Yeh i remember you said they'd be ineffective. I had a good laugh.

Yeah but he is Zuggie and he knows who the fuk I was talking to and in that same post.

I never said that one time. It is a very effective weapon because it is primitive.

You, like others, should read my posts as opposed to making assumptions.

I don't think so. I'm sure Wincel is very confused rn.

Yeh having suicide drones that have dual attacks are primitive.

Just another example of arrogant Americans underestimating their opponenets.

Regardless of your idiot opinion... these drones will be a game changer and will wreak havoc on the Americans led forces.


"In his brigade’s operational area alone, the Iranian drones have destroyed two 152-mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, as well as two BTR armored infantry vehicles, he said."

Your so serious lol

Yes these are great primitive weapons. They are small engines and medium drone bodied aircraft. Your Horse chit about them being of superior technology is laughable. What you meant to say in your 'poverty finally got a leg up' moment is that that the coding on them is excellent in the small weapon strategy sense. The weapons can be designed to strike a target and can be disabled to receive further signals, even by the poverty user.

The introduction of the weapon is based on timing, not technology as the battlefield is already set. There is a reason they are coming out now and not before. They are much cheaper than cruise missiles but just as effective.

This is the thing that pre-det is for. Expect to start seeing "cope-cages" on Ukrainian Cav and other armor. I put predet on everything I ever could, even if all I had was plywood.

Will be interesting to see if Iran can keep building them fast enough and if Russia will use them in true "swarm" functionality. 15-20 drones coming at you is going to be hard to shoot all of them down even if they are using weed wacker engines.

We have jammers that we have given Ukraine. Drones aren't as great as people think.

Defenseless against jammers. They are taking in and receiving no signal

Artillery is really the game changer. Always has been.

They can be defeated with cope cages. They are essentially smaller EFP devices that are flying. If they get detonated 3 feet from the striking surface I imagine they are small enough to hit reactionary armor and bounce off.

It will be ironic to see it but they will have tons of impromptu "copecaging" all over their vehicles.

Looking forward to a lot of suicide blasts targeting Ucranian Nazis

Hehehe

Have you heard yourself.

You have a unrealistic view of your knwoldge of warfare and technology. This is not a primitive drone.

Iran has proven itself to be one of the world's drone powers. It was very funny for me to watch Americans describing how they will be ineffective, we already known they're battle tested and would therefore have an impact in this theatre.

It was only a matter off time until the reports came in. The best thing about this engagement is that these weapons can be used to directly target americans and American assets.

The reason why these weapons are coming out are nothing to do with timing. It's down to Russia's ineffectiveness to gain aerial supremacy and their ability for tarrgeted bombing. Had they done that they would have less requirement for drones. With that said, Iranian drones can out perform Russian fighter jets in an attritional war format.

The strength of Iranain drones is that they are disproportionally cheaper than the American tech they are combatting. This is the comparative advantage. Whetehr they ar technically superior or not is hard to judge. Western powers seem heavily focused on high tech high cost drones, whereas Iran (and turkey) are focusing on highly effective but lower tech cheaper drones.

Modern warfare is tilting the balance towards the lower tech cheaper but highly effecive drones, such as the TB-2 and the Iranian drones classes. Thats what we have learnt from the Syrian war, Azerbaijan/Armenia war and it's becomign apparent in the Ukraine war.

Cope cages have limtied effectiveness and who says armour will be the primary target for Iranian Drones. I suspect artillery will be the primary target.

You're very confused on what this is. It's great weapon since it is a blend of semi modern and primitive technology. It will be extremely effective due to conditions. If you think counter battery systems cannot see these, then I'm not the one lost. Predetination and reinforcement of positions to that same effect renders them a slow mortar round. Adjustments will be made eventually

I don't think we're saying much differently. You're just very proud of your poverty ingenuity

I think you are lsot though my friend.

I think the opposite will be the case. the American supplied HIMARS will become one of the key targets these drones will target. These drones will be cthe counter battery and not the other way round.


It seems like Reddit is also slowly coming to the inconvenient truith much to their chargrin:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...se_of_iranian/

Himars could have been taken out by a cruise missile in the same manner if they could find it.

