now?


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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
its a special operation, war is not declared, these are concrete facts
Lol
“In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
Lol
Folks post like that after drinking too much cheap vodka. Have seen it before. Even back in 2014, lol. "Nothing to see here, guys. You got us all wrong!"
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Uh oh. Poots might be in trouble.

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