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09-17-2022, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
Regardless of what side ur on, stay safe bro. Wish your family well. I hope this war ends soon. It is bullchit.My father and native brother are in the military, my bro has been there since day one, my father since July, I still haven't been drafted from the military registration office.
That's why I'm here to respond to your stupid posts.
That's why I'm here to respond to your stupid posts.
09-17-2022, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Hehehe heheheI'm gonna take some time off from this subject. I've got too many IRL duties to take care of and focusing on this is not something I should be doing right now. My favorite cow died and I blame myself for focusing on this crap instead of doing my chores as best as I can. Both on my Twitter account and here and elsewhere.
I may start back posting on this at some point but for right now I need to focus on my real world stuff as much as possible.
I still think 'Ukraine will win' and 'Putin's war will be defeated' but it's gonna have to happen without me for right now, and this is going to be a long conflict so my warning for all is to not expect a quick outcome.
Memcop and others - long term conflicts such as this are often not solely decided by brute military power but the political, economic, and social aspects as well. The outcomes of many wars show this to be the case. Good luck everybody and may good things happen instead of bad. My interest in this is and always has been the good people of Ukraine winning their fight against brutal oppression. That is what I have grown to love over these years - the strong people of Ukraine and their desire for a better future. Maybe they will succeed; maybe they won't.
I may start back posting on this at some point but for right now I need to focus on my real world stuff as much as possible.
I still think 'Ukraine will win' and 'Putin's war will be defeated' but it's gonna have to happen without me for right now, and this is going to be a long conflict so my warning for all is to not expect a quick outcome.
Memcop and others - long term conflicts such as this are often not solely decided by brute military power but the political, economic, and social aspects as well. The outcomes of many wars show this to be the case. Good luck everybody and may good things happen instead of bad. My interest in this is and always has been the good people of Ukraine winning their fight against brutal oppression. That is what I have grown to love over these years - the strong people of Ukraine and their desire for a better future. Maybe they will succeed; maybe they won't.
09-17-2022, 02:17 PM
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[QUOTE=dusky99 post_id=1668027443]One of the exhumed bodies was wearing this NSFW SCROLL DOWN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc3So0fXgAIenPg?format=jpg&name=large[/mg][/QUOTE]Looks like ukraine was executing deserters
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc3So0fXgAIenPg?format=jpg&name=large[/mg][/QUOTE]Looks like ukraine was executing deserters
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09-17-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
We have something similar in the US. Not sure the details but sometimes theres an option to enlist instead of go to prison when convictedNo lie, I'd be like "sign me up".
No lie, except the one's with issues following orders, they can make good troops. Probably in good physical condition. Already exposed to violence, not going to be scared easily. Many of them very capable of violence. A lot of motivation because it's not like you are taking them from a better situation.
No lie, except the one's with issues following orders, they can make good troops. Probably in good physical condition. Already exposed to violence, not going to be scared easily. Many of them very capable of violence. A lot of motivation because it's not like you are taking them from a better situation.
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Former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Romania Andrej Marga supports the dismemberment of Ukraine:
I declare with all responsibility that Ukraine is in unnatural limits. It must cede territories: Hungary - Transcarpathia, Poland - Galicia, Romania - Bukovina, Russia - Donbas and Crimea. These are the territories of other countries. We all stick together, there will be conflict. Let's be very clear - until the situation is resolved through talks with America, and with Russia, and with Germany, and with Ukraine, and with China, and until an agreement is reached, there will be no peace in Europe. There will be no peace, democracy will suffer.
I declare with all responsibility that Ukraine is in unnatural limits. It must cede territories: Hungary - Transcarpathia, Poland - Galicia, Romania - Bukovina, Russia - Donbas and Crimea. These are the territories of other countries. We all stick together, there will be conflict. Let's be very clear - until the situation is resolved through talks with America, and with Russia, and with Germany, and with Ukraine, and with China, and until an agreement is reached, there will be no peace in Europe. There will be no peace, democracy will suffer.
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09-17-2022, 02:53 PM
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09-17-2022, 03:20 PM
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Iranian cheap kamikaze drones are a little better than I expected and have even managed to destroy one m777 American artillery howitzer
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias...ps-11663415140
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias...ps-11663415140
09-17-2022, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
Your brother is a member of the propaganda department? Now I understand your postings.In your understanding, war is when every man fights and kills at the battlefield?
In fact, only 5-10% of the male population in Ukraine is now drafted by the military committee and is in the military sphere and maybe only 1-2% are sitting in the front line trenches.
