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post 1668251003 09-21-2022, 04:40 PM
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Two benefits I have noticed without placebo going carnivore [srs]

Before was doing low/medium fat + medium carb + high protein (90% whole foods with occasional junk, protein mostly meat no vegan bull****)

1. When I would wake up I would feel so stiff but that stiffness was very significant and uncomfortable. Not sure if it would count as arthritis, and it definitely was not debilitating, but something I was worried about being only 25. Gone in 3-5 days after starting carnivore.

2. When I would fap at 12-1PM WFH I would be lazy and get that post cum nihilism. Now, after a cum shot I just feel relieved but can still remain focused and continue with tasks.

Too early to tell for other benefits + I have read about those benefits so placebo risk but for the above the difference is so noticeable that it can't be.
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This is prolly a consequence of you being in mild ketosis
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How many gains have you lost?
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Originally Posted By gorex⏩
This is prolly a consequence of you being in mild ketosis
well carnivore, apart from extreme protein:fat raiots, is by definition ketosis
Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
How many gains have you lost?
zero

but I am not as advanced as you in any way shape or form
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
zero

but I am not as advanced as you in any way shape or form
Have you maintained the same bodyweight since starting?
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Have you maintained the same bodyweight since starting?
no but that is because I have lost water weight which is not fat or muscle

but I do look more cut because of no water retention as you basically eat no carbs
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Been carnivore for 8 years, effortless for maintaining low body fat and gaining muscle.
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
Been carnivore for 8 years, effortless for maintaining low body fat and gaining muscle.
U do eggs tho?

How about salad? No greens or berries at all? No carb refeeds?
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Would do carnivore, but peen not working without carbs, and strength goes down. And can’t sleep.
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
U do eggs tho?

How about salad? No greens or berries at all? No carb refeeds?
No mate no eggs at all or anything else, only untrimmed ribeye steaks and 25% fat mince
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Would do carnivore, but peen not working without carbs, and strength goes down. And can’t sleep.
Increase fat+salt and take electrolyte sachets like LMNT during the adaption phase. Also increase calories, it’s a lot easier to eat more fatty mince then it is to eat a tough steak. Stick to ribeyes if u eat steaks and u can buy fat trimmings very cheap and add them to your meal to increase the fat
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
No mate no eggs at all or anything else, only untrimmed ribeye steaks and 25% fat mince
No eggs? Why come?
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
Increase fat+salt and take electrolyte sachets like LMNT during the adaption phase. Also increase calories, it’s a lot easier to eat more fatty mince then it is to eat a tough steak. Stick to ribeyes if u eat steaks and u can buy fat trimmings very cheap and add them to your meal to increase the fat
How long adaptation?

I did all that, but i guess I gotta do more, and for longer time period.
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I do active cardio in the AM (very early, between 5:30am, and 10:00am)

I used to bonk, or get hungry during my bike rides and needed to bring snacks with me (clif bars, small snacks)

Recently I've been doing "AM keto" which basically means: I only have black coffee, and some mixed nuts in the morning before my bike rides

I NEVER need to bring food anymore, and only bonk if I'm about 3 hours into my rides now

This has been pretty mind blowing because my overall performance has improved slightly (faster average speed, more power during sprints, etc) and I feel WAY better after I'm done riding... I don't feel like I'm starving to death, and I can just relax when I get home.

It took a very long time to adapt to this because I was always an oatmeal person pre-cardio, or sometimes yogurt/fruit... So to just have some mixed nuts was pretty awful at first.

Now that I see the performance benefit, I naturally keep going this way.

Today I only did a 25 mile ride, but I ate NOTHING before, and never really felt "bonked" during the ride today (about 1hr40min of cycling)

Last Sunday I ate nothing when I woke up, I rode 65 miles (4 hours of riding) and only needed to stop for a small snack after 3 hours.

