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post 1667894773 09-15-2022, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Russia is recruiting prisoners with a promise of freedom if they fight for 6 months

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...nd_go_home_in/
Ruskis are desperate as fck.

But Poots knows mass russian mobilization is admitting his "special operation" was a total failure hence him resorting to desperate measures like recruiting prisoners lol.
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Russia is recruiting prisoners with a promise of freedom if they fight for 6 months

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...nd_go_home_in/
This is the line in the sand where I knew Russia were punching through the bottom of the barrel: Conscriptcels.


Conscription is a waste of time because it exists just to train young men to mindlessy obey orders and prepares them for a suicidally dull affair.


For the conscript, it's mostly a waste of time unless he wants the experience to serve professionally or for a later role in an enforcement agency. And conscripts are nowhere near as good as professional military units.


For starters, I don't believe they are permitted near serious equipments or significant assignments because this can all be done by better trained, better motivated and experienced soldiers. Secondly, they are just serving their time so not much reason to excel. Select units are better for specific purposes, and conscripts are for banal tasks.


The better alternative is to allocate more resources into professional services and other means to incentivize signing up.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1667896143 09-15-2022, 06:22 AM
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"There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities."
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post 1667896323 09-15-2022, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
This is the line in the sand where I knew Russia were punching through the bottom of the barrel: Conscriptcels.


Conscription is a waste of time because it exists just to train young men to mindlessy obey orders and prepares them for a suicidally dull affair.


For the conscript, it's mostly a waste of time unless he wants the experience to serve professionally or for a later role in an enforcement agency. And conscripts are nowhere near as good as professional military units.


For starters, I don't believe they are permitted near serious equipments or significant assignments because this can all be done by better trained, better motivated and experienced soldiers. Secondly, they are just serving their time so not much reason to excel. Select units are better for specific purposes, and conscripts are for banal tasks.


The better alternative is to allocate more resources into professional services and other means to incentivize signing up.
Yeah that's also why the Ukrainians could gain so much ground in short time. Conscripts are chit tier soldiers to base a military operation on.

Also elite tier bataillons like the 1st Guards Tank Army, that normally should protect moscow, will also be roughed up if they're just sprinkled in. Russia is just loosing elite Equipment and forces now. They either should go home or try it with their general mobilization. Keep doing this conscript chit will get all their equipment destroyed, which will take decades to compensate. Russia will not be able to respond to shenenigans like armenia/azerbaijan then. Imagine Chechens, Georgians ot Kazachs start some chit in future.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
"There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities."
So basically vatniks have 2 cope defense tactics left:

"muh nukes" cope

"bu buh ruzzia didn't even start yet bro" cope
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Originally Posted By ****inator
So basically vatniks have 2 cope defense tactics left:

"muh nukes" cope

"bu buh ruzzia didn't even start yet bro" cope
Russia is taking on the western world and is still winning

Only one copping is you by spamming this thread with your dumb ass posts
post 1667897153 09-15-2022, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
"There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities."
How's it feel to always be on the wrong/losing side of everything? Is it better or worse than prematurely balding in your 20s?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
"There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities."
And Russia hasn’t come anywhere close to completely destroying Ukraines military. You even said yourself Ukraine most likely has 30-50,000 more soldiers in training right now and will be ready in a couple of months. What exactly has Russia achieved? Securing Mauripol…?
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
Russia is taking on the western world and is still winning

Only one copping is you by spamming this thread with your dumb ass posts
How are they taking on the Western world when there aren't any Western soldiers in Ukraine?
post 1667897643 09-15-2022, 07:12 AM
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post 1667897733 09-15-2022, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By chalup
And Russia hasn’t come anywhere close to completely destroying Ukraines military. You even said yourself Ukraine most likely has 30-50,000 more soldiers in training right now and will be ready in a couple of months. What exactly has Russia achieved? Securing Mauripol…?
It will take another 6 months to train them, and they'll just be killed by russian bombers just like this time
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post 1667897833 09-15-2022, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
How are they taking on the Western world when there aren't any Western soldiers in Ukraine?
What?

Intel and weapons
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In 1941, an arrogant foreign empire made the mistake of underestimating the Russian people. They paid dearly for that mistake. The brutal and harsh leader of the Russians kindled the flame of courage in their hearts and drove them to stand, united against that empire. The nazi threat was defeated only with the sacrifice of the souls of millions of fallen Russians. The cities were drenched in their blood and their country stank of death for decades, but in the end, they prevailed. Today, that nazi threat returns and another arrogant foreign empire has brought it to Russia's border. And once again, another strong and brutal leader has emerged to stand against the evils of fascism. There is one sacred charge for the people of Russia: to destroy nazis. And Vlad the Chad will lead his people to this end, victorious. Russia will not be defeated. The Russian people have fought too hard and for too long to let that happen. Comrade Chadimir is on the right side of history. And when the fog settles, you will have to ask yourself if you stood with him against fascism or with the injustice and prejudice of nazi filth and the arrogant, decadent, and immoral men of the west.