My brother is a military man by profession, a captain in the General Directorate of Intelligence.
My father worked at the customs office on the border with Belarus before the war, but because he graduated from a military university in the 1980s, he was drafted in July and is now in a training center.
I have nothing to do with the military trade, I did not graduate from a military university, I have no military experience - so I still have not been drafted by the local military commissariat.
Man, don't be absurd. You'd better not reply to my posts and shove your opinion up your ass.
In fact, only 5-10% of the male population in Ukraine is now drafted by the military committee and is in the military sphere and maybe only 1-2% are sitting in the front line trenches.
My brother is a military man by profession, a captain in the General Directorate of Intelligence.
My father worked at the customs office on the border with Belarus before the war, but because he graduated from a military university in the 1980s, he was drafted in July and is now in a training center.
I have nothing to do with the military trade, I did not graduate from a military university, I have no military experience - so I still have not been drafted by the local military commissariat.
Man, don't be absurd. You'd better not reply to my posts and shove your opinion up your ass.
Tell him their CGI sucks.
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09-17-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
To be honest, I do not know his duties and what he does. I think drawing pictures , informational and psychological special operations are the work of a few other local special services.Your brother is a member of the propaganda department? Now I understand your postings.
Tell him their CGI sucks.
Tell him their CGI sucks.
But they really work great and much better than the Russian ones, as practice and time have shown.
09-17-2022, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Up to you to do your own research. It is blatant and easily accessible. So far as it "being on us" laying out the facts so we can make informed decisions is how we accept it "being on us." Majority would not support this and the blow back will be significant when the truth makes it out.Yes, although you're doing a pretty terrible job.
What did I tell you about not trying to push the "it's all part of the plan" angle? I didn't tell you because it makes me anxious, but because it's hilariously retarded. Sorry, one does not hand over one of their main logistical hubs and a boatload of equipment "by design". Neither does one attempt to "distract" forces without reaping any benefits from it.
Although if your point is that the Russians intended to act retarded then I guess you're right.
Yes yes, once again it's the evil US that is provoking a war...
Also you can stop lying about me emoting, you merely posted made up numbers that mean nothing.
In a biannual update to its surveys on core political attitudes in Taiwan, National Chengchi University's Election Study Center (ESC) found only 1.3 percent of respondents wanted unification with mainland China "as soon as possible," while a similarly low 5.1 percent desired formal Taiwanese independence at the earliest possibility.
The appeal for both scenarios, which the ESC has tracked since 1994, remain near all-time lows. The latest figures published Tuesday, represented a 0.1 point drop for immediate unification and 0.7 point drop for immediate independence—two extreme viewpoints that tend not to weigh too heavily on the democratic island's regular elections.
For the past two decades, the majority of respondents have favored some form of the "status quo," the survey showed. Taiwan, now a semi-recognized state, has been ruled separately from the People's Republic of China on the mainland since the PRC was founded in Beijing in 1949.
https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-chin...olling-1724546
Here's a study about the last 28 years, knock yourself out.
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963
Should be our problem then.
Yes yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukie soldiers have died and only 5k Russians with 10k Wagner, we know. Quite tiresome how you still try to push this utter bullcrap.
You're quite chit but then also quite obvious at pushing Kremlin crap about vague threats and how everything is going according to the plan. Fuking pathetic that you are still physically incapable of admitting even a single minor Russian blunder.
What did I tell you about not trying to push the "it's all part of the plan" angle? I didn't tell you because it makes me anxious, but because it's hilariously retarded. Sorry, one does not hand over one of their main logistical hubs and a boatload of equipment "by design". Neither does one attempt to "distract" forces without reaping any benefits from it.
Although if your point is that the Russians intended to act retarded then I guess you're right.
Yes yes, once again it's the evil US that is provoking a war...
Also you can stop lying about me emoting, you merely posted made up numbers that mean nothing.
In a biannual update to its surveys on core political attitudes in Taiwan, National Chengchi University's Election Study Center (ESC) found only 1.3 percent of respondents wanted unification with mainland China "as soon as possible," while a similarly low 5.1 percent desired formal Taiwanese independence at the earliest possibility.
The appeal for both scenarios, which the ESC has tracked since 1994, remain near all-time lows. The latest figures published Tuesday, represented a 0.1 point drop for immediate unification and 0.7 point drop for immediate independence—two extreme viewpoints that tend not to weigh too heavily on the democratic island's regular elections.
