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post 1668294593 09-22-2022, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Sorry brah, I deleted that msg. It was sent to you by accident, thought you were responding to me with your previous msg about being a lazy ph@ggot.
All good man lol was jus playin around anyways <3
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yeah IDGAF about how many carbs I eat at the end of the day. lunch/dinner always has excess carbs.
It's my first "meal" where I intentionally avoid carbs.
This has been a couple months now of experimenting with it, and I'm pleased with the results.
Some rides that would previously have been a significant undertaking for me (like the 65 mile ride I did on Sunday riding single speed) feel casual now. Kind of insane.
EDIT: my hydration seems to be positively effected by this, as well.??? who tf knows.
Same exact situation with me, I can run on the treadmil maybe 25% longer at least until I start to get gassed. No side cramps either on an empty stomach.

There's absolutely something to this. You're probably staying hydrated from all the food, electrolytes, salt you're getting in the night before.

Makes sense to me that you don't need as much water because there's no food in your stomach so all the blood can go elsewhere and your glycogen stores are full from the night before eating allot.

Good chit
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post 1668294853 09-22-2022, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
No mate no eggs at all or anything else, only untrimmed ribeye steaks and 25% fat mince
how do you address all of the micronutrient deficiencies
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post 1668295503 09-22-2022, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
How are your lipids? Not worried about the elevated ldl?
Lipids are all good, LDL is high which is to be expected and is a good thing. High cholesterol plus a high CAC score = dangerous, my CAC score is 0. Most people on carnivore’s CAC score is 0.
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post 1668295553 09-22-2022, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
how do you address all of the micronutrient deficiencies
There isn’t a single micronutrient needed by the body that you can’t get in beef.
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post 1668295613 09-22-2022, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
No eggs? Why come?
I have a bad reaction to them. I would eat them if I could though
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post 1668295783 09-22-2022, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
There isn’t a single micronutrient needed by the body that you can’t get in beef.
that's patently untrue lmao

here's 2100kcals of ribeye



this mthrfkr has scurvy lol
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post 1668295873 09-22-2022, 01:17 PM
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post 1668296923 09-22-2022, 01:40 PM
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I tried keto for a few months which I guess is a little similar and it made me feel like chit 24/7, also made me weirdly sensitive to caffeine.

I had to quit caffeine and basically had constant heart palpitations no matter how many electrolytes I had, went back on carbs and felt so much better almost immediately. I guess it’s not for me.
post 1668297003 09-22-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By EternalTruths⏩
I tried keto for a few months which I guess is a little similar and it made me feel like chit 24/7, also made me weirdly sensitive to caffeine.

I had to quit caffeine and basically had constant heart palpitations no matter how many electrolytes I had, went back on carbs and felt so much better almost immediately. I guess it’s not for me.
Carbs are good
post 1668298113 09-22-2022, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
that's patently untrue lmao

here's 2100kcals of ribeye



this mthrfkr has scurvy lol
Slightly outdated info mate. When on a zero carb diet, the need for vitamin c is tiny, even 1mg (which is in muscle meat) is enough to stop scurvy. The reason people get scurvy is that vitamin c and glucose both compete for the same receptor, so when someone eats a high carb diet especially dried food (no water soluble vitamins in) with no source of vitamin c, they can get scurvy.
In terms of other micronutrients, yeah fatty beef contains absolutely everything you need. You could live off of it for the rest of your life and thrive, which is what Iam doing.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
that's patently untrue lmao

here's 2100kcals of ribeye



this mthrfkr has scurvy lol
I remember reading about all this and thinking what a load of ****e, I thought meat = protein and fruit and vegetables = vitamins. Was absolutely mind blown to learn the truth about it all. Some people do carnivore but they include fruit as well and thrive, like dr Paul Saladino. I just don’t react well to any form of sugar.
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post 1668298613 09-22-2022, 02:16 PM
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Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Ratfish




But who was fiber?
I don't know either lol
post 1668299293 09-22-2022, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
Lipids are all good, LDL is high which is to be expected and is a good thing. High cholesterol plus a high CAC score = dangerous, my CAC score is 0. Most people on carnivore’s CAC score is 0.
Glad you're well now brah, but high ldl is something to watch out for even when other markers and CAC are fine:

