You have to realize people say different things and mean different things.

For example, Ive heard 1000 times from people I'll say "I hate myself because im short and ugly". And then they say ' you have to love youself bro'.

thats a way different definition of 'love yourself' than you are trying to use. Just say what you actually mean you fuking retard. And yes, that is a different meaning in the exact same context of women and dating. So dont bullchit and say I cant understand the context.in the exact same context of women and dating, ive heard people say 'love yourself' to mean exactly how I understood it originally.

If you have really deeply-rooted problems, no, a girl will not solve your problems. Nor should you expect that out of them. Sometimes people are too trapped by their own demons and having a GF is only a bandaid fix. These problems will unravel themselves over time. The reprieve you feel is temporary unless you really are with somebody who is marriage material. But even marriages fall apart.


I realized as well too that being with the wrong woman, as cliche as it sounds will make you feel MORE lonely and add to your problems. It's true. It's easy to look at people in relationships but you don't know their circumstances. Half these people in relationships are probably better off and happier on their own. How many of these people are actually with a girl that adds to their life? How many of these people are dealing with divorce, cheating, trust issues? That's way worse than being alone.


A lot of the time you waste on women is honestly better served working on your health, hobbies, getting money and focusing on your relationships with your family and your few close friends in your inner circle. If you have these in order and a healthy relationship with yourself, you realize that you don't necessarily need a woman to justify your own happiness. And funny enough you'll probably have more success with women. The right woman will only add to it, but at the same time you know the wrong one will detract from it and make you miserable and detract from everything that you worked for.

Don't chase. You can lead the dance but ultimately it takes two to tango. Don't get too attached. If they don't reciprocate your efforts, treat you with respect, bring you joy or add any value, cut them off quickly, entirely and move on.



I think most people suffer in their own heads at the thought of not having a girlfriend, rather than actually not having a girlfriend. Because the thought of it evokes feelings that something is wrong with them, and they feel inadequate and that they are incapable of being loved by the opposite sex, undesired or treated with kindness. That's more of an unhealthy relationship with yourself. If you truly worked on yourself first, you would be more confident in your self-worth and value and realize that women are not the be-all, end all of your existence and you don't need them to be happy. Your life doesn't and shouldn't revolve around women. And that most women really aren't worth the baggage they bring and siphon the life out of you. Only people who lack experience and have deep self-esteem issues believe a woman will solve all their problems. Not to mention, putting all your eggs in one basket in the form of a woman to solve your problems is a one way trip to hell on earth if the chit goes south. It'll feel like bliss when it goes well but scorched earth when it doesn't. Nowadays with divorce rates, it seems like it's a losing proposition to take. Any man that knows his value will never put pussy on a pedestal and be desperate for women to love them. Just fuking lol. They are just like anybody else, except they have a vagina.

thread full of men who get no pussy and admit it

thread full of men who get no pussy and cope that they do

old crusted, and torn, infertile foid seeking attention on male issues

Being alone is alright srs.
Like i know i can make a friend/pick up a sloot if i put my mind to it, so it doesnt bother me.
I might go weeks not seeing friends & just facetiming.
Months spent without pussy no problem

But if i didnt believe i could do all that chit etc. Id be miserable. Just like i would in other things id like to pursue but cant.
The uncertainty is the problem not the women itself. U brahs aint thinking deep enough

No, we're all speaking the same language here and for someone who always shows up in these threads you would know this. We're not retards and neither are you, you're simply choosing to be prickly and weird.

No, we're all speaking the same language here and for someone who always shows up in these threads you would know this. We're not retards and neither are you, you're simply choosing to be prickly and weird.

The same advice given for years.

Sometimes I wonder if he's choosing to be that way or is so lacking in self awareness that he can't see what he's doing.

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On the misc alone in these very same threads in the very same context people have meant it how I interpreted it.

I've had these conversations 1 million times and they didnt mean improve yourself or whatever bullchit you apparently mean. They literally mean to love and feel good about yourself, because I say all the time how much I hate myself and their response is to 'love youself' which clearly does not mean what you are trying to say it means.

So great, if you mean it entirely differently, fine, good to know. but dont act like im pulling this out of my azz or crazy for thinking it meant the same thing its meant in conversations like this for years.