After I do cardio, or sometimes during my cardio, I'll start eating carbs for the day, and it's no problem.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I do active cardio in the AM (very early, between 5:30am, and 10:00am)

I used to bonk, or get hungry during my bike rides and needed to bring snacks with me (clif bars, small snacks)

Recently I've been doing "AM keto" which basically means: I only have black coffee, and some mixed nuts in the morning before my bike rides

I NEVER need to bring food anymore, and only bonk if I'm about 3 hours into my rides now

This has been pretty mind blowing because my overall performance has improved slightly (faster average speed, more power during sprints, etc) and I feel WAY better after I'm done riding... I don't feel like I'm starving to death, and I can just relax when I get home.

It took a very long time to adapt to this because I was always an oatmeal person pre-cardio, or sometimes yogurt/fruit... So to just have some mixed nuts was pretty awful at first.

Now that I see the performance benefit, I naturally keep going this way.

Today I only did a 25 mile ride, but I ate NOTHING before, and never really felt "bonked" during the ride today (about 1hr40min of cycling)

Last Sunday I ate nothing when I woke up, I rode 65 miles (4 hours of riding) and only needed to stop for a small snack after 3 hours.

After I do cardio, or sometimes during my cardio, I'll start eating carbs for the day, and it's no problem.
why do all that cycling unless you are getting paid for it
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
No mate no eggs at all or anything else, only untrimmed ribeye steaks and 25% fat mince
How are your lipids? Not worried about the elevated ldl?
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just lol @ gimmick clown diets
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
why do all that cycling unless you are getting paid for it
Why breath? Unless you are getting paid for it.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
1. When I would wake up I would feel so stiff but that stiffness was very significant and uncomfortable. Not sure if it would count as arthritis, and it definitely was not debilitating, but something I was worried about being only 25.Gone in 3-5 days after starting carnivore.
Very cool to see inflamation go away from diet change, it will increase your lifespan, srs
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I do active cardio in the AM (very early, between 5:30am, and 10:00am)
I used to bonk, or get hungry during my bike rides and needed to bring snacks with me (clif bars, small snacks)
Recently I've been doing "AM keto" which basically means: I only have black coffee, and some mixed nuts in the morning before my bike rides
I NEVER need to bring food anymore, and only bonk if I'm about 3 hours into my rides now
This has been pretty mind blowing because my overall performance has improved slightly (faster average speed, more power during sprints, etc) and I feel WAY better after I'm done riding... I don't feel like I'm starving to death, and I can just relax when I get home.
It took a very long time to adapt to this because I was always an oatmeal person pre-cardio, or sometimes yogurt/fruit... So to just have some mixed nuts was pretty awful at first.
Now that I see the performance benefit, I naturally keep going this way.
Today I only did a 25 mile ride, but I ate NOTHING before, and never really felt "bonked" during the ride today (about 1hr40min of cycling)
Last Sunday I ate nothing when I woke up, I rode 65 miles (4 hours of riding) and only needed to stop for a small snack after 3 hours.
After I do cardio, or sometimes during my cardio, I'll start eating carbs for the day, and it's no problem.
Dat insuline response + auto****gy

Nice fawkin work bruh
Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
why do all that cycling unless you are getting paid for it
Lazy ph@ggot detected
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I do active cardio in the AM (very early, between 5:30am, and 10:00am)

I used to bonk, or get hungry during my bike rides and needed to bring snacks with me (clif bars, small snacks)

Recently I've been doing "AM keto" which basically means: I only have black coffee, and some mixed nuts in the morning before my bike rides

I NEVER need to bring food anymore, and only bonk if I'm about 3 hours into my rides now

This has been pretty mind blowing because my overall performance has improved slightly (faster average speed, more power during sprints, etc) and I feel WAY better after I'm done riding... I don't feel like I'm starving to death, and I can just relax when I get home.

It took a very long time to adapt to this because I was always an oatmeal person pre-cardio, or sometimes yogurt/fruit... So to just have some mixed nuts was pretty awful at first.

