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post 1668245583 09-21-2022, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
lol thanks, never heard that before but if I get more of that I'll consider

And yes, people are calling that the 'Sodini Error' and claiming that you can be happy alone. which is bullchit
There’s a world of difference between living a life without female companionship, and being TOTALLY alone in life, i.e. no friends, no family, no woman, no relationships of any kind with any human being…

The Sodini Error concerns the former. The latter is a far more troubling issue.
post 1668246383 09-21-2022, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
The answer is still no. Very few men can be content as a lonely virgin or single their entire lives. Period. Its ok to admit it. We dont have to pretend like everyone can be a monk or whatever. We need women to be happy. Its ok to say and admit.
You missed the point entirely that I made, and your angry vocaroo rant proved what I said even more.

Nowhere in my comment did I say you have to be happy as a lonely single ******* for the rest of your life. What I clearly said was that if you cannot be single and have a baseline of contentment where not having a female is not a net negative (i.e being angry not having a female), then the idea of getting a female will solve all your problems and make you happy is a fukking fairytale.

Take me for example. I haven't had a gf in 6 years. Not talking fwb or anything like that, haven't had a genuine gf where I take her to holidays to meet the fam type of girl. I personally want to get married and have children, and I would like a relationship. BUT me not having a girl right now has zero negative affects on my happiness. It doesn't make me angry or bitter. I don't value a woman as my one missing source of happiness that will change everything. She would just be added value to my life and a net positive in a lot of areas. Not having her doesn't take away from me though because I have a foundation of values/morals/principles and acceptance of who I am as a man AND I stand by it.

All of your comments I have seen over the past several threads like this come down to the same exact things.

-You blame your height/race on not getting women
-We give examples of how that is not true and you always make excuses no matter what. We just don't get it apparently
-You are angry for not having a female and it's clear that you are basing your value and happiness on needing a woman
-That above statement makes you bitter and angry and you need excuses as to why you can't have them
-You become a never ending cycle of bitterness which is a net negative on your life, and yet have spent zero time accepting who you are because you are too busy being angry about it being the reason why.

No one here is saying accept being single forever and be happy about it. That's your own mind deflecting the reality of you not being okay with being single for as long as it takes to find a woman for yourself. You have some deep rooted issues you need to fix mentally about yourself. You'll say all these accomplishments you have but then say your race and height make you undateable. Absolute nonsense and everybody here knows it. Keep feeding yourself that bullchit though and you'll always be angry, bitter and alone. No woman wants to be with a man that fragile, bitter and obsessive.
post 1668246983 09-21-2022, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
No woman wants to be with a man that fragile, bitter and obsessive.
This is touched upon in the article I posted previously.
Originally Posted By GameForOmegas
Because you know what lots of people don’t have sex and don’t have relationships, for whatever reasons. Such a person can either give up and go to crap, or maintain themselves. Roissy calls celibacy a living death; but if you approach a woman with the attitude “I need you to save me from a living death” I’m pretty sure she will sense it and not like it.

TRA puts it in terms of sex but I think the problem for most guys is other kinds of neediness- for comfort, validation, status, or what have you.

But if you take good care of yourself, and you’re making the most of life on the terms as it is presented to you, and you enjoy yourself and are happy some of the time, women that you meet will be much more interested in being around you and providing with additional enjoyment. Please note I’m being realistic here. You may have been dealt a poor hand, and you aren’t going to have the same opportunities as someone who was more fortunate. All you can do is the best you can, or try to, so do that and don’t worry.
post 1668247383 09-21-2022, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
You won't be a lonely virgin your whole life, you will at least get laid a few more times. Probability is on your side if it's already happened. Just enjoy the other things in life in between, and stop being miserable. Might be tough, but it's the best you can do.
getting a laid a few more times? Im 31. If thats the best it can be that isnt enough when I could end up living to 70. Men are not meant to live like that. we all know it. If thats the status quo for a lot of men going forward expect ropes and mass violence. just reality
post 1668247463 09-21-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
There’s a world of difference between living a life without female companionship, and being TOTALLY alone in life, i.e. no friends, no family, no woman, no relationships of any kind with any human being…

The Sodini Error concerns the former. The latter is a far more troubling issue.
I'm talking about female companionship specifically. You can have friends and extended family etc but if you lack actual intimate romantic connection for too much of your life, you will not be happy, because it is a key part of being fulfilled for men.
post 1668247643 09-21-2022, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
You missed the point entirely that I made, and your angry vocaroo rant proved what I said even more.

