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post 1667790763 09-13-2022, 08:19 AM
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44% of hospitalizations were boosted or four doses

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post 1667790883 09-13-2022, 08:21 AM
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very unusual that a new form of treatment that showed more death in the vax group than placebo during the trial is failing.
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post 1667792843 09-13-2022, 08:57 AM
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This is interesting because it shows a better representation of the jabs due to higher amounts of people getting jabbed.

The correlation =/= causation effect of the jabs is playing out to be what everyone suspected.

If financially well-off people who had good healthcare were getting jabbed, they are likely in better health to begin with; so any "benefit" that is perceived to derive from the jab is actually just correlation, not causation.

This exact same thing happened with women who received hormone therapy during menopause; financially well-off people were getting the hormone therapy, and had less health complications than the poor people who weren't receiving hormone therapy.

It was NOT the hormone therapy that was causing them to live longer, it was the countless other factors related to healthcare access.

When they finally did a double blind placebo study, they found mortality to be so much higher among people receiving hormone therapy that they had to emergency-stop the trial.

The fact we are seeing 44% right now, would imply that possibly the jabbies are being hospitalized at a higher rate than the non-jabbies due to the socio-economic situation I stated above.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
very unusual that a new form of treatment that showed more death in the vax group than placebo during the trial is failing.
were you always a bigot or were you radicalized by the alt right
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post 1667793293 09-13-2022, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
were you always a bigot or were you radicalized by the alt right
Marion Gruber and Philip Krause were just trumptards.

I prefer getting my science from pfizer sponsored media.
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Saw that in my queue this morning too.

Read something yesterday that said "negative effectiveness after 5 months". Or, IOW, 5 months after getting the mrna shots you are more likely to become ill and more likely to have severe illness. And it messes up your natural defenses.



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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4206070


More countries aren't going to give it to children any more so that's good.
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post 1667793393 09-13-2022, 09:08 AM
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What I really want to see is some honest data from 2021 during the delta wave that shows vaxxed people were filling the hospitals. Many many nurses working ICU's we're making viral posts to social media stating that it was equally vaxxed and unvaxxed people getting hit hard by Delta but many hospitals weren't releasing that data and covered it up if they did know. The vax did not work from the start.
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post 1667793413 09-13-2022, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422
More countries aren't going to give it to children any more so that's good.
Most countries stopped giving Moderna to young males a LONG time ago... But almost nobody in the USA even knows this.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
This is interesting because it shows a better representation of the jabs due to higher amounts of people getting jabbed.

The correlation =/= causation effect of the jabs is playing out to be what everyone suspected.

If financially well-off people who had good healthcare were getting jabbed, they are likely in better health to begin with; so any "benefit" that is perceived to derive from the jab is actually just correlation, not causation.

This exact same thing happened with women who received hormone therapy during menopause; financially well-off people were getting the hormone therapy, and had less health complications than the poor people who weren't receiving hormone therapy.

It was NOT the hormone therapy that was causing them to live longer, it was the countless other factors related to healthcare access.

When they finally did a double blind placebo study, they found mortality to be so much higher among people receiving hormone therapy that they had to emergency-stop the trial.

The fact we are seeing 44% right now, would imply that possibly the jabbies are being hospitalized at a higher rate than the non-jabbies due to the socio-economic situation I stated above.
Had to look up some stuff on this - it's odd that lowering test in prostate cancer cases led to so many more problems. Seems like a clunky way to attack the problem - probably makes them a lot more lethargic and shrinks muscle mass, which isn't going to help.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/t...scular-disease
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Waiting for JLC and chitsmearer to refute this by stating the CDCs data is incorrect and that a 44% is less than 50% therefore the vaccine is effective.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Most countries stopped giving Moderna to young males a LONG time ago... But almost nobody in the USA even knows this.
paidforbypfizer.mp4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
post 1667793673 09-13-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Had to look up some stuff on this - it's odd that lowering test in prostate cancer cases led to so many more problems. Seems like a clunky way to attack the problem - probably makes them a lot more lethargic and shrinks muscle mass, which isn't going to help.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/t...scular-disease
Check out the book "Ending Medical Reversal" by Vinay Prasad.... He has some INCREDIBLE examples in that book of failed trials, or treatments that had no trials at all due to the correlation effect.

