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09-12-2022, 08:01 AM
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Say what you will about Ukraine, but Russia still hasn't taken over.
Their leader, Zelensky, might be annoying asking for money and support and this and that, but honestly it is an alpha move.
Non-alpha males do not like asking for help because they don't want to seem rude or in need or whatever else kind of reason there is.
Alphas do not think about this or that, they just do what NEEDS to be done, so if they need help to finish the task, they recruit, ask for assistance or whatever. There's never a thought about how this will affect the people they ask or what it means for them but more so - how to get the task at hand done.
Russia still hasn't taken over Ukraine and has actually lost ground.
IF THIS WAR IS HAPPENING AS IT SEEMS: Russia trying to advance but failing miserably, then I got to hand it to Zelensky for doing what needed to be done to protect his people in the country he is leading.
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With that said, nothing this large is ever as it seems (so it would seem).
Non-alpha males do not like asking for help because they don't want to seem rude or in need or whatever else kind of reason there is.
Alphas do not think about this or that, they just do what NEEDS to be done, so if they need help to finish the task, they recruit, ask for assistance or whatever. There's never a thought about how this will affect the people they ask or what it means for them but more so - how to get the task at hand done.
Russia still hasn't taken over Ukraine and has actually lost ground.
IF THIS WAR IS HAPPENING AS IT SEEMS: Russia trying to advance but failing miserably, then I got to hand it to Zelensky for doing what needed to be done to protect his people in the country he is leading.
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With that said, nothing this large is ever as it seems (so it would seem).
09-12-2022, 08:02 AM
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09-12-2022, 08:04 AM
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Zelensky needs to do 1 more photoshoot to really seal the deal tho.
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09-12-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
We could have ended both countries with 1 bomb. We half ass things and lose interest. lol @ thinking the US 'couldn't' do these things. Those enemies hide behind civilians like cowards and the US backs off of that many times.The USA couldnt take over Afghanistan in 20 years and had to retreat. They also couldnt take over Vietnam
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09-12-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
We had full control of the country in less than 2 months lol. Roughly same size and population as Ukraine with less infrastructure. Russian strategy is trash. Insurgency doesn’t mean you don’t have control of the country it just means you haven’t completely wiped out enemy combatants. We had every major city under control and the general population supported us, and Afghanistan was joining the 21st century. Then Biden gave that all up just because.The USA couldnt take over Afghanistan in 20 years and had to retreat. They also couldnt take over Vietnam
The reality is that winning a war takes long
The reality is that winning a war takes long
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09-12-2022, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By natypes⏩
And yet it still means you lost.We could have ended both countries with 1 bomb. We half ass things and lose interest. lol @ thinking the US 'couldn't' do these things. Those enemies hide behind civilians like cowards and the US backs off of that many times.
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09-12-2022, 08:23 AM
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09-12-2022, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By bemyguest⏩
Lol that isn't what that means at all. It took us over 100 years just to completely demoralize the Native Americans. If you have effectively wiped out the standing military of another country and control all major cities and ports/airports, you won.And yet it still means you lost.
Also I don't think anyone from ukland should be discussing military strategy like the UK is good at it. Haven't been relevant in 70 years.
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09-12-2022, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Holyfenix⏩
NATO has been there for so many years they didnt develop chit.We had full control of the country in less than 2 months lol. Roughly same size and population as Ukraine with less infrastructure. Russian strategy is trash. Insurgency doesn’t mean you don’t have control of the country it just means you haven’t completely wiped out enemy combatants. We had every major city under control and the general population supported us, and Afghanistan was joining the 21st century. Then Biden gave that all up just because.
Only time when it could be considered developed was before Americans decided to support islamic terrorists in there
09-12-2022, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By natypes⏩
Russia could end Ukraine with 1 nuke to Kiev too but since this is a conventional war, it is similar to the USWe could have ended both countries with 1 bomb. We half ass things and lose interest. lol @ thinking the US 'couldn't' do these things. Those enemies hide behind civilians like cowards and the US backs off of that many times.
Originally Posted By Holyfenix⏩
You guys retreated and the country is back at point zero, getting lead by the taliban again.We had full control of the country in less than 2 months lol. Roughly same size and population as Ukraine with less infrastructure. Russian strategy is trash. Insurgency doesn’t mean you don’t have control of the country it just means you haven’t completely wiped out enemy combatants. We had every major city under control and the general population supported us, and Afghanistan was joining the 21st century. Then Biden gave that all up just because.
