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post 1667873043 09-14-2022, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
Drinking vodka and raping cats and dogs is the most likely
Not in the Wagner group, didn’t you read? They say this number three because it’s totally not an issue.

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post 1667873243 09-14-2022, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021
Russians lost probably 80-90% of their troops in the initial fast invasion. After withdrawing from Kiev it's been a slow roll so it doesn't really matter. Maybe it's 17k now
I dont think its possible to know, although if the us/uk intel agencies actually have figures (published figures not just 1 guy saying it), then id be more inclined to believing them.

Its obvious both the ukrainians and russians are fudging their numbers as they see fit.


But even nato intel with all its funding and resources can only estimate the figures of casualties for either side, so really it’s impossible to know with any good certainty what the casualties really are here.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Yeah yeah, we know, Ukies lost 200k while the Russians only lost 10-20k, but most of those were separatists anyway. Guess the still untouched 190k initial invasion force is just hanging around somewhere doing stuff.
Retard crew still amazed that firing artillery instead of engaging in combat doesnt lead to friendly casualties
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Lmao at all the medals when the guy never did chit.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt


Lmao at all the medals when the guy never did chit.
US has like 40 four star generals. How many of them earned their stars through combat? It's amazing the dumb **** you keep posting. Poots still got you so angry.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
How about this. If China invades Taiwan in the next month I’ll leave and never come back. If they don’t same for you.

And obviously I don’t mean this alt.
I said it could happen. I'm not a fortune teller.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
I know this thread is an edge lord contest with juvenile insults peppered in, but if the numbers from the CIA are correct from two months ago, 15K, I'm trying to understand what people think of Russia's capabilities. Obviously, most posters on here think they are incapable of providing more able combat troops to the region. But based on known figures for the Russian military, is it logical to think that?
It would be far beyond foolish to pretend that the Ukies didn’t take horrible losses during this war, because they absolutely did, and about the half of their country is fuked at the very least, with millions displaced, several tens/hundreds thousands of civilians killed/kidnapped and so on.

But there’s also the part where invaders generally take far higher losses than the defenders - except when the US decides to clean house.

I’m just waiting for the explanation that would detail how an invading force that apparently manages a 5:1 K/D both on offense and defense is still messing and getting routed around in the neighbourhood 7 months after launching an invasion. Preceded by almost a full year of build up.
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post 1667874293 09-14-2022, 05:02 PM
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"The sad side of what’s happening now is that over 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers had to die to prove that Ukraine can win and that the West must finally stop hesitating and send massive defense aid to help end this war"


The real number is probably higher than 10k for the “counteroffensive”
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post 1667874353 09-14-2022, 05:04 PM
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ZELENSKY INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENT IN KYIV, NOT SERIOUSLY HURT - RTRS



Biden to send $1 billion to repair Zelensky's motorcade
post 1667874673 09-14-2022, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Nah, Xi already cucked Vova and he's on a shopping spree, he just flew over to Kazakhstan and said that China will do everything to guarantee its security and territorial integrity.

Russia's lower shelf version of NATO, CSTO just went toast in a matter of days after the Ukies' recent success:

- Azerbaijan (former member, basically Turkey under another flag, also just signed a major natural gas export deal with the EU) went full ham on Armenia (CSTO member), latter tried to get help from Russia, but no bueno
- Luka (Belarus) also jumped ship, just posted a tweet about chopping wood so they can help out their "brothers and sisters in Europe", called the invasion a worthless endeavour
- Kazakhstan - rebuking Russia in the early phase of the invasion - just announced that they will suspend their membership in CSTO starting 2023
- border guards of Kyrgyzystan and Tajikistan opened fire on each other

Georgia is also contemplating trying to regain its territories.

Bets are off whether the Jihadis will set up shop in Chechnya or the Han Chinese in Russia will ask for protection.
Nice lies.



Turn on subtitles auto translate english. He explains what they are fighting and why. I told you people the nazi angle is being completely ignored by the west.

He's also absolutely right that it is completely unfair for the west to punish Belarus when they are not belligerents and allowed Minsk to be used for peace talks. Our actions speak volumes about our intentions in the region. Why punish Belarus? We all know why. This is about crippling and destroying Russia and its allies.

Yea yea Lukashenko is a brutal dictator blah blah. Get over it. You're only going to get brutal people over there, as I have explained numerous times.
post 1667874773 09-14-2022, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel

"The sad side of what’s happening now is that over 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers had to die to prove that Ukraine can win and that the West must finally stop hesitating and send massive defense aid to help end this war"


The real number is probably higher than 10k for the “counteroffensive”
Sad AF cuz


Questions is how many more men are Kiev & the West gonna use as cannon fodder?


Rumors say UA has called up almost all of its reserves for the southern offensive. Khokhol lives seem incredibly cheap.
post 1667874873 09-14-2022, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
ZELENSKY INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENT IN KYIV, NOT SERIOUSLY HURT - RTRS



Biden to send $1 billion to repair Zelensky's motorcade
Inb4 khokhols claim "Pootin did it!"



post 1667874893 09-14-2022, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel

"The sad side of what’s happening now is that over 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers had to die to prove that Ukraine can win and that the West must finally stop hesitating and send massive defense aid to help end this war"


The real number is probably higher than 10k for the “counteroffensive”
Their aid is gonna run out real fast after the midterms.
post 1667875083 09-14-2022, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
US has like 40 four star generals. How many of them earned their stars through combat? It's amazing the dumb **** you keep posting. Poots still got you so angry.
Imagine a Minister of Defense having 0 military experience. Not just combat.


