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post 1668240183 09-21-2022, 01:13 PM
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Unfortunately for women there is a time cap. They can try freezing eggs, doing IV, and a bunch of other expensive/risky procedures. But if that doesn't work out they are kind of ****ed. Another brutal reality is higher tier men don't give a **** about women's careers/income/possessions. The dudes that do value those things will always be her second choice.


If I had a daughter I'd tell her to focus on finding a decent dude who's not too heavy a drinker and who doesn't use drugs. Who is motivated/hard working before she turns 25. So she has time to date/be sure before she gets married and then pregnant. And if she can't find someone in her age bracket by 25 she needs to scale to dudes that are 28-36 and are already successful/established and are ready to settle down and get married/have kids.


I'd also be brutally honest that maintaining her skin, physique and being able to cook are really the most important factors for the majority of high performing men. Those are literally the most important qualities a woman can have assuming a man wants marriage/kids/ a family.
post 1668240923 09-21-2022, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
but you ignored the point, as miserable as they are its still their best option because they don't want to settle for men they aren't attracted to and most of them can't lock down the chads they want.

So why would they tell younger to do otherwise? These women don't want the men available to them they prefer to be alone
That was literally the whole point. There is nothing for them to do. You get one shot at life and they messed it up even with the most basic of tasks (get a worthwhile man committed to you and get knocked up) . The only thing salvageable from their car crash of a life is to improve other people's lives.

I'm not sure how you missed that unless English isn't your first language.
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Originally Posted By Ten_Hearts
Yup I'm in the don't want kids camp.
You're not the only one. I know a number of men and women who opted out of having kids (without declaring fertility issues, I put those separately as "cannot have kids" rather than "chose not to have kids", but I'm sure there's overlap due to social stigma).

It's strange that guys on this forum who are single, in their 30s and without kids, are writing essays about how unhappy the women who would never ever touch them must be, for being in their 30s without kids.

It's a strange sort of embitterment disorder cope, but a funny one to read anyway lol.
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The part women don't understand, is waiting until their eggs are 40+ years old, is a dangerous thing to do. Weak kids, retardation and downs are all risks.

For a man, he can have kids at 40 or even 50+, as long as he finds a younger woman to share offspring with. Personally, I didn't start having kids until turning 40, while my wife is 8 years younger so the kids are extremely healthy so far. Sure, I'll be Grandpa dad when they're Graduating highschool, but brb not worried about financially providing for them, no young angst to take out on them, and still have a relatively young wife to climb all over me.

Choose wisely, Young Padawans.

I know of two couples who are all pushing 40, and do not own a house or townhouse yet. They don't want to raise kids in an apartment or rental, so they keep putting off breeding. To be fair, the men in those relationships spend their money on selfish things like cars, clothes and multiple vacations per year. I suffered without all of those things throughout my 20's and early 30's, but have something to show for it now. Nice house, cars and a thin wife. Another couple has their house and everything in order, but the woman is 39 and is having trouble getting pregnant. Fun for the guy for awhile, but depressing when nothing sticks.
post 1668242053 09-21-2022, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T
That was literally the whole point. There is nothing for them to do. You get one shot at life and they messed it up even with the most basic of tasks (get a worthwhile man committed to you and get knocked up) . The only thing salvageable from their car crash of a life is to improve other people's lives.

I'm not sure how you missed that unless English isn't your first language.
because they didnt mess up, its literally impossible for all women to get the same top men to commit to them. no matter what, a lot are going to fail at that unless we make polygamy mainstream.

So all the ones that miss out still played their hand as best they can. Just not everyone can win. thats not messing up
post 1668242293 09-21-2022, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By PrisonWallet
The part women don't understand, is waiting until their eggs are 40+ years old, is a dangerous thing to do. Weak kids, retardation and downs are all risks.

For a man, he can have kids at 40 or even 50+, as long as he finds a younger woman to share offspring with. Personally, I didn't start having kids until turning 40, while my wife is 8 years younger so the kids are extremely healthy so far. Sure, I'll be Grandpa dad when they're Graduating highschool, but brb not worried about financially providing for them, no young angst to take out on them, and still have a relatively young wife to climb all over me.

Choose wisely, Young Padawans.