I'm not sure why you're convince your poverty delta winge can fare much better against satellite and advanced targeting systems.

You're sending a weedehacker after that bitch. It's not going to loiter undetected and uncontested waiting on a himar truck to fire away from the line.

The tool will be launched and crashed near immediately.

I don't and will never care what twinks at reddit say. That's probably the worst axis of evil post I've ever seen. You're the worst terrorist inspiring fear that I've ever met. Lmao wtf

It might seem quiet now, but we’re just preparing – Zelenskyy

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/18/7368015/


I think too many Ucranian Nazis have perished in 'battle'

So ukrainian forces crossed the oksil river and keep up their offensive in eastern Ukraine
I thought oksil river was the new defense line of the ruskies?

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrain...ut-2022-09-18/

Lmao during their tactical regrouping, moscals also left behind a T-90M. Russia is best arms supplier now, take note NATO.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...m_source=share

HIMARS practise a shoot and scoot strategy which improves their survivability. Cruise missiles haave not appeared effective tech against them.

I think you're struggling to come to terms with realities of modern warfare and the chipping away of American supremacy on the battlefield. Everywhere you will go going forward will feature new drones that can hit you with ease. This war is a proving ground to optimise tech and develop strategies to beat NATO forces.

Americans are the terrorist. America has spent the last 50 years starting wars all over the world and bombing people with drones. Now your wreathing like a mad dog, because China is overtaking you. It's pathetic.

Guess we will have to target Iran with next bombing.

Yes, you said it for twenty years, but now it is we who bomb you.

Iran, India, China, Pakistan, and Russia should just squish their beef and bro out. They could completely dominate trade.

All these nations know that they can be impacted severly by American sanctions.

The Americans grew weak in executing war and so shifted to a strategy of sanctioning their opponenets. They however didn't realise that this set alarm bells among other third aprty countries who realised that they could be targeted by them in the future.

This has pushed nations together who realise they need to develop alternative systems to ensure their growth and development.

The US is a declining power; whereas China is ascendant. Historically this has led to conflict. However, the Americans are very stupid and instead started a war with Russia which will only benefit their primary rival (China). I think the Americans watched too many 80's movies.

If we sanction you, you guys could just move in on whatever areas we were doing and replace us. China and India can eventually do everything we do. It will just take some time to get set up. Correct. They did. You'd be amazed at how stupid our people are. We only sustain ourselves by stealing from your countries. Our people have a delusional god complex. They need to be humbled. It is a big world, and we are only around 4% of it. For too long, we have ignored the voices of the oppressed and have created conflict where peace was possible.

Lmao pls China's economy, birth rate and housing market is crashing and their KP is in big trouble rn. Hence they're trying to distract by threatening Taiwan.
Iran and India will keep being chitholes and lol at thinking those iranian weedwhacker engined drones will make some kind of impact on the war.

Are vatniks coping now with "muh china"? New field on the vatnik bingo board then.

No. Iran entered the chat with his smooth brain Persian drone talk. He thinks the world will tremble at his model airplane driven by lawn equipment motors. Apparently they figured out how to "set it and forget it." Like our common kitchen counter products.

While we are left to temporarily scramble for immediate physical defense due to the low technology, he doesn't realize the advancement of drone detection (we use counter battery systems to detect approach and is an existing battlefield staple) and deteat tools are in the range of many.

Where it intersects with you is your nonsense and misunderstanding of "copecages." You're about to see tons of Ukrainian armor wrapped in 3 ft metal fencing to predetinate the explosions before hitting the body of the vehicle.

Honestly the drone engine is pretty rad, 4 cylinder air cooled flat plane engine with velocity stacks? MIRIN that 1960's formula technology



at the end of the day, the engine in a kamikaze drone probably means sweet **** all compared to its software and collection instruments

Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have finally banned all moskals from entering. They won't be let in, even if they have visas from other countries. Fukkin lol


Lysychansk is now also liberated. Onto the next moskali slaughter.



Watching the dictator of russistan explaining himself like some cuck to punjabis is hilarious. I don't understand moskals motivation to expand westwards when all their friends are in asia

On romanian border the russian tourists already got denied with a "fukk you russian warship" stamp in their passport


Also in b4 tactical retreat from Luhansk.