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/0...healthy-people
post 1668299373 09-22-2022, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
Slightly outdated info mate. When on a zero carb diet, the need for vitamin c is tiny, even 1mg (which is in muscle meat) is enough to stop scurvy. The reason people get scurvy is that vitamin c and glucose both compete for the same receptor, so when someone eats a high carb diet especially dried food (no water soluble vitamins in) with no source of vitamin c, they can get scurvy.
In terms of other micronutrients, yeah fatty beef contains absolutely everything you need. You could live off of it for the rest of your life and thrive, which is what Iam doing.
riiight

and fat soluble vitamins, manganese and calcium are also myths
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Ate beef salt and water for 2 months. Felt the same as I did on keto except I had explosive diarrhea after both meals a day.
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Originally Posted By HokieBrah⏩
Ate beef salt and water for 2 months. Felt the same as I did on keto except I had explosive diarrhea after both meals a day.
sounds like a fun 2 months
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
that's patently untrue lmao

here's 2100kcals of ribeye



this mthrfkr has scurvy lol
This gets tricky, because the recommended % is based on what? Who came up with those numbers? And for whom? This or that amount of Iron or Vitamin C is recommended for whom? In what context? Would two people with different diets need the same amount of vitamin C and would they process the vitamin in the same way? One person can have tons of other things competing with vitamin C for pathways in the body due to other tings they eat, while some other person might have totally different sensitivity to the vitamin etc.


Notice how some people go on those juice fasts and their cancer goes away on an MRI, while it’s totally ineffective for other people. Professor Seyfried swears everyone with cancer should be on Keto, and it works for some, but others find their tumors grow faster on Keto! This is because we are different people, sometimes with different dietary needs.

Aren’t escimos super healthy? They don’t eat no fruit or anything, just fish and sheit. Idk brah.
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I felt like keto & carnivore affected thyroid function, but never got tested to confirm. I know for sure it lowered my libido a ton and I had weaker erections even when taking viagra. Sometimes I wonder if some miscers just do not have sex at all. If you have an active sex life, carnivore/keto definitely can hurt it.
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
This gets tricky, because the recommended % is based on what? Who came up with those numbers? And for whom? This or that amount of Iron or Vitamin C is recommended for whom? In what context? Would two people with different diets need the same amount of vitamin C and would they process the vitamin in the same way? One person can have tons of other things competing with vitamin C for pathways in the body due to other tings they eat, while some other person might have totally different sensitivity to the vitamin etc.


Notice how some people go on those juice fasts and their cancer goes away on an MRI, while it’s totally ineffective for other people. Professor Seyfried swears everyone with cancer should be on Keto, and it works for some, but others find their tumors grow faster on Keto! This is because we are different people, sometimes with different dietary needs.

Aren’t escimos super healthy? They don’t eat no fruit or anything, just fish and sheit. Idk brah.
those are all valid points, but i'm not an inuit and i've never met one at a family reunion or otherwise

for sure there are differences in requirement and absorption but to say entire vitamins or minerals are not needed by some kinda mutant human is laughable

this all being said, if he has no symptoms of anything, he's probably more or less fine

the signs of deficiency would definitely be apparent after months, much less years
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I do active cardio in the AM (very early, between 5:30am, and 10:00am)

I used to bonk, or get hungry during my bike rides and needed to bring snacks with me (clif bars, small snacks)

Recently I've been doing "AM keto" which basically means: I only have black coffee, and some mixed nuts in the morning before my bike rides

I NEVER need to bring food anymore, and only bonk if I'm about 3 hours into my rides now

This has been pretty mind blowing because my overall performance has improved slightly (faster average speed, more power during sprints, etc) and I feel WAY better after I'm done riding... I don't feel like I'm starving to death, and I can just relax when I get home.

It took a very long time to adapt to this because I was always an oatmeal person pre-cardio, or sometimes yogurt/fruit... So to just have some mixed nuts was pretty awful at first.

Now that I see the performance benefit, I naturally keep going this way.

Today I only did a 25 mile ride, but I ate NOTHING before, and never really felt "bonked" during the ride today (about 1hr40min of cycling)

Last Sunday I ate nothing when I woke up, I rode 65 miles (4 hours of riding) and only needed to stop for a small snack after 3 hours.

After I do cardio, or sometimes during my cardio, I'll start eating carbs for the day, and it's no problem.
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
I remember reading about all this and thinking what a load of ****e, I thought meat = protein and fruit and vegetables = vitamins. Was absolutely mind blown to learn the truth about it all. Some people do carnivore but they include fruit as well and thrive, like dr Paul Saladino. I just don’t react well to any form of sugar.
Thoughts on Saladino saying that fruit and honey must be added?

Additionally, good sources on this lifestyle? I just do Shawn Baker, Saladino and Ken Berry. All are MDs.
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Not eating fruits and vegetables is retarded.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Thoughts on Saladino saying that fruit and honey must be added?

Additionally, good sources on this lifestyle? I just do Shawn Baker, Saladino and Ken Berry. All are MDs.
I'm a fan of Dr. Anthony Chaffee for carnivore
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