Lol u mad. That limp wristed failure must be your dad.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
I said it could happen. I'm not a fortune teller.
Liar. You do fit in well with the Kremlin Crew.

This what you said;
Originally Posted By vatn1k
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62885151

Putin getting Xi's blessing before he drops a couple of deuces on Ukraine. And right after that, Xi will attack Taiwan. This is it bros. Time to clench your angus. Tour is fuking over.
post 1667875243 09-14-2022, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Liar. You do fit in well with the Kremlin Crew.

This what you said;
It's intended as a possibility. No one can tell the future. It's a possibility I fear and think substantial enough to warrant concern given the risks.
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post 1667875903 09-14-2022, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
It's intended as a possibility. No one can tell the future. It's a possibility I fear and think substantial enough to warrant concern given the risks.
Got it.

When you make sweeping claims they are a “possibility” and one you wouldn’t bet on.
post 1667876053 09-14-2022, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Got it.

When you make sweeping claims they are a “possibility” and one you wouldn’t bet on.
Something can be unlikely but still warrant caution if it has catastrophic consequences. It's unlikely you lose if I put 1 bullet into a revolver, spin it, and tell you if you don't die when I shoot, you win $50. Would you play? I wouldn't.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
There have been several Secretaries of Defense in the US without military experience. You served, so you should know that.
Commander in Chiefs for that matter...including our current one.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021
bad sign for Ukraine, most of their regular forces are likely destroyed
lol
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Commander in Chiefs for that matter...including our current one.
Could have had Tulsi bro.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
He meant his substack is two weeks old...

And moderate thoughtful my ass, how the hell call you something like this moderate and thoughtful:

Ukraine assembled a strike group of at least five full brigades, and aimed at a line of contact which had no Russian regular troops at all. The Russian frontline defenses in the region were manned by allied donbas militia and national guardsmen. It seems there was a lone Battalion Tactical Group (BTG) in Izyum, but little else.

It is undeniable, even for Ukrainians celebrating the advance, that Kharkov oblast had been almost completely hollowed out of Russian troops, leaving little more than a screening force. Two important things flow from this. First, that the Ukrainian shock group was in most places advancing against virtually nonexistent resistance. Secondly, more ominously for Ukraine, the low quality units left behind for screening purposes were able to put up good resistance against the Ukrainians - the Rosgvardiya men in Balakliya held out tenaciously for several days before evacuating through a corridor.



Seems like a major oversight to leave one of their most important logistical hubs - Kupyansk - to some ragtag retards who then fold like nothing - sorry, they put up a great fight -, handing over a metric ton of equipment and allowing Izyum to be taken as well which means that they can forget about resupplying the Donbass offense.

Also some moderate and thoughtful bs:




Your last "moderate and thoughtful" source AZmilitary1 was ridiculous as well, but you seem to be doubling down. Well at least we got to see that your source for the 5k Russian and 200k Ukie casualties is just you dividing/multiplying Russian MoD announcements...




Uh huh, so why didn't they hit military installations instead? Why not wipe out logistical hubs, air defenses and whatnot ahead of invasion?
Context is key on all the steam you wasted on rebuttal. I supposed you missed the part where I don't believe them. The moderate perspective of their side, not moderate perspective.

So quick to prove a point when you didn't make one at all in reality. READ POSTS keywords seem to make you foam at the mouth.

I've said repeatedly why they didn't hit too many military targets. But they have hit mil targets, specifically cruise missiles, by the thousands.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
There have been several Secretaries of Defense in the US without military experience. You served, so you should know that.
SecDef is a fukkin civilian you idiot

That Russan clod is a uniformed officer wearing medals.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
It would be far beyond foolish to pretend that the Ukies didn’t take horrible losses during this war, because they absolutely did, and about the half of their country is fuked at the very least, with millions displaced, several tens/hundreds thousands of civilians killed/kidnapped and so on.

But there’s also the part where invaders generally take far higher losses than the defenders - except when the US decides to clean house.

I’m just waiting for the explanation that would detail how an invading force that apparently manages a 5:1 K/D both on offense and defense is still messing and getting routed around in the neighbourhood 7 months after launching an invasion. Preceded by almost a full year of build up.
I believe they are well beyond 5:1. Possibly 7 to 10-1. With 15-20k Russian forces kia 3-5k or so Russian proper.

I'm not saying that to be sensationalist or offensive either. I believe if folks like you knew the truth you wouldn't be for it. No one should besides a sadist.

Ukraine cannot break Russian firing lines. They have not done so a single time. Ukraine dug in since 2014 in complex fortified bunkers and garrisons. Now the are dug in by hand. Every inch is taken by artillery and Ukraine just keeps sending them to die. They have nothing to respond with, they have to take it.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
I said it could happen. I'm not a fortune teller.
China isnt going to invade taiwan. Xi is playing the long game. At the rate the west is collapsing he will be able to absorb taiwan via diplomacy. If he jumps the gun and invades the entire world will respond. You'd see japan decide its time to militarize
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
SecDef is a fukkin civilian you idiot

That Russan clod is a uniformed officer wearing medals.
Gets mad and calls names at an entire different government and structure.

Okay their civilian secdef wears a banana republic unform when appointed. Who really cares?

Kewel. Something is wrong with you. Srs

You get very angry for absolutely no reason. It doesn't help that you're low IQ.
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Originally Posted By memcop
Gets mad and calls names at an entire different government and structure.

Okay their civilian secdef wears a banana republic unform when appointed. Who really cares?

Kewel. Something is wrong with you. Srs

You get very angry for absolutely no reason. It doesn't help that you're low IQ.
LOw iQ.

Memecope devolving to ghostfacedup.

Making fun of your MOD isn't anger, fgt.
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