Nowhere in my comment did I say you have to be happy as a lonely single ******* for the rest of your life. What I clearly said was that if you cannot be single and have a baseline of contentment where not having a female is not a net negative (i.e being angry not having a female),then the idea of getting a female will solve all your problems and make you happy is a fukking fairytale.
Stopped at bold, because I never even said that nor do I believe that. You're creating a bullchit strawman.

I literally said the exact opposite multiple times.

None of you understand basic logic, but the concept is 'necessary, but not sufficient.'

I do not believe women are sufficient to make a man happy

But they are one of the necessary conditions to be happy in life.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
getting a laid a few more times? Im 31. If thats the best it can be that isnt enough when I could end up living to 70. Men are not meant to live like that. we all know it. If thats the status quo for a lot of men going forward expect ropes and mass violence. just reality
As painful as it may be, maybe adopt the stance that there is not going to be a woman anywhere in your future, and really think about what else you could do with your life.

Like, imagine your legs got blown off. One way to go would be to constantly torment yourself over how awful and miserable the rest of your life will be without the use of your legs, or you could accept that your legs are gone, and turn your attention towards positive chit that is still achievable/doable for you, despite your lack of legs.
post 1668248693 09-21-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Stopped at bold, because I never even said that nor do I believe that. You're creating a bullchit strawman.

I literally said the exact opposite multiple times.

None of you understand basic logic, but the concept is 'necessary, but not sufficient.'

I do not believe women are sufficient to make a man happy

But they are one of the necessary conditions to be happy in life.
No. I know (and have taught) the distinction between necessary vs sufficient conditions, and what you're suggesting isn't true. As others have said, you need relationships and human interaction in general to have happiness.

You can find a way to be content without a wife or regular romantic relationships if you need to.
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
As painful as it may be, maybe adopt the stance that there is not going to be a woman anywhere in your future, and really think about what else you could do with your life.

Like, imagine your legs got blown off. One way to go would be to constantly torment yourself over how awful and miserable the rest of your life will be without the use of your legs, or you could accept that your legs are gone, and turn your attention towards positive chit that is still achievable/doable for you, despite your lack of legs.
There's a mental block where he can't even seem to compute the first paragraph.
post 1668250153 09-21-2022, 04:19 PM
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I started talking to an ai.

Problem solved.
post 1668250373 09-21-2022, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
dude no. Too short, and ugly, and not the right race. I'm disregarded on sight by everyone.
Don't Black dudes have an easier time with girls than Asian dudes? I'm Asian and I slay.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
getting a laid a few more times? Im 31. If thats the best it can be that isnt enough when I could end up living to 70. Men are not meant to live like that. we all know it. If thats the status quo for a lot of men going forward expect ropes and mass violence. just reality
Bro get a mail in bride from Nigeria. Mail-in-brides were literally made for ugly manlets like u. Why not take advantage of it?
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
As painful as it may be, maybe adopt the stance that there is not going to be a woman anywhere in your future, and really think about what else you could do with your life.

Like, imagine your legs got blown off. One way to go would be to constantly torment yourself over how awful and miserable the rest of your life will be without the use of your legs, or you could accept that your legs are gone, and turn your attention towards positive chit that is still achievable/doable for you, despite your lack of legs.
I have already taken the stance of dying alone, and I've concluded no amount of mental gymnastics will change how much it sucks
post 1668251753 09-21-2022, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By sapdori
Don't Black dudes have an easier time with girls than Asian dudes? I'm Asian and I slay.
no , that is a stupid myth from black cawk obsessed miscers
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
There's a mental block where he can't even seem to compute the first paragraph.
Because its bullchit
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Originally Posted By miscallday12
Bro get a mail in bride from Nigeria. Mail-in-brides were literally made for ugly manlets like u. Why not take advantage of it?
not how it works with Nigerians. With Nigerians its just a legitimate business transaction where they will pay you for a green card marriage but its very risky and not worth it you can really get screwed and won't get any sex or love for your trouble
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
not how it works with Nigerians. With Nigerians its just a legitimate business transaction where they will pay you for a green card marriage but its very risky and not worth it you can really get screwed and won't get any sex or love for your trouble
What do you have to lose? Your already a bitter loser who hates himself anyways, might as well give it a try
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Because its bullchit
Because you choose to believe it is.
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crazy how people argue bbm. Only thing he's doing wrong is not getting a sugar baby. Dude is lonely, short, and black. Of course his life sucks ass lmao. Everyone in the same situation would be pissed.
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Originally Posted By miscallday12
What do you have to lose? Your already a bitter loser who hates himself anyways, might as well give it a try
really? Miscallday but dont know whats to potentially lose in a divorce or just outright get busted for a fake marriage. ok
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Because you choose to believe it is.
Observable reality says it is
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Originally Posted By imbored21
crazy how people argue bbm. Only thing he's doing wrong is not getting a sugar baby. Dude is lonely, short, and black. Of course his life sucks ass lmao. Everyone in the same situation would be pissed.
They know it, they just like arguing me
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
They know it, they just like arguing me
Wrong. How many people were arguing with Maury the 40yo virgin in his thread?

