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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667917013 09-15-2022, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
At this stage it's very obsiouly Russia versus NATO.

The Ukranian Counter offensive is led by the Americans with alrge merc forces.

Russia will draw them in and crush them. Russia is a antion of chess players... Americans are just retarded.
I don't know where is sarcasm and where is reality in this thread

the Americans share intelligence information and perhaps really help develop a plan for counteroffensives. but where did you see the mercenaries? there are foreign voluntary, but there are very few of them, perhaps 2% maximum
from all armed forces.


If you saw the tactics of the Russians live, you would want to gouge out your eyes.
only a person who knows nothing about military affairs will call it a "game of chess" or "chess players"

in fact, the usual tactics of "scorched earth", and the Russians simply do not have adequate intelligence.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
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I'll do what I can
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
I don't know where is sarcasm and where is reality in this thread

the Americans share intelligence information and perhaps really help develop a plan for counteroffensives. but where did you see the mercenaries? there are foreign voluntary, but there are very few of them, perhaps 2% maximum
from all armed forces.


If you saw the tactics of the Russians live, you would want to gouge out your eyes.
only a person who knows nothing about military affairs will call it a "game of chess" or "chess players"

in fact, the usual tactics of "scorched earth", and the Russians simply do not have adequate intelligence.
War is literally when a bunch of idiots start killing each other. Zelensky should have just implemented Minsk 2. And we should have fuking stayed out of it. Putin is not Hitler. He would not have been emboldened to further expand. The only source of this hostility in the first place is the nazis in Ukraine trying to push Russia out of Sevastopol.

Now there is like 600 billion dollars in property damage, tens of thousands of lives lost, billions of dollars from us to finance this chit, and a divided and suffering world. For what? For fuking what? Ukrainian pride? Fuk this. Seriously. And fuk all of you.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
The Ukraine Foreign legion is always looking for fighters. Let them take their rage out on the mouth breathing vatniks. If orcs are as incompetent as they claim, it should be a turkey shoot. That is of course, if they can pass a preliminary psych eval.
This what I don't understand about the Eurocuck branch of the retard crew. They constantly cry about how Russians are subhuman orcs and take delight in seeing their deaths. This is probably their one chance to be able to kill as many of them as they can without repercussions yet they don't. My guess is behind all the bluster they keep shouting about how Ukraine is going to win they see the losses Ukraine takes on a daily basis and what life is actually like on the front. Easier to stay in the basement and let others do the killing and share their glory instead.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
War is literally when a bunch of idiots start killing each other. Zelensky should have just implemented Minsk 2. And we should have fuking stayed out of it. Putin is not Hitler. He would not have been emboldened to further expand. The only source of this hostility in the first place is the nazis in Ukraine trying to push Russia out of Sevastopol.

Now there is like 600 billion dollars in property damage, tens of thousands of lives lost, billions of dollars from us to finance this chit, and a divided and suffering world. For what? For fuking what? Ukrainian pride? Fuk this. Seriously. And fuk all of you.
Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
This what I don't understand about the Eurocuck branch of the retard crew. They constantly cry about how Russians are subhuman orcs and take delight in seeing their deaths. This is probably their one chance to be able to kill as many of them as they can without repercussions yet they don't. My guess is behind all the bluster they keep shouting about how Ukraine is going to win they see the losses Ukraine takes on a daily basis and what life is actually like on the front. Easier to stay in the basement and let others do the killing and share their glory instead.
They are terrified of being labeled cobelligerents. Remember when Poland wanted to send planes but didn't want to it directly? LMAO

They are all a bunch of scared pussies bashing Russia, but secretly scared chitless of what it might do.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
War is literally when a bunch of idiots start killing each other. Zelensky should have just implemented Minsk 2. And we should have fuking stayed out of it. Putin is not Hitler. He would not have been emboldened to further expand. The only source of this hostility in the first place is the nazis in Ukraine trying to push Russia out of Sevastopol.

Now there is like 600 billion dollars in property damage, tens of thousands of lives lost, billions of dollars from us to finance this chit, and a divided and suffering world. For what? For fuking what? Ukrainian pride? Fuk this. Seriously. And fuk all of you.
sooner or later, this war would have started anyway, even despite Minsk-2. when Russia occupied the Crimea, regardless of the Budapest memorandum, it was a matter of time. according to this logic, Russia simply did not need to poke its nose into the Crimea and Donbass, thereby creating an artificial conflict. we are lucky that the Russian propaganda "we will take Kyiv in 3 days" turned against Putin.
But at the expense of broken destinies, multibillion-dollar damages, this is of course sad and there is no end in sight to this war.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
Well I thought you were talking about Gulag.

