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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667767123 09-12-2022, 06:54 PM
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post 1667767283 09-12-2022, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
We are doing everything except boots on the ground, and even then they are but not in US military gear. I doubt they are doing any sort of direct action against Russian positions. Ukraine has been training special operations personnel for a long time with the help of NATO, no need for us to get involved directly, especially since the front lines are an absolute slaughter for Ukrainians despite the gains.
Don't forget the neckbeard redditors that have gone to "fight" for them.
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The damage control some people in this thread are doing to try and save face is great

Speaking of bad takes, what happened to the 32 bio weapons labs in ukraine with vatnik DNA driven virus's run by the CIA? We must have videos and pics from russian sources who liberated these facilities months ago right?
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post 1667767503 09-12-2022, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
We are doing everything except boots on the ground, and even then they are but not in US military gear. I doubt they are doing any sort of direct action against Russian positions. Ukraine has been training special operations personnel for a long time with the help of NATO, no need for us to get involved directly, especially since the front lines are an absolute slaughter for Ukrainians despite the gains.
'Everything except boots on the ground'

Yeah, all those DDGs in the Black Sea firing TLAMs nonstop....
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post 1667767783 09-12-2022, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
The damage control some people in this thread are doing to try and save face is great

Speaking of bad takes, what happened to the 32 bio weapons labs in ukraine with vatnik DNA driven virus's run by the CIA? We must have videos and pics from russian sources who liberated these facilities months ago right?
Be patient, first they have to determine whether the foreign volunteers are tranny redditors or vatnikhunting NATO death squads recruited from Delta and the SAS.
post 1667767863 09-12-2022, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Don't forget the neckbeard redditors that have gone to "fight" for them.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/19915
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post 1667768053 09-12-2022, 07:12 PM
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post 1667768093 09-12-2022, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
The damage control some people in this thread are doing to try and save face is great

Speaking of bad takes, what happened to the 32 bio weapons labs in ukraine with vatnik DNA driven virus's run by the CIA? We must have videos and pics from russian sources who liberated these facilities months ago right?
Oh interesting. Let's see how the rightwingers on your side of the war respond. One just said we're firing tomahawks from Arleigh Burke class warships at Russia. Brilliant posts all around.
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post 1667768263 09-12-2022, 07:16 PM
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post 1667768293 09-12-2022, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Oh interesting. Let's see how the rightwingers on your side of the war respond. One just said we're firing tomahawks from Arleigh Burke class warships at Russia. Brilliant posts all around.
You can't even comprehend.... it was blatant sarcasm. esl?
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post 1667768993 09-12-2022, 07:31 PM
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post 1667769143 09-12-2022, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
They're there. Non uniform intelligence for certain. They aren't combatants. All sides play that
In this case I consider troops to be combatants. Not disputing NATO and the USA are helping out heavily with intelligence.
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US fears Russian energy manipulation could fracture European resolve on Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rgy/index.html

Winter is coming indeed.
post 1667770263 09-12-2022, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Was the line in Kharkov the same as the east and south?

If I'm right does my position make sense that this needs to stop. All flaming aside.
Bruh just post some sources on 200,000 deaths on the Ukrainian side that isn't Russian.
post 1667770783 09-12-2022, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I see a repeating pattern where we say one thing, and they take it to another level of outrageous nonsense. I think we've been pretty upfront with what's happening right now but instead of a conversation it's just juvenile chit posting. I dont get it.
Sure I like to play around amd have been known to troll but this is a whole new level.

It's actually ironic to see "rightwingers" talk a good game until it comes down to assessing facts, applying logic, and standing by principle.

It's not my fault my interpretation of events, to which I defend and am not countered (only called names), does not fit theor world view. They screech like liberals. I'll write to those that will listen and debate those that are man enough to have a discussion. I'm not above being wrong and can be persuaded with logic.

As far as this, I'm not seeing it. Especially compared to the risk to reward balance.
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post 1667770883 09-12-2022, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Bruh just post some sources on 200,000 deaths on the Ukrainian side that isn't Russian.
I have. Do your own research. Try a neutral fact finding position. I'm not posting each skirmish and artillery fire.

Feel free to justify the firing of the tens of millions of rounds at nothing.