That book was published before covid, so it is even more valid than whatever gets published on medical trials today.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Had to look up some stuff on this - it's odd that lowering test in prostate cancer cases led to so many more problems. Seems like a clunky way to attack the problem - probably makes them a lot more lethargic and shrinks muscle mass, which isn't going to help.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/t...scular-disease
it's almost like the male gender isn't a disease state
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
This is interesting because it shows a better representation of the jabs due to higher amounts of people getting jabbed.

The correlation =/= causation effect of the jabs is playing out to be what everyone suspected.

If financially well-off people who had good healthcare were getting jabbed, they are likely in better health to begin with; so any "benefit" that is perceived to derive from the jab is actually just correlation, not causation.

This exact same thing happened with women who received hormone therapy during menopause; financially well-off people were getting the hormone therapy, and had less health complications than the poor people who weren't receiving hormone therapy.

It was NOT the hormone therapy that was causing them to live longer, it was the countless other factors related to healthcare access.

When they finally did a double blind placebo study, they found mortality to be so much higher among people receiving hormone therapy that they had to emergency-stop the trial.

The fact we are seeing 44% right now, would imply that possibly the jabbies are being hospitalized at a higher rate than the non-jabbies due to the socio-economic situation I stated above.
Hmm...

Is that something new?

The only study I'm aware of that found negative effects from female hormone replacement was very old and was later discredited, though said discreditation wasn't trumpeted near as much.

They trialed female hormone replacement, but the women that they used for the study were many years post menopause vs. in perimenopause/menopause.

Trivia: If a woman has entered menopause [ceased menstruation] and then begins to experience bleeding again then they should get checked for cancer.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Hmm...

Is that something new?

The only study I'm aware of that found negative effects from female hormone replacement was very old and was later discredited, though said discreditation wasn't trumpeted near as much.

They trialed female hormone replacement, but the women that they used for the study were many years post menopause vs. in perimenopause/menopause.

Trivia: If a woman has entered menopause [ceased menstruation] and then begins to experience bleeding again then they should get checked for cancer.
There's a whole chapter about it in Vinay Prasads book "Ending medical reversal".
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
it's almost like the male gender isn't a disease state
I mean I get why they would try it - test causes growth and they want to inhibit the cancer growth, but it shows forcing test to drop is really not healthy at all. I had one Dr (female lol) warn me that TRT led to heart disease. I checked the study out and out of something like 16k men aged 40 something to around 60, there were like 150 heart attacks in the first several months. I'm sort of amazed a study would even mark that as any type of anomaly when you're looking at that age range.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
I mean I get why they would try it - test causes growth and they want to inhibit the cancer growth, but it shows forcing test to drop is really not healthy at all.
That is the focus of the entire book "Ending Medical Reversal"

People get so tunnel-visioned about fighting the disease, side effects that are worse than the disease are ignored, sometimes for YEARS.

Oncology is especially sticky this way.
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That is interesting and while I don't have time to watch all of the video enjoyed what I saw. I've noticed that few in the press want to write about how many hospitalizations for COVID occurred for those fully vaccinated and boosted. (At least I have not seen writers in the press addressing this basic question)

Not all that surprised though. It became obvious early on that the COVID vaccine had big flaws with it. It works poorly. It is a shame that Biden and the Democrats continue with their vaccine mandates. That is causing many Americans to lose their jobs. And this is during a time when there is a shortage of workers.

Hope in the coming election that new politicians are put into power that are more sensible with COVID policies.

Sadly as I was reading this morning, much of the Democrats COVID policies mirror what China did. It is not a good idea to follow communist China's lead.


China’s New Wave Of ‘Zero Covid’ Madness Is A Reminder To Never Follow Tyrants In An Emergency
Chinese President Xi Jinping’s ‘zero covid’ policy shows exactly why Americans should never import communist responses to emergencies.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/13...-an-emergency/
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