I know of two couples who are all pushing 40, and do not own a house or townhouse yet. They don't want to raise kids in an apartment or rental, so they keep putting off breeding. To be fair, the men in those relationships spend their money on selfish things like cars, clothes and multiple vacations per year. I suffered without all of those things throughout my 20's and early 30's, but have something to show for it now. Nice house, cars and a thin wife. Another couple has their house and everything in order, but the woman is 39 and is having trouble getting pregnant. Fun for the guy for awhile, but depressing when nothing sticks.
cope. old man sperm is also more prone to cause problems
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
because they didnt mess up, its literally impossible for all women to get the same top men to commit to them. no matter what, a lot are going to fail at that unless we make polygamy mainstream.

So all the ones that miss out still played their hand as best they can. Just not everyone can win. thats not messing up
Nobody told them they have to settle for what they can get or be alone forever with no family of their own. It's pretty simple. I think smart women who are approaching 30 stop looking and just go with what they have in front of them. When the music stops sit the hell down and be happy you have a seat.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
cope. old man sperm is also more prone to cause problems
Not even in the same ballpark. Fertility gets a huge hit by 35, for men its downhill yes but at a much slower pace. At the end of the day the sperm has to reach the egg, and for it to be able to do that it needs to be a strong swift swimmer. Sperm count and quality may drop with the years but that can easily be treated.
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post 1668242623 09-21-2022, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By redmelly
Nobody told them they have to settle for what they can get or be alone forever with no family of their own. It's pretty simple. I think smart women who are approaching 30 stop looking and just go with what they have in front of them. When the music stops sit the hell down and be happy you have a seat.
thats what the beta women do, alphas stay alone and dont settle for timmy they arent attracted to
post 1668243193 09-21-2022, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
thats what the beta women do, alphas stay alone and dont settle for timmy they arent attracted to
Why would a woman want to be alpha?
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Originally Posted By FA*******
I'd say there's a small percentage of women that really don't want to be mothers. Like maybe 5% tops.

But if they're talking about being happy while child-free, and they have a toy dog or 5 cats that they baby, that's a fukking joke. BRB get the Narcan, cause we have a copium overdose. They WANT that toy dog to be their child, they just either can't afford it or can't find a Chad willing to marry them.
It’s always funny seeing the cat mom or dog mom stickers on the back of fat old chicks cars.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
thats what the beta women do, alphas stay alone and dont settle for timmy they arent attracted to
You have BLM in your sig, part of BLMs agenda is to have society crumble and destroying the nuclear family is one way of achieving this.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
Why would a woman want to be alpha?
Because alphas run the world and win in life. Same as men.

No woman with any self-worth would settle desperately with someone she's not attracted to. Thats for losers
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers
You have BLM in your sig, part of BLMs agenda is to have society crumble and destroying the nuclear family is one way of achieving this.
I believe that BLM, I do not care about the organization called BLM
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I know someone who married a wealthy (family money), successful man both in their 20's, had two really cute kids. She had it all, stayed home to raise them while he pulled in 7 figures. She decided a couple of years after having the kids she didn't want to be with him anymore. She somehow got a big divorce settlement, alimony, and shared custody.

She bought herself a house in the same neighborhood for about 750k, and with all her free time while he has the kids she is traveling alone in her brand new Toyota 4 Runner. Late 30's now, she vlogs on youtube.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Because alphas run the world and win in life. Same as men.

No woman with any self-worth would settle desperately with someone she's not attracted to. Thats for losers
What's the definition of "winning in life"?
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
any source on this? i'm 35, wasn't aware my ability to make healthy kids is diminished. thought it never changed. i'm an extremely healthy dude in great shape
I think swimmer count starts decreasing but you don't need that many. You aren't looking to populate a town.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
What's the definition of "winning in life"?
That is a good question. In a sense objective (list theory) but also subjective (can you win if you suffer from body dysmorphia?)

The folks here saying a middle aged women can't be happy if she doesn't have kids are coping unless they say the same for men. But you can see ITT "men can have kids later" which is biologically true but a 45 year old guy marrying a 25 isn't ideal either.

Also the cope from folks claiming there is no one "worth it" in their age group (except themselves - I mean consider the ego here lol) so they'll bang younguns forever more.