For the past two decades, the majority of respondents have favored some form of the "status quo," the survey showed. Taiwan, now a semi-recognized state, has been ruled separately from the People's Republic of China on the mainland since the PRC was founded in Beijing in 1949.
https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-chin...olling-1724546
Here's a study about the last 28 years, knock yourself out.
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963
Should be our problem then.
Yes yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukie soldiers have died and only 5k Russians with 10k Wagner, we know. Quite tiresome how you still try to push this utter bullcrap.
You're quite chit but then also quite obvious at pushing Kremlin crap about vague threats and how everything is going according to the plan. Fuking pathetic that you are still physically incapable of admitting even a single minor Russian blunder.
Yes Russians are retarded and selling 1 million barrels of oil a day at 100$ a barrel. Driving it down to 50, 25$ will be more effective than pretending this is working.
Casualties are probably closer to 3k but they are estimates. PMC around the same. The rest are probably majority DPR.
Blunder? I spoke to many so far. Russia fkn up isn't the point. They will but this isn't a game of football. This is a slaughter. There is nothing Ukraine can "win."
You should at least find frontline stories from your football team since your viewing this as a team sport. This no different than our type of fighting in Afghanistan only closer with no chance of oppositional response.
There is no conspiracy, it's pure sensationalism. Kharkov probably being the nail in the coffin for Ukraine. As youre convinced it was significant to the war, you've completely bought the narrative.
Eta: there are thousands of these videos. Russia buries them by the tens of thousands as they slowly advance.
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09-17-2022, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yep, there are plenty of them. Some people do really well under a structured environment. The CO's will know who they are because like a lot of people in the military, they tend to get in trouble on leave.We have something similar in the US. Not sure the details but sometimes theres an option to enlist instead of go to prison when convicted
09-17-2022, 05:13 PM
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It's always interesting to see how much is devoted to the social propaganda aimed at the West and who drinks the cool aid.
Propaganda is almost always fascinating, but I do wonder how long the narrative is going to hold up. Yes, Ukraine make some advances, at a huge cost to them. How long can they realistically do this though?
As far as provocations are concerned, the EU and the US have dangled the carrot at some of these former soviet bloc nations with clear intent. The NATO expansion eastward is so overtly a provocation, regardless of whether NATO itself is a defensive alliance. It boggles my mind in all honesty.
Ukraine has been a mess for a long time now, and the cope from some regarding Eastern Ukraine in particular is utterly devoid from reality.
There's so much risk here and for nothing that will benefit the West at large. Buffer states were buffer states for a reason.
Propaganda is almost always fascinating, but I do wonder how long the narrative is going to hold up. Yes, Ukraine make some advances, at a huge cost to them. How long can they realistically do this though?
As far as provocations are concerned, the EU and the US have dangled the carrot at some of these former soviet bloc nations with clear intent. The NATO expansion eastward is so overtly a provocation, regardless of whether NATO itself is a defensive alliance. It boggles my mind in all honesty.
Ukraine has been a mess for a long time now, and the cope from some regarding Eastern Ukraine in particular is utterly devoid from reality.
There's so much risk here and for nothing that will benefit the West at large. Buffer states were buffer states for a reason.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
supports Putin's War of aggressionUkraine on a political assassination spree today.
Warmongers, you okay with this?
Warmongers, you okay with this?
is the most ardent agent of Putin's war propaganda
calls others warmongers
stay classy cuz
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
He can't expand the war anymore than he has.At the same time, not expanding the war is letting Ukraine hang in. It's a tight rope.
He's used every rational option and military capability he has.
Even the most minimal stated goal of taking over Donbas is a fail.
09-17-2022, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Lmao, vatnikmod having a meltdown. Want some Bitcoins to fund your yandex translate subscription?Zero sources, zero rebuttals, trust me bro. Here's a wall of text about absolutely nothing.
What an absolute fuking clown.
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Source for that? Of course not.Ukraine on a political assassination spree today.
Warmongers, you okay with this?
Warmongers, you okay with this?
Let's also ignore the two dozen or so Russian CEOs and FSB spooks who committed suicide along with their families in the last couple of months.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
There is absolutely no need to lie.supports Putin's War of aggression
is the most ardent agent of Putin's war propaganda
calls others warmongers
stay classy cuz
is the most ardent agent of Putin's war propaganda
calls others warmongers
stay classy cuz
I in no way support this war by Russia and want it to stop.
But unlike a child realize the right decisions that have yet to be made.
Hey Luke, what do you estimate the war dead to be?