09-12-2022, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By imiscubb⏩
This.Russia never wanted to take over Ukraine
09-12-2022, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400⏩
They didn't want to develop anything. It's a lot less profit to mine in a modern country than in one with conflict.NATO has been there for so many years they didnt develop chit.
Only time when it could be considered developed was before Americans decided to support islamic terrorists in there
Only time when it could be considered developed was before Americans decided to support islamic terrorists in there
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
That's the problem when a place has no infrastructure - what are you going to take over? You capture a couple of cities and then what? Skirmish forever? There's a reason Russia couldn't do it in the 80s either. If there's no real existing power structures there is nothing to capture.The USA couldnt take over Afghanistan in 20 years and had to retreat. They also couldnt take over Vietnam
The reality is that winning a war takes long
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What makes you think Russia wants to end the war?
Go read 1984, it will give you a much more nuanced view of modern conflicts.
Go read 1984, it will give you a much more nuanced view of modern conflicts.
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
This. Unless your plan is to absolutely decimate a country and genocide a ppl, guerrilla warfare is a long grind, even for the most powerful military in the world.The USA couldnt take over Afghanistan in 20 years and had to retreat. They also couldnt take over Vietnam
The reality is that winning a war takes long
The reality is that winning a war takes long
Which is why there is so much irony, btw, in dems saying "give us your guns, you wouldn't be able to do anything against jets and nukes anyways"
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09-12-2022, 08:49 AM
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Yeah Ukraine have proved far more resilient than many expected. Partly due to the bravery and determination of it's people and partly due to the sheer inadequacy of the Russian army.
Even if Russia are able to annex the lands they currently hold and retain them once a peace deal is made, the fact is the reputation of Russia as a military power has taken a big hit.
Will be interesting to see if the recent gains by Ukraine can be held or even expanded on.
Even if Russia are able to annex the lands they currently hold and retain them once a peace deal is made, the fact is the reputation of Russia as a military power has taken a big hit.
Will be interesting to see if the recent gains by Ukraine can be held or even expanded on.
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Fukking LMAO if you don't realize that Putin is a globohomo player and his decisions are made for him by the globalists, just like the American govt, who have an interest in ongoing conflict in Ukraine to advance their agenda. Prolonged war means more time for Europeans (and Americans to a lesser extent) to acclimate to spending more income on their energy bills and food until they are willing to eat bugs and ration energy.
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MSM has been telling us that "ukraine is winning" and "almost there" for like 6 months now and asking for you to donate money.
Ukraine doesnt win anything until Russia is completely gone and signs in writing an agreement not to annex any new land and obeys it. Even if that happens Ukraine is not even back where they started in January 2022.
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Ukraine doesnt win anything until Russia is completely gone and signs in writing an agreement not to annex any new land and obeys it. Even if that happens Ukraine is not even back where they started in January 2022.
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Originally Posted By Peacening⏩
bruh they tried to tell us we bought all our food from ukraine and russia. u fugking wut mate no we didnt we hardly bought anything from themFukking LMAO if you don't realize that Putin is a globohomo player and his decisions are made for him by the globalists, just like the American govt, who have an interest in ongoing conflict in Ukraine to advance their agenda. Prolonged war means more time for Europeans (and Americans to a lesser extent) to acclimate to spending more income on their energy bills and food until they are willing to eat bugs and ration energy.
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
So does losing one...The USA couldnt take over Afghanistan in 20 years
The reality is that winning a war takes long
The reality is that winning a war takes long
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
I mean if it makes your bean sucking a$$ feel better you can call it a retreat but if you want to live in reality poor leadership decided it wasn't a strategically valuable area and withdrew. I believe that was a mistake as we were holding the country with a fraction of the forces it required to take it.Russia could end Ukraine with 1 nuke to Kiev too but since this is a conventional war, it is similar to the US
You guys retreated and the country is back at point zero, getting lead by the taliban again.
You guys retreated and the country is back at point zero, getting lead by the taliban again.
Then again why am I discussing geopolitcal warfare with someone who lives in a barely 2nd world country. The US could probably conquer Mexico with 20,000 Marines.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
That will never happen...they already had Minsk 1 and 2 and the Ukrainians betrayed both of those while the ink was wet.MSM has been telling us that "ukraine is winning" and "almost there" for like 6 months now and asking for you to donate money.
Ukraine doesnt win anything until Russia is completely gone and signs in writing an agreement not to annex any new land and obeys it. Even if that happens Ukraine is not even back where they started in January 2022.
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Ukraine doesnt win anything until Russia is completely gone and signs in writing an agreement not to annex any new land and obeys it. Even if that happens Ukraine is not even back where they started in January 2022.
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