Either case above hasn't won at life. But these threads exist for a reason: the angst of folks who need to vent after their day to day lives hammer the above point in over and over, and not even cope can save them from despair.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
What's the definition of "winning in life"?
getting what you want
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Originally Posted By PrisonWallet
The part women don't understand, is waiting until their eggs are 40+ years old, is a dangerous thing to do. Weak kids, retardation and downs are all risks.

For a man, he can have kids at 40 or even 50+, as long as he finds a younger woman to share offspring with. Personally, I didn't start having kids until turning 40, while my wife is 8 years younger so the kids are extremely healthy so far. Sure, I'll be Grandpa dad when they're Graduating highschool, but brb not worried about financially providing for them, no young angst to take out on them, and still have a relatively young wife to climb all over me.

Choose wisely, Young Padawans.

I know of two couples who are all pushing 40, and do not own a house or townhouse yet. They don't want to raise kids in an apartment or rental, so they keep putting off breeding. To be fair, the men in those relationships spend their money on selfish things like cars, clothes and multiple vacations per year. I suffered without all of those things throughout my 20's and early 30's, but have something to show for it now. Nice house, cars and a thin wife. Another couple has their house and everything in order, but the woman is 39 and is having trouble getting pregnant. Fun for the guy for awhile, but depressing when nothing sticks.
Same wife is 5 years younger. Had first at 33 and second at 35. Worked out well.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
because they didnt mess up, its literally impossible for all women to get the same top men to commit to them. no matter what, a lot are going to fail at that unless we make polygamy mainstream.

So all the ones that miss out still played their hand as best they can. Just not everyone can win. thats not messing up
Ending a 350million year long bloodline in exchange for wine and a few nights with chad is failing. Ending up surrounded by cats is failing.
Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
That is a good question. In a sense objective (list theory) but also subjective (can you win if you suffer from body dysmorphia?)

The folks here saying a middle aged women can't be happy if she doesn't have kids are coping unless they say the same for men. But you can see ITT "men can have kids later" which is biologically true but a 45 year old guy marrying a 25 isn't ideal either.

Also the cope from folks claiming there is no one "worth it" in their age group (except themselves - I mean consider the ego here lol) so they'll bang younguns forever more.
Childless men are also losers. It completely destroys women when they don't have children though.
Either case above hasn't won at life. But these threads exist for a reason: the angst of folks who need to vent after their day to day lives hammer the above point in over and over, and not even cope can save them from despair.
Or we actually care about society and people in general and are trying to reduce the number of women who fall victim to this trap
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
thats what the beta women do, alphas stay alone and dont settle for timmy they arent attracted to
are you a woman? sure sounds like it.

there are no alpha women. that is just false. women are of one mind. there are some women who are louder, more bossy, or think they are more wise than others, but that is no alpha.
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T
Ending a 350million year long bloodline in exchange for wine and a few nights with chad is failing. Ending up surrounded by cats is failing.
Yes the failed to lock down Chad but that doesn't mean they should settle for some unattractive beta. If you don't lock down Chad, the best option is rotting
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Originally Posted By BigGameJames
are you a woman? sure sounds like it.

there are no alpha women. that is just false. women are of one mind. there are some women who are louder, more bossy, or think they are more wise than others, but that is no alpha.
banging Chad and using betas for money is the female version of alpha
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Originally Posted By suave2000
To be perfectly fair, who are you to judge tho?

Everyone is equally lost and confused in this unnatural and confusing society. Loneliness and alienation are not just exclusive to women, individuals in general are quite unhappy and lost because modern society is built in an unnatural and retarded way. You should view them as victims of a chit game dealt to them.

You never get to pick the cards you're dealth with.
Everyone is definitely not equally lost..
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I never wanted kids. My wife does though.

We just found out she's like 6 weeks along and it's actually very exciting.

There nothing wrong with not having kids, but think about the reasons why you don't want them. If it's because you just want to keep partying and "be free", I think you're gonna be miserable as you get older. If you don't want them because you believe you'd be a bad parent, then I respect that
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yeah I don’t want them because I don’t like being around kids and I don’t like responsibilities and chores. I’m too selfish to be a mom and I would hate the day to day work of taking care of them.
Same here and I don't have any family here and I'm semi-retarded and would feel bad for the poor child that would have me as a mom.
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