How do you explain all the nazi chit from the vids I linked then? That was our own media, not Russian. It's real dude. Ukraine isn't even trying that hard to hide it. Look into it and you will see.

Like I said, our own congress tried to stop funding Azov because it is a neonazi org. We know for a fact Azov is a neo nazi org. We know it was integrated into Ukraine's military. We know there were other fascist orgs as well and that Svoboda, an essentially nazi party, fragmented into various groups. We know that in 2019, Zelensky tried to implement a ceasefire, and these fascists openly defied him and threatened his life if he agreed to peace with Russia.

This is all per US media and Ukrainian media. It's all on record.
From what I've seen it seems that there are some nazis in Ukraine and In the Asov group. I'm curious about who are they trying to exterminate or who is their "enemy" since as far as I know there are hardly minorities or jews in Ukraine, every fascist needs an enemy so who is the enemy according to them?
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
From what I've seen it seems that there are some nazis in Ukraine and In the Asov group. I'm curious about who are they trying to exterminate or who is their "enemy" since as far as I know there are hardly minorities or jews in Ukraine, every fascist needs an enemy so who is the enemy according to them?
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
I wonder is NATO actually sending enlisted soldiers covertly to fight as volunteers? It didn't seem like there were that many western volunteers before this counteroffensive, just a few tiktokers.
They stopped taking the larping war tourist retards so the foreign merc units are now comprised entirely of people that actually know their chit
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
From what I've seen it seems that there are some nazis in Ukraine and In the Asov group. I'm curious about who are they trying to exterminate or who is their "enemy" since as far as I know there are hardly minorities or jews in Ukraine, every fascist needs an enemy so who is the enemy according to them?
I have a couple of friends in Azov. One of them is Armenian, and even because of his nationality, calling him a Nazi is ridiculous.
basically they are all obsessed with Norse mythology, and they believe that everyone of them must knock out at least 1 tank with a crew before death and before getting into Valhalla.

there are more radical battalions, such as, for example, "the kraken" , formed from tough football fans and ex-military convicts.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
They stopped taking the larping war tourist retards so the foreign merc units are now comprised entirely of people that actually know their chit
I'm sure your merry band of conscripted Russian rapists/murderer prisoners will do great on the battlefield, Snizzy.
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Originally Posted By Phil68⏩
I'm sure your merry band of conscripted Russian rapists/murderer prisoners will do great on the battlefield, Snizzy.
They don't need to. All russia is doing is firing artillery, dropping bombs and withdrawing from any combat that isn't a guaranteed win
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After seven months it looks like there's finally something that both sides agree on.

Wincel desperately needs a time-out and some professional help.

What a time to be alive.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
President is a Jew...
So they're not antisemitic nazis then, as I've said before, who is the enemy according to them?
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
I have a couple of friends in Azov. One of them is Armenian, and even because of his nationality, calling him a Nazi is ridiculous.
basically they are all obsessed with Norse mythology, and they believe that everyone of them must knock out at least 1 tank with a crew before death and before getting into Valhalla.

there are more radical battalions, such as, for example, "the kraken" , formed from tough football fans and ex-military convicts.
Ok they seem to be crazy warriors. How is that translated into them being nazis? I'm trying to understand with an open mind why are they called nazis. They take orders from a Jewish president to they don't seem to be anti semitic. There aren't many minorities in Ukraine from them to hate. I get that they obviously hate russians since they're at war with them but why is everyone calling them nazis?

Are they ethnonationalists?
are they trying to erradicate minorities?
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
isnt antisemitic nazi and oxymoron?