Now that I see the performance benefit, I naturally keep going this way.

Today I only did a 25 mile ride, but I ate NOTHING before, and never really felt "bonked" during the ride today (about 1hr40min of cycling)

Last Sunday I ate nothing when I woke up, I rode 65 miles (4 hours of riding) and only needed to stop for a small snack after 3 hours.

After I do cardio, or sometimes during my cardio, I'll start eating carbs for the day, and it's no problem.
I do pretty much the same as you. I run around 40 mi / wk and run fasted if I get a chance to do a morning run. It always feels good. I just have coffee in my system so I can chit and my runs always go generally well.

Can't imagine doing a keto diet. I will always bonk if thats the case. If I have to run in the evening, I make sure to eat at like 3-4pm and not eat until my run at around sunset.

Pretty much just eat whole foods at around 3000-3500 cals / day.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Low-IQ Dumb ph@ggot detected. Try reading actual studies instead of getting your info from youtube hacks. Ldl is at this posited to be causal for CVD, and it responds primarily to diet, not exercise (unlike hdl and triglycerides). And the main triggers for high ldl are trans and sat fats.

Science denying carnitards like you are equivalent to the fat acceptance retards.
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TL;DR

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> OP can't get stiff in the morning anymore because he's swallowing meat on the regular
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Originally Posted By JeffPesos⏩
Can't imagine doing a keto diet. I will always bonk if thats the case. If I have to run in the evening, I make sure to eat at like 3-4pm and not eat until my run at around sunset.
I don't do FULL keto, just AM keto. So basically I don't do carbs until I'm done with my cardio (or nearly done with my ride). My theory is that the carb-fasted state is overall better for long-duration cardio in the morning.

If I wake up and have an apple/yogurt, I will be bonking within 2 hours easily.
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Everytime I try keto I stop because its too expensive.
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Originally Posted By CoolKnees⏩
Everytime I try keto I stop because its too expensive.
try AM keto.

nuts/avocado/eggs in the AM.... start carbs at noon.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I don't do FULL keto, just AM keto. So basically I don't do carbs until I'm done with my cardio (or nearly done with my ride). My theory is that the carb-fasted state is overall better for long-duration cardio in the morning.
If I wake up and have an apple/yogurt, I will be bonking within 2 hours easily.
So you're carb cycling pretty much.

Have you tried carbing up the night before? Then fasted cardio in AM?

That seems to give me the most endurance and I do agree eating carbs or anything for that matter before cardio lowers my endurance.

Before lifting however I get at least some protein in pre-workout then binge like a mofo after lifting
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I don't do FULL keto, just AM keto. So basically I don't do carbs until I'm done with my cardio (or nearly done with my ride). My theory is that the carb-fasted state is overall better for long-duration cardio in the morning.

If I wake up and have an apple/yogurt, I will be bonking within 2 hours easily.
Yep. Same. Completely agreed on the carb-fasted theory
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
try AM keto.

nuts/avocado/eggs in the AM.... start carbs at noon.
I don't eat breakfast anyway.
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
lol @ you with no avi or credibility and getting butthurt

Why don't you post all of the valuable information you're talking about
Sorry brah, I deleted that msg. It was sent to you by accident, thought you were responding to me with your previous msg about being a lazy ph@ggot.
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
So you're carb cycling pretty much.

Have you tried carbing up the night before? Then fasted cardio in AM?
Yeah IDGAF about how many carbs I eat at the end of the day. lunch/dinner always has excess carbs.

It's my first "meal" where I intentionally avoid carbs.

This has been a couple months now of experimenting with it, and I'm pleased with the results.

Some rides that would previously have been a significant undertaking for me (like the 65 mile ride I did on Sunday riding single speed) feel casual now. Kind of insane.

EDIT: my hydration seems to be positively effected by this, as well.??? who tf knows.
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