Apparently you think it's worth it. Tell us what the value of human life is to you.
Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Expand? Do tell lol.He can't expand the war anymore than he has.
He's used every rational option and military capability he has.
Even the most minimal stated goal of taking over Donbas is a fail.
He's used every rational option and military capability he has.
Even the most minimal stated goal of taking over Donbas is a fail.
I don't pretend to know what Russians are doing or even want. I can only watch the map move and battles fought. I love how you attempt to paint this picture. It's hilarious.
You basically want me to fall in line with a narrative. Again, while sympathetic to Ukrainians, there is no need for the death, especially if Russia cranks this things up. It could be exponentially worse than it already is.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I've maintained from the beginning that Russia is a modern and professional military.I think it's pretty obvious by now that you would rather be captured by Russia than vice-versa. Even Western media is struggling to cast the Russians as pillagers and rapists. I'm actually kinda of shocked by the constraint shown by the Russians, not just in battlefield tactics, but also the limited info coming from their side. Thought we would see more cell phone vids, soldiers getting drunk or acting like clowns. Pretty quiet for the most part. I guess Putin has to sell the war to his allies in Asia and the Middle East, and undisciplined behavior might spook these other countries. At the same time, not expanding the war is letting Ukraine hang in. It's a tight rope.
It's weird that saying that makes me an advocate of Russia. We are in such a troubling time in history. They'd rather some strangers die far away than understand what that means.
I really don't get it.
You're about to see another Bucha like media sprint. Russia buries war dead in captured areas.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Flopping like a fish after being roasted I see.Lmao, vatnikmod having a meltdown. Want some Bitcoins to fund your yandex translate subscription?
What an absolute fuking clown.
Source for that? Of course not.
Let's also ignore the two dozen or so Russian CEOs and FSB spooks who committed suicide along with their families in the last couple of months.
What an absolute fuking clown.
Source for that? Of course not.
Let's also ignore the two dozen or so Russian CEOs and FSB spooks who committed suicide along with their families in the last couple of months.
Cute.
What does Russia murdering ceo's have to do with Ukraine assassinating politicians?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-09-16/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...105100928.html
https://odessa-journal.com/deputy-ma...ied-berdyansk/
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I don't think the Ukrainians, and their cucks here in the West...especially the NeoCons who seem to be creeping up from the shadows again...haven't thought this out.
Yes, the US govt will keep sending our money to one of the most corrupt nations on the planet. That's a political problem that we can't fix as US citizens. The left and right love war, and that's that. We don't control the purse.
What I will absolutely say 100% will happen, is you'll get no cannonfodder from our kids. I mean, sure...you'll get the transgendered supply Sgts, and Moesha admin clerk, but enlisting new combat recruits? Nope.
20+ years of dumb foreign wars that myself and friends have been involved in have woken up a large percentage of the population who used to be...join the grunts, do your duty.
That's dead. US military is at 33% recruiting goals right now. The official word is that it's because Americans are too fat. Nope. Americans are sick of war.
So, go ahead and start sending kids off to fight in Ukraine, because that is coming, and you are going to start seeing a lot of non blue hair, far left, whatever other anti war stereotype you can think of marching, and not letting their kids enlist.
Bet on it.
Yes, the US govt will keep sending our money to one of the most corrupt nations on the planet. That's a political problem that we can't fix as US citizens. The left and right love war, and that's that. We don't control the purse.
What I will absolutely say 100% will happen, is you'll get no cannonfodder from our kids. I mean, sure...you'll get the transgendered supply Sgts, and Moesha admin clerk, but enlisting new combat recruits? Nope.
20+ years of dumb foreign wars that myself and friends have been involved in have woken up a large percentage of the population who used to be...join the grunts, do your duty.
That's dead. US military is at 33% recruiting goals right now. The official word is that it's because Americans are too fat. Nope. Americans are sick of war.
So, go ahead and start sending kids off to fight in Ukraine, because that is coming, and you are going to start seeing a lot of non blue hair, far left, whatever other anti war stereotype you can think of marching, and not letting their kids enlist.
Bet on it.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
1)How much US taxpayer money is Zelensky giving you to post;Yes, although you're doing a pretty terrible job.
What did I tell you about not trying to push the "it's all part of the plan" angle? I didn't tell you because it makes me anxious, but because it's hilariously retarded. Sorry, one does not hand over one of their main logistical hubs and a boatload of equipment "by design". Neither does one attempt to "distract" forces without reaping any benefits from it.