Sometimes I wonder if he's choosing to be that way or is so lacking in self awareness that he can't see what he's doing.

Idk, you could make it

You hit the barbers? Gotta get a clean cut g.
Some good swagger. None of that hippie chit, with the long coats & scarfs bullchit.
Effortless but clean as fk, shredded bad mother****er. Anybody like that is 1st pickings on last call.

and not the right race.

Nice find, srs. Saved for later so I can read the rest of the article in the link.

dude no. Too short, and ugly, and not the right race. I'm disregarded on sight by everyone.

This is just sad.

Np. It’s vital reading for Incels/FAs as they’re prone to committing the “Sodini Error”, i.e. the belief that a relationship with a woman will solve all your problems. You don’t really hear about the George Sodini anymore but he was basically one of the first known cases of an Incel/FA type of dude, before Elliot Rodgers popularised the term.

But yea, since barely anyone knows who the fuk George Sodini is anymore we should start calling the problem the “BBMG error”, at least on the misc.

Curious, if you could change one of those three which would it be?

If you say race, you have bigger problems.

BBMG doesnt believe women solve all of your problems

BBMG believes that being an incel and never having relationships with women with in itself make you miserable because it is a human need and nothing else in life can satisfy that need. the same way having no friends would make most people miserable because that is also a need.

You’re getting too hung up on exact wording.

“never having relationships with women with in itself make you miserable because it is a human need and nothing else in life can satisfy that need”, that, right there, encapsulates the Sodini Error.

You’re getting too hung up on exact wording.

“never having relationships with women with in itself make you miserable because it is a human need and nothing else in life can satisfy that need”, that, right there, encapsulates the Sodini Error.

Categorizing BBMG's thought process as the "Sodini Error" is accurate (and kinda hilarious), but also highlights that inceldom on its own doesn't create violence. BBMG is never going to pull a Sodini. Something else was off in a big way with that guy, as there is with most violent incels.

If the Sodini error is believing that you need success with women to be happy, its not an error. Thats a fact. Most men will not be happy living that incel life.

why yall trying to say thats not true

That is very different, its not mere wording its an entirely different scenario.

'A woman will fix all your problems' - is false and thats an error some guys make

'Being alone forever will make you miserable' - fact( for the vast majority of men) and that is not an error

Again, you’re being pedantic. The Sodini Error is basically the BELIEF that a RELATIONSHIP with a WOMAN is the only way to be happy, not be miserable, live a fulfilling life, etc. Try not to get too hung up on exact wording and look at the essence of the thing.

“A relationship with a woman will fix all your problems” is not some exact definition of the Sodini Error.

Categorizing BBMG's thought process as the "Sodini Error" is accurate (and kinda hilarious), but also highlights that inceldom on its own doesn't create violence. BBMG is never going to pull a Sodini. Something else was off in a big way with that guy, as there is with most violent incels.

Quoted because this is an excellent post. Read this ya'll.



Excellent contribution

It's really sad how desperately you want to bring everyone down to your level.

I've spoken to you before. You dominate conversations and just talk about your interests.

The other time you got angry in video chat because no one was talking but you couldn't come up with a subject of your own.

Your problem goes far beyond your looks and you refuse to admit it.



This is kind of the spot I'm in right now. Got some solid interest this year and the validation was enough for me to go back to being single.

'Being alone forever will make you miserable' - fact( for the vast majority of men) and that is not an error

Content of the message aside, you have a really good voice for radio. Have you ever thought of doing a podcast or something?



I haven't read through the whole thread but are people arguing that being alone forever won't make you miserable?

lol thanks, never heard that before but if I get more of that I'll consider

And yes, people are calling that the 'Sodini Error' and claiming that you can be happy alone. which is bullchit

I'm sure that some people can be happy alone but the vast majority of us need more.

its pretty obvious but anything I say, no matter how common sense it is, is argued against.

No one is saying you wouldn't, in general, be happier in a fulfilling relationship. Studies clearly show this.

Question is, can you come to terms with your situation and learn how to at least be content and not miserable on your own? And the answer is yes. Check my last post.

The answer is still no. Very few men can be content as a lonely virgin or single their entire lives. Period. Its ok to admit it. We dont have to pretend like everyone can be a monk or whatever. We need women to be happy. Its ok to say and admit.