When someone adopts such a negative, defeatist, and destructive attitude towards life, you'll get pushback. Especially when you externalize all your incel problems and blame online dating, feminism, daytime television, and whatever else for your issues.

You then misread all the criticism as a rejection of the claim that female companionship and sex are important parts of life, which has never been said.
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Haven't read this whole thread but to answer the question, the only problem I have is not being able to get a woman, so yes, getting one will fix all my problems.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I really think it depends on the quality of the relationship. Been to 3 wedding this year and those guys are happy as fuk and their lady is their best friend and just changes everything for them

If we switched places, and they had to be alone for years on end instead of this loving situation, it would absolutely suck for them probably worse than it does even for me cause they aren't used to it
Half of them will end up divorced and she has thier kids and half his money.

And if you seek validation by being in a relationship, lol...just lol.
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Lol...the amount of "men" posting here who can't just f, but need a relationship to feel validation is hilarious.

If not totally depressing.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
When someone adopts such a negative, defeatist, and destructive attitude towards life, you'll get pushback. Especially when you externalize all your incel problems and blame online dating, feminism, daytime television, and whatever else for your issues.
Really? You know full well this is bullchit. I blame my inceldom on my height and face and race. You of all people should know that. And its the reality of it.
Originally Posted By Rebel012
You then misread all the criticism as a rejection of the claim that female companionship and sex are important parts of life, which has never been said.
In this very thread you see people downplaying the importance, saying just move on and you can be happy without it. Many of you dont acknowledge how crucial it is for human happiness and think its optional which it isnt for a happy life.
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Originally Posted By Hussar1
Half of them will end up divorced and she has thier kids and half his money.

And if you seek validation by being in a relationship, lol...just lol.
Thats like telling an unemployed person its ok to not have a job cause half those people will be laid off at some point.

Ok, but being broke your entire life isnt better.

I aint said nothing about validation, Im talking about actual life satisfaction
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
In this very thread you see people downplaying the importance, saying just move on and you can be happy without it. Many of you dont acknowledge how crucial it is for human happiness and think its optional which it isnt for a happy life.
I can see why you might think that, but we’re really not. The stuff we’re talking about is INCREDIBLY difficult and needs a lot of work and effort put into it. We’re not suggesting it’s a snap decision where you suddenly think “okay, from this point forward I’m gonna make peace with my situation with women” and everything is hunky dory.

You ever seen Forest Gump? That was basically the source of my “legs blown off” analogy. After Lieutenant Dan loses his legs he’s an absolute wreck upon returning home from the war; he’s miserable, suicidal and deeply resentful towards Forest for having saved his life, cos now he has to live the rest of his life as a cripple. He remains in this bitter state for a fukin’ long time too, because to the surprise of no one, having to go the rest of your life without legs is not an easy pill to swallow. Anyway, the beauty of the film is that it shows his steady transition out of his depressed state, as he discovers new ways to live and new purpose and meaning in life. Come the end of the film he’s a changed man, and is no longer tormented by his disability.

TL;DR: It’s a JOURNEY, that you have to WORK towards.
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
I can see why you might think that, but we’re really not. The stuff we’re talking about is INCREDIBLY difficult and needs a lot of work and effort put into it. We’re not suggesting it’s a snap decision where you suddenly think “okay, from this point forward I’m gonna make peace with my situation with women” and everything is hunky dory.

You ever seen Forest Gump? That was basically the source of my “legs blown off” analogy. After Lieutenant Dan loses his legs he’s an absolute wreck upon returning home from the war; he’s miserable, suicidal and deeply resentful towards Forest for having saved his life, cos now he has to live the rest of his life as a cripple. He remains in this bitter state for a fukin’ long time too, because to the surprise of no one, having to go the rest of your life without legs is not an easy pill to swallow. Anyway, the beauty of the film is that it shows his steady transition out of his depressed state, as he discovers new ways to live and new purpose and meaning in life. Come the end of the film he’s a changed man, and is no longer tormented by his disability.

TL;DR: It’s a JOURNEY, that you have to WORK towards.
I understand this basic concept, you can always make the most of any situation but theres still a baseline and objective quality of life to it that no amount of cope can account for
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