Although if your point is that the Russians intended to act retarded then I guess you're right.
Yes yes, once again it's the evil US that is provoking a war...
Also you can stop lying about me emoting, you merely posted made up numbers that mean nothing.
In a biannual update to its surveys on core political attitudes in Taiwan, National Chengchi University's Election Study Center (ESC) found only 1.3 percent of respondents wanted unification with mainland China "as soon as possible," while a similarly low 5.1 percent desired formal Taiwanese independence at the earliest possibility.
The appeal for both scenarios, which the ESC has tracked since 1994, remain near all-time lows. The latest figures published Tuesday, represented a 0.1 point drop for immediate unification and 0.7 point drop for immediate independence—two extreme viewpoints that tend not to weigh too heavily on the democratic island's regular elections.
For the past two decades, the majority of respondents have favored some form of the "status quo," the survey showed. Taiwan, now a semi-recognized state, has been ruled separately from the People's Republic of China on the mainland since the PRC was founded in Beijing in 1949.
https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-chin...olling-1724546
Here's a study about the last 28 years, knock yourself out.
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963
Should be our problem then.
Yes yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukie soldiers have died and only 5k Russians with 10k Wagner, we know. Quite tiresome how you still try to push this utter bullcrap.
You're quite chit but then also quite obvious at pushing Kremlin crap about vague threats and how everything is going according to the plan. Fuking pathetic that you are still physically incapable of admitting even a single minor Russian blunder.
What did I tell you about not trying to push the "it's all part of the plan" angle? I didn't tell you because it makes me anxious, but because it's hilariously retarded. Sorry, one does not hand over one of their main logistical hubs and a boatload of equipment "by design". Neither does one attempt to "distract" forces without reaping any benefits from it.
Although if your point is that the Russians intended to act retarded then I guess you're right.
Yes yes, once again it's the evil US that is provoking a war...
Also you can stop lying about me emoting, you merely posted made up numbers that mean nothing.
In a biannual update to its surveys on core political attitudes in Taiwan, National Chengchi University's Election Study Center (ESC) found only 1.3 percent of respondents wanted unification with mainland China "as soon as possible," while a similarly low 5.1 percent desired formal Taiwanese independence at the earliest possibility.
The appeal for both scenarios, which the ESC has tracked since 1994, remain near all-time lows. The latest figures published Tuesday, represented a 0.1 point drop for immediate unification and 0.7 point drop for immediate independence—two extreme viewpoints that tend not to weigh too heavily on the democratic island's regular elections.
For the past two decades, the majority of respondents have favored some form of the "status quo," the survey showed. Taiwan, now a semi-recognized state, has been ruled separately from the People's Republic of China on the mainland since the PRC was founded in Beijing in 1949.
https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-chin...olling-1724546
Here's a study about the last 28 years, knock yourself out.
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963
Should be our problem then.
Yes yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukie soldiers have died and only 5k Russians with 10k Wagner, we know. Quite tiresome how you still try to push this utter bullcrap.
You're quite chit but then also quite obvious at pushing Kremlin crap about vague threats and how everything is going according to the plan. Fuking pathetic that you are still physically incapable of admitting even a single minor Russian blunder.
2)If you believe so much in the struggle, why aren't you picking up a rifle and going over there?
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09-17-2022, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Your criteria for 'support' is batchit insane thoughsupports Putin's War of aggression
is the most ardent agent of Putin's war propaganda
calls others warmongers
stay classy cuz
is the most ardent agent of Putin's war propaganda
calls others warmongers
stay classy cuz
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09-17-2022, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Sounds very democrat partyYour criteria for 'support' is batchit insane though
I knew he was crazy but shouting down and calling names at an opposing view point that is beyond sensible is especially cowardly. Maybe he'll put his estimates on record so we can remind on another when this shakes out who is to be shamed.
But a dead cow fuking hillbilly that refuses to take his medication cannot resist he and other liberals story telling.
Homeboy truly thinks he's on a mission from God or his country to be involved in this. He really thinks he's participating. Its pretty disturbing.
I hope he gets well but he'll get no love from me until he takes a break and gets his chit together. At minimum and though he's a weird fuk, he's still a miscer and all of you here, to include him should appreciate my style of moderation.
You've known much worse. Now every opinion gets a say (nearly).
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09-17-2022, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Yea, were still waiting for Putin to "take the gloves off" for 7 months nowhe absolutely can, the more knuckle headed amongst the Russian federation has been calling for it. Kadyrov made a big stink about it causing Putin to call him in to explain why the fuk he is doing what he is doing.
