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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667934523 09-15-2022, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
The US won't collapse, per se. The American Empire? Absolutely. But, that isn't a bad thing.


It'll be like going back to our roots. Which we should have never left.
Red america may return to americas libertarian roots if theres a national divorce but right now globohomo is pushing to saddle us with an authoritarian state as it bankrupts us
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Just found out that ukraine has been turning over captured or retrieved russian parts like aircraft targeting systems to the US and UK lol.

Fuking cucked.
post 1667935013 09-15-2022, 07:43 PM
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"I thought you were just incompetent but now i know you're completely without morals"

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post 1667935083 09-15-2022, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Just found out that ukraine has been turning over captured or retrieved russian parts like aircraft targeting systems to the US and UK lol.

Fuking cucked.
only parts from multipurpose bomber su35 or other recently modified su series aircraft

Americans are most interested in Russian multirole fifth generation fighter su57 , but unfortunately this novelty has not yet appeared on the battlefield


and the newest Russian anti-aircraft missile system - s400, is complete crap and I don’t think that Americans want to get it to observe then.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Just found out that ukraine has been turning over captured or retrieved russian parts like aircraft targeting systems to the US and UK lol.

Fuking cucked.
Best tactical retreat ever!
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Russia’s Wagner mercenary company ‘recruits cannibal’ for war against Ukraine

https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-...-50270314.html


****ing lol

This gone be good

BTW did PukePissen write this article?
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
there are 5 mistakes in just 2 words, looks like the Portuguese was translating Spanish

its already a meme in our news

to explain the best way - use google chrome, open 1 of those news and right сlick on the mouse, then translate into English

https://nv.ua/ukr/lifestyle/propagan...-50270337.html
https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/529...oy-shkole-foto
https://www.dsnews.ua/ukr/politics/p...5092022-466157


you need to understand that there is a war going on in the country and many of these laws are simply necessary. Whether they were correct or not, time will tell.
Thx. I hope you are right, but I don't trust Zelensky or the govt because of who they glorify. I hope the war ends quickly though.
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos⏩
Russia’s Wagner mercenary company ‘recruits cannibal’ for war against Ukraine

https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-...-50270314.html


****ing lol

This gone be good
hope he will eat a couple of his colleagues on the way to the battlefield

in practice, PMC Wagner has very strict discipline, and even for drinking a bottle of beer you will be severely punished
Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
Thx. I hope you are right, but I don't trust Zelensky or the govt because of who they glorify. I hope the war ends quickly though.
Zelensky has done much more for the country than all former presidents, his rating is now going through the roof among the population and he is simply a national hero despite some of his minuses and inexperience.
yep, hope everything will be alright soon.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
Thx. I hope you are right, but I don't trust Zelensky or the govt because of who they glorify. I hope the war ends quickly though.
this war will end when Russia says so. And Russia will drag this on through the Winter so Europe will feel the pain.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Just found out that ukraine has been turning over captured or retrieved russian parts like aircraft targeting systems to the US and UK lol.

Fuking cucked.
And? China has a lot of US **** that the Afghans sold/gave them when we hauled ass not too long ago.

Fuking cucked.
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post 1667935653 09-15-2022, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Red america may return to americas libertarian roots if theres a national divorce but right now globohomo is pushing to saddle us with an authoritarian state as it bankrupts us
It isn't just Biden. It's a large part of the Republican party. The NeoCons are back.

Many of the posters in this thread prove that.
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post 1667935703 09-15-2022, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
hope he will eat a couple of his colleagues on the way to the battlefield




Zelensky has done much more for the country than all former presidents, his rating is now going through the roof among the population and he is simply a national hero despite some of his minuses and inexperience.
yep, hope everything will be alright soon.
Zelensky has slaughtered thousands upon thousands of his own men for nothing. It doesn't matter what his "rating" is lmao, he has all the propaganda in the world.
post 1667935823 09-15-2022, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Zelensky has slaughtered thousands upon thousands of his own men for nothing. It doesn't matter what his "rating" is lmao, he has all the propaganda in the world.
you won't understand that until the war touches you

with or without Zelensky, with or without American weapons, people would still go to war to fight vs occupiers
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
please stop with this propaganda, Odessa and other things. I don't see the point in even starting an argument here.
I had a bunch of "lovers of the Russian world" in the city even before 2022 and the start of the war, and in general there are a lot of Russians here by nationality.
after the start of the war, all of them seemed to have been replaced and they abruptly turned into "Ukrainians"
also my wife is from kogalym (Siberia) , but she got Ukrainian passport in 2016.


I fully support the change in legislation and now I switch myself to the Ukrainian language in communication. this came to my mind after I spent 2 months in the basement under the bombs of Russian aircraft.

I think the military traitors and politicians will be put in jail. Crimea will receive very wide autonomy where the national languages ​​will be Ukrainian, Russian and Tatar
U claiming the union building fire didn't happen?

We've seen the swastika tats. We've watched the newUkraine (post 2013) troops attacking ethnic russians


Hard to overlook that stuff
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
you won't understand that until the war touches you

with or without Zelensky, with or without American weapons, people would still go to war to fight vs occupiers
How is this the American taxpayers war?


How has this war touched you?
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post 1667936523 09-15-2022, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
They don't need to. All russia is doing is firing artillery, dropping bombs and withdrawing from any combat that isn't a guaranteed win
That's not entirely true. I thought of the Russian elements there was a fraction of the forces fighting. Turns out the line wasn't what we presumed it was (1100k). It means since it's much smaller, much more of the line is PMC DPR.
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post 1667936623 09-15-2022, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
U claiming the union building fire didn't happen?