They can be from either side. I don't care which. Death is death.
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post 1667770943 09-12-2022, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
US fears Russian energy manipulation could fracture European resolve on Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rgy/index.html

Winter is coming indeed.
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post 1667771343 09-12-2022, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Bruh just post some sources on 200,000 deaths on the Ukrainian side that isn't Russian.
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it was higher

Whole bloodlines Have been wiped out and instead of meeting with Putin, zelensky begs the west for more money so he can continue to slaughter his own people
post 1667771393 09-12-2022, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Oh interesting. Let's see how the rightwingers on your side of the war respond. One just said we're firing tomahawks from Arleigh Burke class warships at Russia. Brilliant posts all around.
lmao

take your meds old man

I have a theory that memey is actually a well-intended patriot and loves the united states, its just that he watched red dawn too many times as a child. It became an obsession, a way of life leaving a lasting impression on his developing psyche. Memey knew the only way to live out his libertarian anarchist fantasy was the great red army invading. Now that the vatniks have proven themselves incompetent, there is no existential boogeyman. The dream of the wolverine is over. All those cans of beans, mres, ammo and lube stockpiled will go to waste.
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I see a repeating pattern where we say one thing, and they take it to another level of outrageous nonsense. I think we've been pretty upfront with what's happening right now but instead of a conversation it's just juvenile chit posting. I dont get it.
call it what you will, but don't call it hyperbole or me making **** up... People still posting to this day (not you memey since I know your ego thinks I'm talking about you) argued in good faith in like april that nato was using Ukraine specifically to make Russian DNA-engineered bioweapons using Russian sources as a rationale for the invasion. These same people are on revision 52 of the current narrative. If i cannot poke fun at "TRUST ME THIS TIME BRO" then i dunno what to tell you
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post 1667771453 09-12-2022, 08:29 PM
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post 1667771753 09-12-2022, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
lmao

take your meds old man

I have a theory that memey is actually a well-intended patriot and loves the united states, its just that he watched red dawn too many times as a child. It became an obsession, a way of life leaving a lasting impression on his developing psyche. Memey knew the only way to live out his libertarian anarchist fantasy was the great red army invading. Now that the vatniks have proven themselves incompetent, there is no existential boogeyman. The dream of the wolverine is over. All those cans of beans, mres, ammo and lube stockpiled will go to waste.



call it what you will, but don't call it hyperbole or me making **** up... People still posting to this day (not you memey since I know your ego thinks I'm talking about you) argued in good faith in like april that nato was using Ukraine specifically to make Russian DNA-engineered bioweapons using Russian sources as a rationale for the invasion. These same people are on revision 52 of the current narrative. If i cannot poke fun at "TRUST ME THIS TIME BRO" then i dunno what to tell you
Or began my military career training against this very threat but okay den.

Sounds like you guise got it all figured out.

PS I don't do conspiracy. I only saw a congressional admission that they exist and all the stuff was likely burned up. I'd rather they have all the dangerous stuff where the most corrupt white people are (personal opinion no hate Ukraine/ Russia is prime).
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post 1667771853 09-12-2022, 08:39 PM
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post 1667771923 09-12-2022, 08:40 PM
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Russia has 2 options at this point.

Call it quits and retreat back to their preinvasion lines.

Or

Fully mobilize for total war

Russia doesn't have the technology like the US does or competence and tactics like the IDF has for example to win a war against a NATO armed Ukraine while only using 100,000 conscripts and Militia.

If they want to 'win' they need to fight in the way they're good at. Mobilize 2,000,000 soldiers, blast Ukraine with artillery and send large army groups in to overwhelm them.

At this point though I think option 2 is impossible. People don't have the same national pride they did during WW2 USSR and Putin, while scary, isn't able to project that Stalin level of fear.

That Russian TV showed explained it all. Putin was grossly mislead.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I have. Do your own research. Try a neutral fact finding position. I'm not posting each skirmish and artillery fire.

Feel free to justify the firing of the tens of millions of rounds at nothing.

They can be from either side. I don't care which. Death is death.
Would be nice to see more in depth analysis. Maybe you're not very inclined to entertain some trolls but there are also people who would appreciate it. I don't have the time to go on a large fact finding mission and I probably also lack the knowledge/resources to get anywhere very useful.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I was 18 when 9-11 went down. I remember my parents worried that chit could get out of control and a draft happening. It really is heartbreaking to see so many Ukrainians being slaughtered because the USA, NATO and Russia couldn't find a compromise. Even if Russia picked up and left Ukraine right now, I don't know how that's a victory for anyone.
Ukrainians dont want to live under Russian rule, PERIOD. Hence the miserable signups for Russian passports and the nonstop bombings of Russian officials in occupied cities.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Would be nice to see more in depth analysis. Maybe you're not very inclined to entertain some trolls but there are also people who would appreciate it. I don't have the time to go on a large fact finding mission and I probably also lack the knowledge/resources to get anywhere very useful.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/19942

Take a single day's destruction. Multiply by x200 days

This is the most common day to day on the receiving end of artillery.https://t.me/azmilitary11/19926
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
That Russian TV showed explained it all. Putin was grossly mislead.
Yep, and some of us called this from the start
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post 1667773153 09-12-2022, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Yep, and some of us called this from the start
Called what?
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Called what?
That Poots is a fukkin manlet imbecile that has no idea wtf he is doing.
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