I know you dont want to see the complexity, and why Russia went with a SMO vs a declaration of war or an anti-terrorism operation. There are politics at play at every level. You think Russia is incapable of putting Ukraine permanently in the dark? You think they couldnt try to decapitate? Smh...
I know you dont want to see the complexity, and why Russia went with a SMO vs a declaration of war or an anti-terrorism operation. There are politics at play at every level. You think Russia is incapable of putting Ukraine permanently in the dark? You think they couldnt try to decapitate? Smh...
Whats he waiting for?
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09-17-2022, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
Why do you want that? Why would you even desire to test the theory?Yea, were still waiting for Putin to "take the gloves off" for 7 months now
Whats he waiting for?
Whats he waiting for?
This is a serious question and I'd like to understand what percentage of effort and equipment you think is being throw at this?
Do you think that percentage increase can be held by Ukraine?
I've kind of done this for a while and already see what I've been saying all along which is Ukraine not being able to handle what is currently happening. It's bad. Real bad. It's an even more devious strategy than I thought before. He just wants to fight at that line. A fight Ukraine hasn't been able to have any success with. The government behind him wants more action but that would end the war too soon. In the meantime, more troops to the line.
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
on the other hand people take half of what is actually happening and the truth as propaganda. A prime example is the same bucha and the 800+ people killed by the Russian occupiers, some people here call it staged, despite the fact that there are plenty of surviving local witnesses who saw it all with their own eyes.It's always interesting to see how much is devoted to the social propaganda aimed at the West and who drinks the cool aid.
Propaganda is almost always fascinating, but I do wonder how long the narrative is going to hold up. Yes, Ukraine make some advances, at a huge cost to them. How long can they realistically do this though?
As far as provocations are concerned, the EU and the US have dangled the carrot at some of these former soviet bloc nations with clear intent. The NATO expansion eastward is so overtly a provocation, regardless of whether NATO itself is a defensive alliance. It boggles my mind in all honesty.
Ukraine has been a mess for a long time now, and the cope from some regarding Eastern Ukraine in particular is utterly devoid from reality.
There's so much risk here and for nothing that will benefit the West at large. Buffer states were buffer states for a reason.
Propaganda is almost always fascinating, but I do wonder how long the narrative is going to hold up. Yes, Ukraine make some advances, at a huge cost to them. How long can they realistically do this though?
As far as provocations are concerned, the EU and the US have dangled the carrot at some of these former soviet bloc nations with clear intent. The NATO expansion eastward is so overtly a provocation, regardless of whether NATO itself is a defensive alliance. It boggles my mind in all honesty.
Ukraine has been a mess for a long time now, and the cope from some regarding Eastern Ukraine in particular is utterly devoid from reality.
There's so much risk here and for nothing that will benefit the West at large. Buffer states were buffer states for a reason.
And do you really think that the Ukrainian side has suffered far more casualties than the Russian side, fighting a mostly defensive war with a large number of experienced troops for 8 months? Ukraine have enough manpower for many years to fight for a long time to come, here everything depends on the economic and military support of the west. yes, russia has more manpower and they can fight for a long time, too. but Putin is afraid of total mobilization, because his domestic approval ratings will fall, and his army will be unmotivated.
Do you think Putin is really pissed off about the Nato expansion? He doesn't give a fukk about it. it was just a game for russia's internal audience, and the war was designed to get a quick piece of Ukrainian territory and get 146% of the vote in the next election. Nothing else raises the rating and internal trust of the people like a quick victory over evil. But something didn't go according to plan...
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
i was of the same opinion for a long time, for example after the announcement of the counter-offensive in the Kherson direction and nothing happened then, except for 2-3 villages taken in a month, there were no more successes. but then there was a sudden attack in the Kharkiv direction, where in 2-3 days the Russians simply escaped, almost without engaging in combat and leaving all ammunition and huge amounts of Soviet equipment just abandoned in the middle of the field. at least it inspires hope...I've kind of done this for a while and already see what I've been saying all along which is Ukraine not being able to handle what is currently happening. It's bad. Real bad. It's an even more devious strategy than I thought before. He just wants to fight at that line. A fight Ukraine hasn't been able to have any success with. The government behind him wants more action but that would end the war too soon. In the meantime, more troops to the line.
also i don't see any more trump cards up Putin's sleeve as escalating the conflict and accelerating the process on the battlefield other than announcing total mobilization or using tactical/strategic nuclear weapons
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