We've seen the swastika tats. We've watched the newUkraine (post 2013) troops attacking ethnic russians


Hard to overlook that stuff
I'm just tired of telling people about this episode, I spoke with +-100 Russians in Chatroulette about that.
here is just interesting video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGMxmsw9b30

all I can say, if these terrible things had not happened, then Odessa would have become the second Donetsk or Lugansk, second big banana republic.
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
And? China has a lot of US **** that the Afghans sold/gave them when we hauled ass not too long ago.

Fuking cucked.
Wrong. The US **** that was left behind was **** that the US gave to the afghan military, nothing with any sort of secretive tech that could be reverse engineered and used.

The ukrainians however just handed over to the US the in tact targeting systems of russian fighters.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Wrong. The US **** that was left behind was **** that the US gave to the afghan military, nothing with any sort of secretive tech that could be reverse engineered and used.

The ukrainians however just handed over to the US the in tact targeting systems of russian fighters.
Lol...Riiight.

And I thought the Russians has a 3rd rate military, and that's why they are getting their asses kicked? Which is it?
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
you won't understand that until the war touches you

with or without Zelensky, with or without American weapons, people would still go to war to fight vs occupiers
I feel like Zelensky should have made a deal.
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
Lol...Riiight.

And I thought the Russians has a 3rd rate military, and that's why they are getting their asses kicked? Which is it?
Not sure if any of these Nazi posters in this thread have a high school education or GED equivalent

The concept of a thesis and supporting arguments seems foreign to them

Ded fkn Srs
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After war we will have to make mandatory reeducation camps for russians affected by their propaganda before they will be allowed back to normal life. They were brainwashed so bad there is no other choice.
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Originally Posted By SlavaUkrain⏩
After war we will have to make mandatory reeducation camps for russians affected by their propaganda before they will be allowed back to normal life. They were brainwashed so bad there is no other choice.
Uh huh. Camps where they can concentrate? Maybe study some chemistry? Gases? Everyone knows how this goes.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Uh huh. Camps where they can concentrate? Maybe study some chemistry? Gases? Everyone knows how this goes.
Nope. They will study there.
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
It isn't just Biden. It's a large part of the Republican party. The NeoCons are back.

Many of the posters in this thread prove that.
Thats why a national divorce is the answer. Those corrupt neocons are all at the federal level. Its almost as if theres a reason so many founders didnt want a federal governmemt at all
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Ukraine had a company of soldiers that were neo nazis called azov. From what ive seen they are probably all but dead or captured now.

Its like if the US was at war an the kkk joined the army.


Resident putincuck miscers have used this to paint all of ukraine as nazis though because they have a combined IQ of 48.
This is dangerously inaccurate and mitigating. There were 3-5 brigades or a regiment/ Division (depending on your structure picture), essentially 15-20k men. Azov Batalion was it's namesake from its roots in 2014. Currently they are all throughout the current command structure at senior levels since they were the fighting force in the Donbas against the Russians and have combat experience. If you see any little neo nazi insignia, they are around. They won't stand for hiding.

No the Ukrainian government is not remotely close to being nazis. However distancing the facts of the matter from the truth separates people from weighing the facts. Ukraine accepts the ideology due to is power to support the government. You should admit that or get to that point because it is true. Your government wouldn't even train them. Spend 10 seconds to Google them.

Estimates pre-war have Azov at 10-15k.
They were rolled into coalition government to avoid partisan conflict and controlled the non-contested southeast area of Ukraine.
They had an active roll in government local, oblast, federal and ran the fight against the Russians prewar.

I implore anyone to find information on it DATED BEFORE THE MARCH TO UP TO THE WAR. Do not believe me. Please just look it up, even in liberal rags.

We've been watching Azov for years. They train our racist neo nazis here in the US and are designated as an international hate group by the US. They literally trained our very own domestic terrorists here.

I cannot believe this is a discussion. They were 20% of their military and nearly all of their infantry.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
This is dangerously inaccurate and mitigating. There were 3-5 brigades or a regiment/ Division (depending on your structure picture), essentially 15-20k men. Azov Batalion was it's namesake from its roots in 2014. Currently they are all throughout the current command structure at senior levels since they were the fighting force in the Donbas against the Russians and have combat experience. If you see any little neo nazi insignia, they are around. They won't stand for hiding.

No the Ukrainian government is not remotely close to being nazis. However distancing the facts of the matter from the truth separates people from weighing the facts. Ukraine accepts the ideology due to is power to support the government. You should admit that or get to that point because it is true. Your government wouldn't even train them. Spend 10 seconds to Google them.

Estimates pre-war have Azov at 10-15k.
They were rolled into coalition government to avoid partisan conflict and controlled the southeast area of Ukraine.
They had an active roll in government local, oblast, federal and ran the fight against the Russians prewar.

I implore anyone to find information on it DATED BEFORE THE MARCH TO UP TO THE WAR.

We've been watching Azov for years. They train our racist neo nazis here in the US and are designated as an international hate group by the US. They literally trained our very own domestic terrorists here.

I cannot believe this is a discussion
It's also not just azov. There are other nazi groups, and there is also support from civilians. It probably amounts to around 8% or less of Ukraine's population, but they are influential and they are spreading their ideology.

Remember that nazis don't need a majority to take power or influence the government. During Hitler's time, it was only like 30% of Germans who really supported the nazi party, but they had enough manpower to take control and force their will.
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So in 2019 the RAND corporation published a manual on how to antagonize russia to take action



Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
I feel like Zelensky should have made a deal.
He was going to, before the West intervened.
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Lol

I wonder what forces got caught slipping

But when the battlefield is shaped this way.... don't chase.

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