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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
Russia is taking on the western world and is still winning

Only one copping is you by spamming this thread with your dumb ass posts


Another delusional vatnik sniffing too much copium

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post 1667898483 09-15-2022, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
Wincel pls.


Memcop needs exposed. Dude has 0 US service. No way to verify Russian service but he is indeed Russian. Lmao at people sucking down his ' elite military correspondent' role he feigns here.

Dude is a Russian who watches ******** channels. As Luke said...probably not the same memcop that was modded. Dude needs the chit beat out of him. I'd do it but fuk flying to Russia. He can't fly here either because Russians are banned from the 1st world. Memcop is a f4g.

Misc is a gay Russian bodybuilding forum.
This is almost certainly true. Maybe memcop can tell us about policing in the us, in specific terms. Old memcop was never about military stuff - he was a cop. You know, hence the name.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
What?

Intel and weapons
Like what, most of the stuff is from the 80s that was just collecting dust. The most recent stuff is the dozen or so Pzh 2000s, even HIMARS is 80s tech with a twist.

They were literally handed leftovers and what countries could easily spare.

And again, zero NATO soldiers. Losing a boatload of troops and equipment against a foe that isn't even there is hardly "taking them on".
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
Russia is taking on the western world and is still winning

Only one copping is you by spamming this thread with your dumb ass posts
Apparently getting blown to bits by decomissioned, surplus equipment and having your entire front line collapsing is winning. Who knew.
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Vatn1k, youve posted these pics a few times... do you believe that russia has neo nazis or is it just ukraine that has nazis in the region?

edit: lol we get new pics that show russia has none as they removed them all gotcha

good vice western propaganda for you

Great MAGA King status

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Originally Posted By Smithers115
Vatn1k, youve posted these pics a few times... do you believe that russia has neo nazis or is it just ukraine that has nazis in the region?

edit: lol we get new pics that show russia has none as they removed them all gotcha

good vice western propaganda for you
The conservative misc kind of hates on vice cause they do some hard stuff domestically - but in terms of foreign reporting they are amazing. Balls of steel going to the places they do and reporting what they do.

Last one I saw was a North Korean slave logging camp - naturally in Russia.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
The conservative misc kind of hates on vice cause they do some hard stuff domestically - but in terms of foreign reporting they are amazing. Balls of steel going to the places they do and reporting what they do.

Last one I saw was a North Korean slave logging camp - naturally in Russia.
yeah the siberian train doc, was good

**** could you imagine being sent to Siberia to work 6 days a week and sleep in a train car for literal pennys and a handful of rice
Great MAGA King status

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Originally Posted By vatn1k
Can you aware us civs on blue falcon?
Blue Falcon means “buddy fuker” aka piece of chit
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
Vatn1k, youve posted these pics a few times... do you believe that russia has neo nazis or is it just ukraine that has nazis in the region?

edit: lol we get new pics that show russia has none as they removed them all gotcha

good vice western propaganda for you

I know they have them. What Putin cannot destroy, he manages and uses against his foes. For example, it is known that atomwaffen has links to Russian neonazis. There are nazis everywhere. Russia's fascist leaders are controlled opposition. But the difference is Ukraine's nazis are influential within their military and government. The government of Ukraine overtly passed racist and prejudiced laws against Russians. The paramilitary forces that formed in 2014 to defeat the Russian separatists were openly neonazi organizations. The most prominent of these included groups like right sector, c14, and azov. Also, an important thing to note is that when neofascism was rising in Russia (and Poland and Ukraine) in the late 2000's, Russia and Poland cracked down HARD on them. Ukraine...well...we know what happened over there.

Vice also has many documentaries on nazism in Ukraine.

Here, you see the reason Minsk agreements failed repeatedly: the nazis do not listen to the leadership on ceasefires. (Poroshenko, of course, condoned this. And they were just ignoring Zelensky later.)





You don't have to look hard to see open nazism in Ukraine. Swastikas, wolfsangels, death's heads, black suns in plain sight.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
yeah the siberian train doc, was good

**** could you imagine being sent to Siberia to work 6 days a week and sleep in a train car for literal pennys and a handful of rice
I don’t even want to. Too sad to imagine. Probably never going home tbh, and if you try to escape the state slaughters your family.
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
Apparently getting blown to bits by decomissioned, surplus equipment and having your entire front line collapsing is winning. Who knew.
Lmao, retard crew thinks kharkov is 'the entire front line'

Pretty amazing considering its not even part of the donbass

You get enough firewood chopped to survive the winter bruh?
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