Also, just because a jew is president doesnt mean that you cant have nazis in your country, especially a corrupt and fragmented country
Honestly I'm completely unaware, just trying to understand why everyone is calling them nazis. What are their political goals and motivations in particular.
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I have not seen a single Nazi in all my years of life in Ukraine. you should understand one thing, for Russian TV and the population - a Nazi is someone who does not support the Russians, ideas of communism to some extent and the war, the logic is very simple.
their population does not understand that Russian and Ukrainian are two different nationalities, they think in stereotypes from the Soviet Union, especially people who are 50+ years old.
Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
From what I've seen it seems that there are some nazis in Ukraine and In the Asov group. I'm curious about who are they trying to exterminate or who is their "enemy" since as far as I know there are hardly minorities or jews in Ukraine, every fascist needs an enemy so who is the enemy according to them?
people don't understand that azov is a battalion in the armed forces of ukraine. these are not militants or jackass who yesterday gathered in the gateway and organized a gang together.
the enemy, in their opinion, just like for any other Ukrainian soldier is any aggressor, in this case Russia.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Got Vatn1k/Wincel to 43, can somebody push this jackass over the goal line and get that retard into the red where he belongs
Done

I normally like wincel but I'm not a fan of nazi wincel
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
noice



so what are the Azovs and what is their mission statement?
Initially, these were volunteers who organized their battalion in Mariupol from young guys (mainly football fans, wrestlers and other sports organizations with a good physical shape) to fight Moscow-backed pro-Russian rebels who organized the secession of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine in 2014. by the way, they liberated Mariupol and other cities in 2014 from Russian militants.

Like any other military personnel, it's just a very motivated battalion where people are distinguished by their physical form, many of them are very ideological in terms of Norse mythology and belief in their gods.


in other words - ordinary guys from military personnel, but of which Russian propaganda has made devils and expanded it to the whole world.

https://azov.org.ua/statement-of-the...presentatives/
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Honestly I'm completely unaware, just trying to understand why everyone is calling them nazis. What are their political goals and motivations in particular.
Ukraine had a company of soldiers that were neo nazis called azov. From what ive seen they are probably all but dead or captured now.

Its like if the US was at war an the kkk joined the army.


Resident putincuck miscers have used this to paint all of ukraine as nazis though because they have a combined IQ of 48.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Ukraine had a company of soldiers that were neo nazis called azov. From what ive seen they are probably all but dead or captured now.

Its like if the US was at war an the kkk joined the army.


Resident putincuck miscers have used this to paint all of ukraine as nazis though because they have a combined IQ of 48.
almost correctly described. they took 2-3 people out of 1000 from Azov battalion with neo-cyst tattoos portrayed and showed it to their population like its all of Azov members are Nazis and all of Ukrainian are nazis too.
logic and iq really like a monkeys, but it worked with the vast majority of Russians.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
so what are the Azovs
native Russian speakers from Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine

and not in government

How many members of Ukraine's government are members of Azov?

How many members of Ukraine's government are in any sort of Nazi or neo-Nazi party?

Nazism is a political problem. Ukraine has no political Nazism in government.

It's a false excuse used to justify a terrible war of aggression that is being waged for wholly other reasons.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I don't know. This guy says they are just really enthusiastic sportsmen who are into Norse mythology.
this is the best description I could come up with.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
native Russian speakers from Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine

and not in government

How many members of Ukraine's government are members of Azov?

How many members of Ukraine's government are in any sort of Nazi or neo-Nazi party?

Nazism is a political problem. Ukraine has no political Nazism in government.
Nazism, like communism, is banned in Ukraine. if you walk along the square and "zigging", you will get in the face from any passer-by. just as if you go with the hammer and sickle flag, you will also get in the face from any passerby
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
sooner or later, this war would have started anyway, even despite Minsk-2. when Russia occupied the Crimea, regardless of the Budapest memorandum, it was a matter of time. according to this logic, Russia simply did not need to poke its nose into the Crimea and Donbass, thereby creating an artificial conflict. we are lucky that the Russian propaganda "we will take Kyiv in 3 days" turned against Putin.
But at the expense of broken destinies, multibillion-dollar damages, this is of course sad and there is no end in sight to this war.
They went because the Ukrainians tried to push them out of Sevastopol and because Russian Ukrainians were being oppressed.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
native Russian speakers from Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine

and not in government

How many members of Ukraine's government are members of Azov?

How many members of Ukraine's government are in any sort of Nazi or neo-Nazi party?

Nazism is a political problem. Ukraine has no political Nazism in government.

It's a false excuse used to justify a terrible war of aggression that is being waged for wholly other reasons.
Bullchit. Why did they make Bandera's birthday a national holiday? Why did they pass anti Russian laws?
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